Post by: jdoc on April 04, 2008, 05:59:41 PM
It was being discussed on OCDO and I thought I would post it here.
I think the leo did great given the situation. If this was an armed citizen I don't think it would have went over as well as it did since its was an leo.
What do you guys and gals think?
Post by: vaskidmark on April 05, 2008, 01:43:59 AM
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If this was an armed citizen I don't think it would have went over as well as it did since its was an leo.
And why not? I'd like to hear your explanation.
stay safe.
skidmark
Post by: 280plus on April 05, 2008, 02:24:47 AM
My explanation is I woulda been honking on the trigger, not yelling at the guy. LEO is lucky, ballsy but lucky.
Post by: Fly320s on April 05, 2008, 02:52:26 AM
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If this was an armed citizen I don't think it would have went over as well as it did since its was an leo.
I don't think the robber could tell that the other guy was a cop. The cop was off duty and appeared to be out of uniform. So, as far as the robber was concerned, the other guy was just another Joe Normal.
Post by: gunsmith on April 05, 2008, 04:16:28 AM
I would have started shooting.
Post by: K Frame on April 05, 2008, 05:42:49 AM
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on April 05, 2008, 05:50:58 AM
if i was trhe cops boss i'd be torn between praising him for restraint and being well trained. or kicking his tail for not shooting the doofus and taking the chance on getting killed. i think bonaduces comment about the huevos was accurate. nice job hes a better man than me i'd have shot that fool
Post by: Jamisjockey on April 05, 2008, 05:52:02 AM
That site is crap. Plays 2 seconds of video, hangs for 5 to 10 seconds repeatedly.
Played fast and smooth for me. Maybe whoever took your mail is in your intrawebz, too.
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If this was an armed citizen I don't think it would have went over as well as it did since its was an leo.
What do you guys and gals think?
What do you guys and gals think?
The audio is a little fuzzy, but I don't think he ever identified himelf as a cop. He hung his big brass clangers out by not just putting two 'tween the nipples. The BG had the drop and hesitated on lowering his weapon when confronted.
Most criminals conduct thier crimes with impunity. Being confronted by an armed person at the scene of the crime in progress is not the normal for them. The shock of such actions took the element of superiority and surprise away from the BG. I'm not surprised he didn't shoot. And if it had been an armed citizien, who reacted in a similiar manner, the outcome would have likely been similar.
My gut tells me I would have opened fire immediately, and that the cop should have done the same. However, I've never BTDT, so I can't be certain that I wouldn't hunker behind the twinkies in cowardly fear.
Post by: jdoc on April 05, 2008, 06:03:55 AM
Post by: Werewolf on April 05, 2008, 06:20:35 AM
I like the choices of Danny Bonaduce and Willis for their "expert" comments...
My explanation is I woulda been honking on the trigger, not yelling at the guy. LEO is lucky, ballsy but lucky.
Very lucky...My explanation is I woulda been honking on the trigger, not yelling at the guy. LEO is lucky, ballsy but lucky.
A CCW'r would either just remain as low key as possible until the robber got his money and left or wait until the robber was confronting the clerk and shoot the sucker then. A lot would depend on the mindset of the CCW'r.
Which is why the guys in prison who were asked almost universally said they're way more afraid of armed citizens than the cops.
Post by: Fly320s on April 05, 2008, 07:24:09 AM
Most criminals conduct thier crimes with impunity. Being confronted by an armed person at the scene of the crime in progress is not the normal for them.
I wonder if the reverse holds true for cops. A well-seasoned cop, who is used to being obeyed immediatly, may hesitate to shoot because he expects the criminal's immediate compliance. That could prove to be a big mistake.I'm not saying the outcome would have been any different had it been an armed citizen. I'm saying the news and other such tv people would not have been speaking so kindly of him. There has been a couple self defense shootings on the news I have seen around my area and most people seem to demonize the good guy that drew a gun.
Gotcha.