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Title: Is this you Fly320s?
Post by: mtnbkr on March 03, 2008, 11:34:00 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/03/03/germany.plane/index.html?iref=mpstoryview#cnnSTCText

Chris
Title: Re: Is this you Fly320s?
Post by: Manedwolf on March 03, 2008, 08:19:17 PM

I can imagine the next transmission from the cockpit after that one.

"Ich scheisse mein hosen!"  cheesy
Title: Re: Is this you Fly320s?
Post by: Brad Johnson on March 03, 2008, 08:21:24 PM
Will probably have to reupholster the seats - some from stains, some from pucker pinch.

Brad
Title: Re: Is this you Fly320s?
Post by: bedlamite on March 03, 2008, 08:46:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luTxwqxaRcY
Title: Re: Is this you Fly320s?
Post by: grampster on March 03, 2008, 09:02:45 PM
They ought to give that pilot a big raise.
Title: Re: Is this you Fly320s?
Post by: Fly320s on March 03, 2008, 09:45:21 PM
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Is this you Fly320s?

Nope, not me.

They ought to give that pilot a big raise.

Wait!!  Yes, that was me!   grin

That, boys and girls, is why we have crosswind limitations.  For landing 33 knots, gusting to 38 knots.  The A320 is very squirrly in crosswinds; I don't like it at all.
Title: Re: Is this you Fly320s?
Post by: Brad Johnson on March 03, 2008, 09:50:37 PM
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That, boys and girls, is why we have crosswind limitations.  For landing 33 knots, gusting to 38 knots.  The A320 is very squirrly in crosswinds;

Yeesh, the stuff I've flown would be wayyyyy beyond "squirrely" in a 33 knot crosswind.   shocked

Piper Cherokee's and Cessna taildraggers tend to get pushed around a lot.

Brad
Title: Re: Is this you Fly320s?
Post by: Fly320s on March 03, 2008, 10:00:03 PM
Yeah, but with those you can just land across the runway; into the wind.   grin

Oh, for all those folks that were skeptical of the video of the airplanes landing in St Maarten, I'm heading there four times this month.  I'll get some good video from the beach for you.  I might even get a video of an airplane landing. shocked
Title: Re: Is this you Fly320s?
Post by: Brad Johnson on March 03, 2008, 10:09:26 PM
Yeah, but with those you can just land across the runway; into the wind.   grin

Runway?  Runway!?  We don' need no steeeeenking runway...!

Brad
Title: Re: Is this you Fly320s?
Post by: Fly320s on March 03, 2008, 10:28:17 PM
You mean like these guys?

World's shortest takeoff and landing: http://www.break.com/index/world-record-shortest-takeoff-and-landing-457631.html

Video is work safe.  Some parts of site are not.
Title: Re: Is this you Fly320s?
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on March 03, 2008, 10:36:29 PM
what was wind speed  and what were those planes?
Title: Re: Is this you Fly320s?
Post by: Fly320s on March 03, 2008, 10:39:38 PM
Wind speed?  Don't know.

Plane = Aviat Husky on tundra tires.  Possibly modified for short-field operations.

http://www.aviataircraft.com/husky/overview.htm
Title: Re: Is this you Fly320s?
Post by: Manedwolf on March 03, 2008, 10:42:20 PM
I thought the world's shortest takeoffs with a civilian fixed wing were with a Pilatus Turbo Porter?

I've even heard of someone putting up a sign of "No takeoffs out of the hangar!"...because it can.  cheesy
Title: Re: Is this you Fly320s?
Post by: Gewehr98 on March 03, 2008, 11:44:01 PM
Crosswind takeoffs and landings?

No biggy, just crab the 4 mains and Bob's your uncle!   grin

For those not in the know:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/stonefaction/237071351/

Title: Re: Is this you Fly320s?
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on March 04, 2008, 12:10:51 AM
bout 73 i lived in bellvue nebraksa  with friends whose dad was an af bird at sac
was a line of storms coming through  tornadoes   their sop is launch everything  was at runway end when they came off 2  wide as fast as they could  was educational and inspirational
Title: Re: Is this you Fly320s?
Post by: K Frame on March 04, 2008, 03:12:50 AM
The crabbing part I understand. Damned neat system.

Bob's your uncle? No clue.
Title: Re: Is this you Fly320s?
Post by: Gewehr98 on March 04, 2008, 03:17:30 AM
Mike, it's an old Aussie/Brit term, synonymous with, "There you have it!"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob's_your_uncle

I picked it up via my extended government vacations in places like Diego Garcia, Alice Springs, etc. 
Title: Re: Is this you Fly320s?
Post by: Jamisjockey on March 04, 2008, 07:31:31 AM
You mean like these guys?

World's shortest takeoff and landing: http://www.break.com/index/world-record-shortest-takeoff-and-landing-457631.html

Video is work safe.  Some parts of site are not.


Buttah!


Part of the entertainment of working in small towers were the more colorful users.
When I was stationed at KYUM, we had border patrol.  they flew some Piper cubs for fixed wing observation....Clear 'em for an intersection departure at the departure end taxiway....100' later they're airborne and turning out.
 shocked
Title: Re: Is this you Fly320s?
Post by: Manedwolf on March 04, 2008, 07:35:11 AM
You mean like these guys?

World's shortest takeoff and landing: http://www.break.com/index/world-record-shortest-takeoff-and-landing-457631.html

Video is work safe.  Some parts of site are not.

I usually try to find the same video on YouTube, because they usually are there as well. Unlike Break, which has a high quotient of "girls gone wild" content and might be banned by workplace firewalls (or get people in trouble, since it comes up as PR0N SITE), youtube isn't generally banned. Smiley
Title: Re: Is this you Fly320s?
Post by: Tallpine on March 04, 2008, 07:47:15 AM
Search for "cubdriver" on Youtube and see a bunch of short takeoffs and landings.
Title: Re: Is this you Fly320s?
Post by: Jamisjockey on March 04, 2008, 12:46:13 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1f6r5I8OHXE

 shocked  http://youtube.com/watch?v=ct2fNFc8AxY


http://youtube.com/watch?v=haXK_WBLjjg


http://youtube.com/watch?v=dWzx2Ft9pww

http://youtube.com/watch?v=wNwos50tNiM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7FWL4NBW0Yw

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bTntTqm4gbw
Title: Re: Is this you Fly320s?
Post by: Paddy on March 04, 2008, 01:06:59 PM
Looks like that pilot did way better than 99% of us could have.  The aircraft looks cross controlled, though, like he's trying to slip it in.  Dunno what that's about.
Title: Re: Is this you Fly320s?
Post by: Brad Johnson on March 04, 2008, 01:16:30 PM
I'd like to hear the CVR.

Brad
Title: Re: Is this you Fly320s?
Post by: El Tejon on March 04, 2008, 01:57:50 PM
Hans, ich muss meine Hosen andern!  Jezt!
Title: Re: Is this you Fly320s?
Post by: Fly320s on March 04, 2008, 02:07:14 PM
Looks like that pilot did way better than 99% of us could have.  The aircraft looks cross controlled, though, like he's trying to slip it in.  Dunno what that's about.

Riley, if you are referring to the German A320, the aircraft must be slipped to land straight ahead during a crosswind.  The other option is to land in a crab, but that puts the nose of the plane pointed towards the grass, and the wheels of the plane are getting a large side-load.  Not good.
Title: Re: Is this you Fly320s?
Post by: Boomhauer on March 04, 2008, 05:40:01 PM
Looks like that pilot did way better than 99% of us could have.  The aircraft looks cross controlled, though, like he's trying to slip it in.  Dunno what that's about.

Riley, if you are referring to the German A320, the aircraft must be slipped to land straight ahead during a crosswind.  The other option is to land in a crab, but that puts the nose of the plane pointed towards the grass, and the wheels of the plane are getting a large side-load.  Not good.

Yeah, if you are in an aircraft that does not have crosswind gear, you are supposed to transition into a slip before touchdown- to put the gear straight down the runway. If you have crosswind gear, you can crab till landing, no problem. A slip has it's limitations, though- you can run out of control authority.

I was up practicing crosswind landings yesterday- I hadn't done any in a while, and the gusting wind gave me some good practice. I took along an instructor, though.

Title: Re: Is this you Fly320s?
Post by: Nitrogen on March 04, 2008, 06:26:35 PM
Two great videos showing what you guys are explaining:

Here's an A320.  The commentary is in german icelandic I think.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GHrLB_mlir4&feature=related

Here's a better video showing the extreme, this time an American plane, with portugese subtitles.  You can see the crosswind gear on this video pretty well:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=sldcahRFZKg

I really need to finish my classes and get my paper.