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Title: Nutri System
Post by: SomeKid on April 17, 2008, 11:29:50 PM
We talked about it in a previous thread, and I said I would go ahead and buy it.

Well, it came yesterday. You guys weren't kidding when you talked about portion control. I mean, sweet crap, this one box has all my food for a month? I must have been consuming 6000 calories a day, or more.

As I was wondering how this was going to sate my appetite, I looked around the box, and saw a roach had been crushed against it. Perhaps it is an attempt at controlling my hunger. Problem is, they don't know how strong it is. Moments later I was munching the chips, which weren't all that bad.

So, is anyone else on this diet right now?
Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: PTK on April 17, 2008, 11:32:01 PM
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I must have been consuming 6000 calories a day, or more.

Many people overeat without realizing it. A lot of this comes from sweet drinks such as soda, candy, and of course too many snack foods.
Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: mfree on April 18, 2008, 09:48:25 AM
*nod* With "modern" food it's easy to have too many calories.

This is why my "diet" is basically to eat whatever for breakfast AS LONG as I'm cooking it, which time limits me in both prep and eating time, a 9oz container of frozen whatever that I made a gallon of a few weeks ago, and a decent sandwich for dinner, usually a little over what's considered a full serving of lunchmeat and decent REAL cheese.

Weekends are pretty much unlimited, but by then I'm so used to little meals that I physically *can't* overeat.

Breakfast is still usually pretty good, 2-3 cups of fresh coffee with an egg or two, some raw vegetable medley (carrot, cauli, broccoli), and a bowl of oatmeal or salt/pepper or spicy grits.
Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: Manedwolf on April 18, 2008, 09:50:48 AM
A lot of people overeat in restaurants, because the expectation is now quantity. A small portion of excellently cooked food isn't "value"....Value is a shovel-load of food on a plate that used to be considered a serving dish for an entire table. I usually eat only half a meal, if that, and take the rest home.

I see this even in the language used now, when a server asks if you're done, or still "working on that", as if you're nose-down in a feeding trough. rolleyes

Also, just try getting a beverage that's less than 20 ounces. There's a lot of calories in those! It's why I drink water, unsweetened iced tea or coffee most of the time.
Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: mtnbkr on April 18, 2008, 10:21:17 AM
Value is a shovel-load of food on a plate that used to be considered a serving dish for an entire table. I usually eat only half a meal, if that, and take the rest home.

Also, just try getting a beverage that's less than 20 ounces. There's a lot of calories in those! It's why I drink water, unsweetened iced tea or coffee most of the time.

There seems to be a trend lately where restaurants are serving smaller portioned meals for lower prices.  First it was one of hte AppleTuesFriday restaurants and now Jerry's Subs and Pizzas.  Dunno how widespread the latter is, but they're common around here.  They tend to serve HUGE subs, but have recently been advertising a smaller option for a smaller price.

I get water/unsweet tea/coffee as well.  I don't need 300+ calories on top of my 1500cal meal.

Chris
Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: Manedwolf on April 18, 2008, 10:50:37 AM
Haven't seen that option around here much yet. Just commercials for Applebee's Overfeeding Combo whatever.
Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: Ezekiel on April 18, 2008, 11:14:24 AM
I am quite interested in the outcome of this experiment.
Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: Mabs2 on April 18, 2008, 07:48:34 PM
An easy way to over eat is by eating lunch at Bojangles' and then suddenly going to great-gramma's to fix her A/C.
Everyone knows you don't turn down gramma food.
Then again, I ate breakfast around 2, and lunch around 5...so I guess that was supper. Cheesy
Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: SomeKid on April 18, 2008, 08:03:18 PM
An easy way to over eat is by eating lunch at Bojangles' and then suddenly going to great-gramma's to fix her A/C.
Everyone knows you don't turn down gramma food.
Then again, I ate breakfast around 2, and lunch around 5...so I guess that was supper. Cheesy

That is a very true statement. If I do not eat her food, she takes insult. If you love your Grandmother, you eat her food. granted, mine is a damn good cook, so it is hard to say no. Her version of sloppy cooking is still gourmet to me.
Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: BridgeRunner on April 18, 2008, 09:54:28 PM
I see this even in the language used now, when a server asks if you're done, or still "working on that", as if you're nose-down in a feeding trough. rolleyes

Yeah, that really, really bugs me.
Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: AmbulanceDriver on April 20, 2008, 06:15:40 AM
My wife and I have taken to sharing an entree when we go out to eat.  First, it cuts the calories in half.  We sometimes will get an appetizer, sometimes not.  Depends on the restaurant.  Also, it helps the ol' budget.  Obviously cheaper to split an entree, and even to split an appetizer and an entree, than to get two entrees.  We're drinking more water, which also helps us feel full.  And doesn't add 300 calories to the meal. 
Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: Boomhauer on April 20, 2008, 07:35:53 AM
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Many people overeat without realizing it. A lot of this comes from sweet drinks such as soda, candy, and of course too many snack foods.

Yep. I just dropped sodas and stuff with caffeine in it. It gave me a bad headache for a day and a half, but I am off of it. It also saves me a lot of money at the convenience store- drinks are up to $1.39 for a 20oz coke, and a candy bar costs $.70+. And now I am no longer a slave to caffience.

I don't plan on changing any other aspect of my eating habbits, so I am going to see how this does for me. I've gained 30 pounds since my last flight physical 3 years ago, and I want to stop gaining, and hopefully start dropping.





Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: Bogie on April 21, 2008, 07:45:56 AM
That's 5 gallons of avgas!
Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: Manedwolf on April 21, 2008, 07:50:58 AM
If you want caffeine, drink black coffee. Zero calories.
Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: Finch on April 21, 2008, 08:04:21 AM
My mom was telling me about this test that she saw on T.V. They took 20 overweight people and had them sit down to a normal meal they would consume. They were told to eat until they were satisfied. All of them completly finished their meals, which were large in portions. Well a couple of days later, they took that same group and did it again, but this time they were blindfolded.  On average, less than half of the meals were completed before the participants said they were full.

Your mind is what makes you fat...
Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: wmenorr67 on April 21, 2008, 08:07:37 AM
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Your mind is what makes you fat...

I thought it was Rosie O's spoon.
Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: mtnbkr on April 21, 2008, 08:18:14 AM
My wife and I have taken to sharing an entree when we go out to eat.  First, it cuts the calories in half.  We sometimes will get an appetizer, sometimes not.  Depends on the restaurant.  Also, it helps the ol' budget.  Obviously cheaper to split an entree, and even to split an appetizer and an entree, than to get two entrees.  We're drinking more water, which also helps us feel full.  And doesn't add 300 calories to the meal. 

We share meals as well, but sometimes one of us will want something different.  Then there's the issue of cooking, I like my meat rare, she wants it well-done. 

My mom was telling me about this test that she saw on T.V. They took 20 overweight people and had them sit down to a normal meal they would consume. They were told to eat until they were satisfied. All of them completly finished their meals, which were large in portions. Well a couple of days later, they took that same group and did it again, but this time they were blindfolded.  On average, less than half of the meals were completed before the participants said they were full.

I'm the same way.  My problem is that I hate throwing food away.  I've started using smaller plates and all to reduce what I bring to the table, but if it's on my plate, I want to eat it.

Chris
Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: Manedwolf on April 21, 2008, 08:19:12 AM
I'm the same way.  My problem is that I hate throwing food away.  I've started using smaller plates and all to reduce what I bring to the table, but if it's on my plate, I want to eat it.

Chris

I keep in mind a mnemonic to prevent that. Rather it go to waste, or go to waist? smiley
Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: SomeKid on April 21, 2008, 05:14:11 PM
*Grumble* Over 300 a month, and it is 1500 calories a day, plus I still have to buy my own veggies/fruits.

Now I can see why people who diet are not happy. Granted, my own fault that I thought I was only supposed to eat what they sent. I was so hungry until I realized that.
Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: Fjolnirsson on April 21, 2008, 08:42:04 PM
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Granted, my own fault that I thought I was only supposed to eat what they sent.

I thought that's how it worked?
 undecided
Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: SomeKid on April 21, 2008, 09:23:41 PM
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Granted, my own fault that I thought I was only supposed to eat what they sent.

I thought that's how it worked?
 undecided

So did I. They compose probably 75% of what your diet is supposed to be. You still have to buy things like fruits, veggies, and things of that nature. If this gimic works, I won't care, but I was hoping it would be a lot easier. Then again, I can always buy a bunch of carrots, and snack on them. Carrots and chocolate milk will fill me up decently, and add a lot of needed fiber.
Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: HankB on April 22, 2008, 08:21:34 AM
. . . Carrots and chocolate milk will fill me up decently, and add a lot of needed fiber.
Skim milk, sweetened with sugar-free chocolate, I presume.  angel

One thing I've noticed on these NutriSystem commercials where they have some sports has-been saying "I lost 22 lbs . . . " they never, ever say HOW LONG it took him to lose the weight.
Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: mtnbkr on April 22, 2008, 08:46:48 AM
One thing I've noticed on these NutriSystem commercials where they have some sports has-been saying "I lost 22 lbs . . . " they never, ever say HOW LONG it took him to lose the weight.

I lost about 5lbs in a month without NS being my only source of calories (mainly lunch with some dinners, even fewer breakfasts).  I don't doubt someone could lose 10lbs or more a month with a strict NS diet.  The question is whether or not they could keep it off (I have Wink ).

Chris
Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: SomeKid on April 22, 2008, 10:32:00 AM
. . . Carrots and chocolate milk will fill me up decently, and add a lot of needed fiber.
Skim milk, sweetened with sugar-free chocolate, I presume.  angel

One thing I've noticed on these NutriSystem commercials where they have some sports has-been saying "I lost 22 lbs . . . " they never, ever say HOW LONG it took him to lose the weight.

Skim milk, yes. No comment beyond that.
Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: Brad Johnson on April 22, 2008, 10:34:03 AM
Enough of that sugar-free chocolate and you'll be losing weight whether you want to or not.

Brad
Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: DJJ on April 22, 2008, 03:25:15 PM
One thing I've noticed on these NutriSystem commercials where they have some sports has-been saying "I lost 22 lbs . . . " they never, ever say HOW LONG it took him to lose the weight.
More important, they never say how long it took to gain it back.
Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: taurusowner on April 28, 2008, 12:06:35 AM
I don't know about other diets, but I lost 8 lbs in a little over a month simply but not drinking soda at all.  I've also started to not eat at all if it's less than 3 hours before I go to bed, and not eating carbs as much.  It seems to be pretty effective so far.  And the not drinking soda has also helped me not get winded so fast while PTing.
Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: Silver Bullet on May 09, 2008, 04:54:08 PM
I decided to try this.  I'd like to lose 22 pounds.

I'm trying it for four weeks, and comparing with my wife who is on a different diet.  I figured if I can lose 10 pounds in a month with this diet, I'll be happy with it.  Five pounds will still be satisfactory.

So far, after eight days, I've lost 5 pounds.  My wife has lost two pounds. 

I researched this on the web before jumping in, and Nutri-System appears to have a generally very favorable rating.  I found some anti-Nutri sites, too.  One had a woman who claimed that her husband couldn't eat the food because it was so bad tasting.  Another site said the diet was okay, but not for people who wanted to see immediate results.  As you read through those sites you realize they are selling a competing product.

My own results show a fairly immediate weight loss.  And, the food hasn't been bad at all, except maybe the powdered scrambled eggs.  Nothing a lot of salt and pepper and dill weed can't fix, though.  I actually look forward to coming home and picking from one of several dozen different entrees, most of which have been tasty and ... small.  When you buy into the program, you get 28 breakfasts, 28 lunches, 28 suppers, and 28 desserts.  In addition, you receive a guide book to check off what you eat each day, and in addition to those four items you get to eat another dozen of your own choosing ("fruit serving", "vegetable serving", "protein serving", "dairy serving"), and the back of the guide defines what are acceptable choices in each category.  I was afraid I'd be hungry, but that hasn't been the case.  They are all easy to prepare.  Some you add boiling water and wait ten minutes, some you pop into the microwave for 90 seconds.  Some you merely unwrap. 

Most of the suppers are like a frozen tv dinner, except they're not frozen.  I wouldn't plan on long term storage with those.
Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: Brad Johnson on May 10, 2008, 09:41:27 AM
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And, the food hasn't been bad at all, except maybe the powdered scrambled eggs.  Nothing a lot of salt and pepper and dill weed can't fix, though.


The special "Dude This Is Killer Good!" spice.  cheesy

Brad
Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: Silver Bullet on May 16, 2008, 04:43:24 PM
After 15 days, I've lost eight pounds.

I went three or four days in a row without losing any weight, according to my kitchen scales.  I think it had something to do with trying to pass off margaritas as my "fruit serving."  No more margaritas until I finish the diet.

I'm not sure if it was the caloric content of the sweet and sour mixer, or if the tequila lowered my metabolism for the night,  so that I didn't get the overnight weight loss I usually do.

I've decided, on scanty evidence, that diet is much more important than exercise for losing weight, although I'm still on the same exercise regimen I was on before the diet, lifting weights. 

My scanty evidence consists of two data points.  One, if you get on an exercise bike that tells you how many calories you've burned, you discover that you can pedal like crazy for 45 minutes and find out you've burned up the equivalent of ... what, half a candy bar ?

Two, if I weigh myself throughout the day, I discover that I get my greatest weight loss overnight.  No exercise while I'm sleeping, but I lose the most weight anyway.  That, of course, is metabolism, which keeps on chugging all night while I eat nothing at all.  Therefore, diet is the bigger factor.
Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: mtnbkr on May 17, 2008, 12:37:52 AM
FWIW, I burn about 800cal/hour while biking.  That must be some candybar you're eating if 45min is only half of one. Smiley

I've noticed I lose more weight via diet than exercise as well. 

Chris
Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: Silver Bullet on May 17, 2008, 07:35:35 AM
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I burn about 800cal/hour while biking

It's been a while since I've been on the exercise bike, so I don't have my exact figures at hand.  800 cal/hr sounds like a lot !  Either my bike needs recalibrating, or you are doing some some powerful biking:  going up hills, cruising at a higher speed, etc.  I suspect the latter, that you are a very accomplished biker; ' course, your user name is a clue.   smiley
Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: Brad Johnson on May 17, 2008, 09:16:58 AM
Figure the mixer at about the same caloric content of a soft drink (120-150 cal per 12 oz).  The tequila will add another 75-80 calories per shot.  Your average single margarita will weigh in at about 200-225 calories.

Brad
Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: SomeKid on May 17, 2008, 06:28:39 PM
Roughly 8 pounds in 30 days.

My secret is pretty simple: Rice. I always drank loads of water, so I am continuing that, but adding a small serving of rice is certainly better than eating a fattening meal. I steam it, and put a bit of low sodium soy sauce on (IOW, low sodium salt). The snacks are kind of useful as well. Add to that working more, which is not a sit down job, this thing is slowly working. I can already feel my pants as being a bit looser.
Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: mtnbkr on May 18, 2008, 09:22:25 AM
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I burn about 800cal/hour while biking

It's been a while since I've been on the exercise bike, so I don't have my exact figures at hand.  800 cal/hr sounds like a lot !  Either my bike needs recalibrating, or you are doing some some powerful biking:  going up hills, cruising at a higher speed, etc.  I suspect the latter, that you are a very accomplished biker; ' course, your user name is a clue.   smiley

Dunno if I ride harder than you or not, but I got my numbers from my heart rate monitor.

I did 140 miles this weekend, that was good for about 7000 calories.  Quite a few candybars there. Wink

Chris
Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: Silver Bullet on May 18, 2008, 10:32:30 AM
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I did 140 miles this weekend

That's a lot.  20 years ago I was somewhat of a bicycle enthusiast, and I know that it takes a good amount of conditioning to go off and ride 100 miles, although I never pursued it to that extent.

Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: Silver Bullet on May 25, 2008, 08:31:25 AM
After 24 days, 8.5 pounds.  I've definitely leveled off; I haven't lost weight from seven days ago.

That does include one big meal in the middle of last week where I went off the diet momentarily for a special occasion.  Went to a Benihana-type restaurant with my wife.  But, I had planned that before I even started the diet, so I didn't actually stray in a moment of weakness.

I still expect to show more progress in the next week.  Looks like I'll buy another month's worth of food, though, and try to reach my goal in another month.  If I do a well next month as this month, I'm there. 
Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: Vodka7 on May 25, 2008, 10:13:16 AM
My cousin was on Nutri-System for the first six months of his long-term diet, and I can tell from watching him that the system definitely works as long as you have the outside support and pay attention to what it's trying to teach you (portion control).  When he started the plan, his first goal was to weigh less than my brother (Sean is 5'8" and said he was 350.  Colin is 6'4" and was around 280 when Sean set his goal.)  He hit that first goal in about six months.  His second goal was to be able to get back to his graduation weight, which was 240.  Now, he's aiming to get under 200 for the first time in (well) over a decade, and he'll probably hit that by the end of this summer.

He's also coupling his diet with increased exersice.  In high school he used to be an amazing tennis player, but he hasn't been able to play in years.  Now, he's back on the court almost every weekend.

The biggest change though is in his self control.  Sean used to be a seconds, thirds, and fourths type of guy.  The kind who kept eating until there wasn't any more to eat--the concept of leftovers was pretty foreign to him.  Now, even when we go out to eat, it's not uncommon for him to leave half of his steak on the table.  And for weekend barbecues, he's switched from putting away a six pack to nursing a few mini-Corona's over the course of an afternoon.  His rum & cokes are rum& diet cokes now (and like Brad said, most of the calories in mixed drinks come from the mixers.)

He also takes "food education" courses, which teach you every week how to make low-calorie foods, so that when he splurges, he can splurge in a less destructive manner.  He may still be making chocolate cake, but he's making one with half the calories of his mom's recipe, and he's eating slices half as small.  Every little thing adds up.  Nutri-System teaches you that you can still eat what you want, just not as much of it, and with a few small changes.
Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: Silver Bullet on May 25, 2008, 02:50:39 PM
dtemplar,

Welcome to the Armed Polite Society !   cool
Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: Silver Bullet on May 25, 2008, 02:51:56 PM
Vodka7,

If your cousin lost 70 pounds in six months on the Nutri-System diet, I'll take that as good news for my chances of losing another ten pounds on my second month.
Title: Re: Nutri System
Post by: Silver Bullet on June 01, 2008, 06:28:13 AM
Just to conclude my exciting report ...

After one month (31 days), I lost 12 pounds on the NutriSystem diet.

It cost me about $320, but my monthly grocery bill went down by nearly that much.  The bigger cost was in craving certain things I can't have on my diet:  fried chicken, barbecued ribs, pizza, margaritas, or Mexican food (there is a beef taco offering, and the meat is really tasty, but it doesn't include cheese, lettuce, salsa, ...).

I would definitely recommend this diet, and I'm going to go one more month with it.

Some of my favorites:

Dinner: 
Cajun Style Chicken & Sausage with Rice
Vegetable Lasagna with Basil Tomato Sauce
Chicken with Dumplings
Cheese & Spinach Ravioli with Meat Sauce

Lunch:
Chicken Noodle Soup
Black Bean Tortilla Soup
Chicken Salad
Fudge Graham Bar
Chocolate Peanut Butter Bar

Breakfast:
Apple Strudel Scone
Maple Brown Sugar Oatmeal
Blueberry Pancakes

Dessert:
Zesty Herb Snack Mix
Chocolate Caramel Bar
White Chocolate Chunk Cookie
Chocolate Chocolate Chip Pudding
Chocolate Crunch Bar

The oatmeal and chicken salad are as good as any I've had anywhere.  YMMV.