Post by: RocketMan on February 21, 2008, 07:14:27 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,331818,00.html
Mystery Plane Seemingly Bound for Iraq Lands in Florida
Thursday , February 21, 2008
Why did an airplane seemingly destined for Iraq somehow end up in Highlands County, Fla.?
Authorities aren't saying much, but the case of the mystery plane has gotten local residents talking, according to a report by MyFOXTampaBay.
The small plane, which made an emergency landing in a Florida field, featured Iraqi markings on its body, but most were covered up by paper, the TV station reports.
Capt. Randy Labelle of the Highlands County Sheriff's Office told MyFOXTampaBay that the plane was en route from Tampa to Miami and was owned by a private contractor planning to take about a dozen of the planes to Iraq.
But Labelle couldn't say what the plane was doing on this trip, or what happened to the pilot, who was taken to an airport and whisked away on another plane.
Especially weird, the pilot was quickly flown away in another plane. I wonder what they intended for these planes once they got to Iraq? I wonder how they were going to get them there in the first place?
There's probably a boat waiting for a cargo somewhere...
Post by: Finch on February 21, 2008, 07:41:46 PM
Post by: vaskidmark on February 22, 2008, 02:37:29 AM
As is well known but little remembered, much of Sadam Hiusien's wealth was frozen in banks in the USA. With the rise in insurgent violence recently, the cost of waging The Surge has risen. GWB, wishing to avoid another showdown with the Democratic Congress, has found a way to cover the increasing expenses of the Army in Iraq by "defrosting" those frozen assets and returning them home, where they can be laundered and recycled for use in paying for the imperialist war of occupation. The additional and unexpected side benefit of this move is that GWB's minions have been able to reduce the number of "scam" emails flowing out of Nigeria, thus reducing traffic on the Intetnet. That reduction has resulted in dial-up speeds exceeding 340 Megabits per nanosecond in certain areas of Wyoming and Nebraska.
As for how the plane was going to reach Iraq - just where did you think those large around-the-world baloons that disappeared went to? Who did you think was behind their disappearances? Those events were not mere bad fate, nor were they the doings of fundamentalist Shia Indonesian pirates seeking ramsom. They were coordinated events planned and carried out in preparation for this final chapter in the forcing of freedom on a hapless and helpless Middle Eastern country.
As Paul Harvey used to say, "And now you know the rest of the story."
stay safe.
skidmark
Post by: cfabe on February 22, 2008, 07:16:02 AM
SEBRING, Florida: No one knew what to make of it when a small propeller airplane stenciled with the words "Iraqi Air Force" made an emergency landing on a country road near the rural Florida community of Sebring.
Local sheriff's deputies surrounded the aircraft and stopped journalists from photographing it. The plane's markings were covered.
As it turns out, it was a training aircraft built for the Iraqi military that was being flown from the Tampa area to Miami for shipment to Iraq, Cessna spokesman Doug Oliver said Thursday.
The Cessna C-172 experienced mechanical problems and the pilot was forced to land on a rural road just north of Lake Okeechobee on Wednesday evening, according to Federal Aviation Administration records.
The four-seat, single-engine plane was a part of a $10.5 million (?7.13 million) contract awarded to Cessna Aircraft Co. of Wichita, Kansas, for 18 aircraft for the Iraqi Air Force, U.S. Air Force spokesman Daryl Mayer said.
Gray wolf losing protected status in U.S.
The aircraft are shipped from Miami to Iraq aboard Air Force transport planes, Oliver said.
The FAA said it is still investigating.
Post by: Manedwolf on February 22, 2008, 07:19:06 AM
Probably needed new pants if authorities surrounded the plane, though.
Post by: seeker_two on February 22, 2008, 07:41:28 AM
Nah....they actually shoot at invaders.....
Post by: Scout26 on February 22, 2008, 03:33:30 PM
Post by: Bogie on February 22, 2008, 04:05:41 PM
10 million bucks?
Gee, just how much are those flibs going for these days?
Post by: Sergeant Bob on February 22, 2008, 05:32:36 PM
18 C172s?
10 million bucks?
Gee, just how much are those flibs going for these days?
10 million bucks?
Gee, just how much are those flibs going for these days?
I saw a 2008 model 172SP going for $283,000. The Iraqi AF ones are about double that. They probably come with coffee pots.
Post by: lupinus on February 23, 2008, 02:56:06 AM
Post by: Jamisjockey on February 23, 2008, 03:08:43 AM
18 C172s?
10 million bucks?
Gee, just how much are those flibs going for these days?
10 million bucks?
Gee, just how much are those flibs going for these days?
I saw a 2008 model 172SP going for $283,000. The Iraqi AF ones are about double that. They probably come with coffee pots.
Probably full electronics, plus the cost of delivery and probably some of the training contract. Just a hunch.
Post by: elrod on February 23, 2008, 04:31:36 PM
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/02/21/america/NA-GEN-US-Iraqi-Emergency-Landing.php
SEBRING, Florida: No one knew what to make of it when a small propeller airplane stenciled with the words "Iraqi Air Force" made an emergency landing on a country road near the rural Florida community of Sebring.
Local sheriff's deputies surrounded the aircraft and stopped journalists from photographing it. The plane's markings were covered.
As it turns out, it was a training aircraft built for the Iraqi military that was being flown from the Tampa area to Miami for shipment to Iraq, Cessna spokesman Doug Oliver said Thursday.
The Cessna C-172 experienced mechanical problems and the pilot was forced to land on a rural road just north of Lake Okeechobee on Wednesday evening, according to Federal Aviation Administration records.
The four-seat, single-engine plane was a part of a $10.5 million (?7.13 million) contract awarded to Cessna Aircraft Co. of Wichita, Kansas, for 18 aircraft for the Iraqi Air Force, U.S. Air Force spokesman Daryl Mayer said.
Gray wolf losing protected status in U.S.
The aircraft are shipped from Miami to Iraq aboard Air Force transport planes, Oliver said.
The FAA said it is still investigating.
SEBRING, Florida: No one knew what to make of it when a small propeller airplane stenciled with the words "Iraqi Air Force" made an emergency landing on a country road near the rural Florida community of Sebring.
Local sheriff's deputies surrounded the aircraft and stopped journalists from photographing it. The plane's markings were covered.
As it turns out, it was a training aircraft built for the Iraqi military that was being flown from the Tampa area to Miami for shipment to Iraq, Cessna spokesman Doug Oliver said Thursday.
The Cessna C-172 experienced mechanical problems and the pilot was forced to land on a rural road just north of Lake Okeechobee on Wednesday evening, according to Federal Aviation Administration records.
The four-seat, single-engine plane was a part of a $10.5 million (?7.13 million) contract awarded to Cessna Aircraft Co. of Wichita, Kansas, for 18 aircraft for the Iraqi Air Force, U.S. Air Force spokesman Daryl Mayer said.
Gray wolf losing protected status in U.S.
The aircraft are shipped from Miami to Iraq aboard Air Force transport planes, Oliver said.
The FAA said it is still investigating.
Just as I suspected........a forthcoming air strike in Iraq.........
Post by: Manedwolf on February 23, 2008, 05:14:55 PM
"Turn back immediately, or we shall...reach you sometime tomorrow, and may launch a flare!"
Post by: Boomhauer on February 23, 2008, 05:26:25 PM
As a side note, all piston-engine Cessnas come from the factory these days with the Garmin G1000 glass panel avionics suite.
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But Labelle couldn't say what the plane was doing on this trip, or what happened to the pilot, who was taken to an airport and whisked away on another plane.
Especially weird, the pilot was quickly flown away in another plane.
Especially weird, the pilot was quickly flown away in another plane.
Rule number 136 of flying: Never, ever speak to the media regarding aviation matters, particularly a crash or emergency landing. Only speak to the FAA the minimum requirement. The media will eagery and happily twist whatever you tell them.
Post by: mfree on February 23, 2008, 06:01:08 PM
Post by: Bogie on February 23, 2008, 06:18:23 PM
Get a case of glass jars of the proper size. Insert a grenade in each. When you approach the target, pull all the pins. Dump 'em out. They hit, and approximately 5 seconds later there's lots of noise...
Post by: Boomhauer on February 23, 2008, 06:22:39 PM
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Just had an idea for aerial munitions - I bet it's been done before...
Get a case of glass jars of the proper size. Insert a grenade in each. When you approach the target, pull all the pins. Dump 'em out. They hit, and approximately 5 seconds later there's lots of noise...
Get a case of glass jars of the proper size. Insert a grenade in each. When you approach the target, pull all the pins. Dump 'em out. They hit, and approximately 5 seconds later there's lots of noise...
Read it in a novel, before. Sounds plausible.
Post by: Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas on February 23, 2008, 06:24:08 PM
Post by: Boomhauer on February 23, 2008, 06:26:34 PM
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htairfo/articles/20080219.aspx
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February 19, 2008: Strapped for cash, and qualified pilots, the Iraqi Air Force has adopted a clever solution for both problems. It is buying Cessna 172 single engine aircraft for training pilots. This is a common aircraft for the task, and those equipped for training are often called the T-41. But Iraq is also buying Cessna Grand Caravan 208B aircraft. This is also a single engine aircraft, but is larger than the four seat 172, and can carry nine passengers, or about a ton of cargo. The 208Bs are being equipped with the same sensors and targeting pods used on the Predator UAV. The 208B can be rigged to carry Hellfire missiles as well, giving the Iraqis an aircraft that can act as an Predator clone, a personnel transport or a cargo hauler. Many are available on the used aircraft market for about $2 million each. And pilots can be quickly trained on the 172, and easily transition to the 208B.
Hmm...rigging a Caravan with missiles. Cooooool. I WANT!
Post by: seeker_two on February 23, 2008, 06:48:18 PM
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Just had an idea for aerial munitions - I bet it's been done before...
Get a case of glass jars of the proper size. Insert a grenade in each. When you approach the target, pull all the pins. Dump 'em out. They hit, and approximately 5 seconds later there's lots of noise...
Get a case of glass jars of the proper size. Insert a grenade in each. When you approach the target, pull all the pins. Dump 'em out. They hit, and approximately 5 seconds later there's lots of noise...
Read it in a novel, before. Sounds plausible.
I prefer the block of C4 hidden in a bag of Afghan heroin dropped onto a bridge......worked in The Living Daylights....
Post by: Jamisjockey on February 24, 2008, 05:16:11 AM
All pilots have to start somewhere. Most commercial pilots likely had stick time in the C172 in thier formative years.
When I was ATC in KBRO (good luck with that one
), we had a flight school there. They had contracts with several countries' airlines, including Saudi Arabia. They recieved experience, English language immersion, and FAA certifications. So its no surprise that the new Iraqi air force would want some C172's for training.
Now, the C208B's....that's just cool right there! I love the Caravan...its an amazing piece of machinery.
Seems a little slow and vulnerable to ground fire to me, though.
Post by: mfree on February 24, 2008, 06:29:36 AM
Post by: Manedwolf on February 24, 2008, 06:30:48 AM
Cessna's no stranger to attack aircraft either. Remember the A37 Dragonfly?
Trainer they made into an "attack aircraft", AFAIK.
Post by: Jamisjockey on February 24, 2008, 09:19:54 AM
IIRC its still in use in Africa and South America as a combat aircraft. Great little ground attack plane.
Post by: Sergeant Bob on February 24, 2008, 10:21:49 AM
Yep.
IIRC its still in use in Africa and South America as a combat aircraft. Great little ground attack plane.
IIRC its still in use in Africa and South America as a combat aircraft. Great little ground attack plane.
We had the last active unit of OA-37's at Howard AFB, Panama, and most of them were sold to South American countries in 1991. One of the common problems commonly encountered by the "Tweets" were bird strikes, I think due to the similarity in size to large aves and their mistaken desire to mate with the aircraft.
Post by: Fly320s on February 25, 2008, 06:18:17 PM
Here's the thing I think alot of you are missing:
All pilots have to start somewhere. Most commercial pilots likely had stick time in the C172 in thier formative years.
When I was ATC in KBRO (good luck with that one), we had a flight school there. They had contracts with several countries' airlines, including Saudi Arabia. They recieved experience, English language immersion, and FAA certifications.
All pilots have to start somewhere. Most commercial pilots likely had stick time in the C172 in thier formative years.
When I was ATC in KBRO (good luck with that one
), we had a flight school there. They had contracts with several countries' airlines, including Saudi Arabia. They recieved experience, English language immersion, and FAA certifications.I worked there training those Saudis, Indos, and the occassional American. Southwind Aviation.