Post by: Jamisjockey on April 26, 2008, 10:45:39 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080426/ap_on_el_pr/democrats
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By MIKE GLOVER and SARA KUGLER, Associated Press Writer
20 minutes ago
MARION, Ind. - Hillary Rodham Clinton takes the debate dispute to a new level, challenging her opponent Barack Obama to face off with her in a debate without a moderator, Lincoln-Douglas style.
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The Democratic presidential candidate said while campaigning in South Bend, Indiana, on Saturday the 90-minute debate would allow two candidates to ask each other questions.
Her campaign formally made the offer in a letter to the Obama campaign.
Clinton has been putting increasing pressure on Obama to debate her again before the Indiana and North Carolina primaries in nine days.
20 minutes ago
MARION, Ind. - Hillary Rodham Clinton takes the debate dispute to a new level, challenging her opponent Barack Obama to face off with her in a debate without a moderator, Lincoln-Douglas style.
ADVERTISEMENT
The Democratic presidential candidate said while campaigning in South Bend, Indiana, on Saturday the 90-minute debate would allow two candidates to ask each other questions.
Her campaign formally made the offer in a letter to the Obama campaign.
Clinton has been putting increasing pressure on Obama to debate her again before the Indiana and North Carolina primaries in nine days.
Anyone else think she'd eat him alive in an unmoderated debate?
Post by: Matthew Carberry on April 26, 2008, 11:11:51 AM
Has he (or she for that matter) ever done anything really unscripted?
Post by: K Frame on April 26, 2008, 12:36:16 PM
OK, that's the quote of the weekend right there!
Post by: De Selby on April 26, 2008, 12:58:23 PM
Even Hillary knows he's got no substance
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080426/ap_on_el_pr/democrats
Anyone else think she'd eat him alive in an unmoderated debate?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080426/ap_on_el_pr/democrats
Quote
By MIKE GLOVER and SARA KUGLER, Associated Press Writer
20 minutes ago
MARION, Ind. - Hillary Rodham Clinton takes the debate dispute to a new level, challenging her opponent Barack Obama to face off with her in a debate without a moderator, Lincoln-Douglas style.
ADVERTISEMENT
The Democratic presidential candidate said while campaigning in South Bend, Indiana, on Saturday the 90-minute debate would allow two candidates to ask each other questions.
Her campaign formally made the offer in a letter to the Obama campaign.
Clinton has been putting increasing pressure on Obama to debate her again before the Indiana and North Carolina primaries in nine days.
20 minutes ago
MARION, Ind. - Hillary Rodham Clinton takes the debate dispute to a new level, challenging her opponent Barack Obama to face off with her in a debate without a moderator, Lincoln-Douglas style.
ADVERTISEMENT
The Democratic presidential candidate said while campaigning in South Bend, Indiana, on Saturday the 90-minute debate would allow two candidates to ask each other questions.
Her campaign formally made the offer in a letter to the Obama campaign.
Clinton has been putting increasing pressure on Obama to debate her again before the Indiana and North Carolina primaries in nine days.
Anyone else think she'd eat him alive in an unmoderated debate?
Uh, no-I think she is hoping to psych him out of an unmoderated debate, but Hilary is about one of the most uninspiring, credibility lacking speakers I've seen since John Kerry danced his way to a dismal 2004 finish.
She's gotten where she has in this primary by playing the race card and pretending to be the Margaret Thatcher of the 21st century. Her actual skill as a politician/orator is about up there with Kerry's, and not far beyond.
Post by: K Frame on April 26, 2008, 12:59:42 PM
Post by: Matthew Carberry on April 26, 2008, 01:01:42 PM
I miss statesmanlike leaders.
I know the aggressive modern press has a lot to do with the decline in "appearances" but can't anyone turn a phrase anymore?
Post by: Manedwolf on April 26, 2008, 05:03:23 PM
"Because she's a better debater or because she's known to feed upon the flesh of the living?"
OK, that's the quote of the weekend right there!
OK, that's the quote of the weekend right there!
I still think she might pull off her skin to reveal that she's a giant lizard, then devour him.
Post by: Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas on April 26, 2008, 05:14:38 PM
I'll DVR it.
Post by: Jamisjockey on April 27, 2008, 03:22:04 AM
Oratorical skills and debating skills don't really have much in common.
Exactly.
And, unlike Obama, Hillary has a platform. And she's not stupid enough to accuse the people of bitterly holding onto god and guns. Obama can't seem to do anything that isn't written on a script.
and, of course, if she pulled off her skin and devoured him, that'd be a bonus.
Post by: Iain on April 27, 2008, 05:46:46 AM
He won't suffer too much from that I wouldn't think, and he's not about to enter into the suicide pact that an unmoderated national debate could easily become. Seems to me they would both lose, but she has shown an emotional, easily riled side it seems. She would probably lose worse. If that is possible.
Post by: The Annoyed Man on April 27, 2008, 06:32:05 AM
It'd be the first time someone's soul was devoured on primetime television.
I'll DVR it.
That'll be the most uploaded and viewed clip on YouTube ever! I'll DVR it.
Post by: Werewolf on April 27, 2008, 06:52:47 AM
Hillary would chew him up and spit him out in any unrehearsed conversation between the two.
Post by: K Frame on April 27, 2008, 07:21:38 AM
Good comeback answer, though, to the effect of "we should be talking to the voters, not each other."
Post by: Manedwolf on April 27, 2008, 07:46:25 AM
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 27, 2008, 10:38:21 AM
She has shown an emotional, easily riled side it seems.
You can say that again.
Post by: El Tejon on April 27, 2008, 11:33:16 AM
Post by: Glock Glockler on April 27, 2008, 12:15:34 PM
Post by: Matthew Carberry on April 27, 2008, 12:50:20 PM
Not challenging, just want to read about it and get the details.
That's too much comment to go uncited.
Post by: De Selby on April 27, 2008, 08:25:20 PM
Oratorical skills and debating skills don't really have much in common.
They do when the debate is conducted orally-the tool you use to make the debate is oratory.
I believe Iain has his finger on the issue here.
Post by: Matthew Carberry on April 27, 2008, 09:30:18 PM
Oratorical skills and debating skills don't really have much in common.
They do when the debate is conducted orally-the tool you use to make the debate is oratory.
I believe Iain has his finger on the issue here.
I think he's remarking that the ability to give, say, a good fireside chat does not necessarily mean you also possess the very different skill set to "win" in an active argument.
Forensics versus Oratory.
Post by: K Frame on April 28, 2008, 05:46:12 AM
I've seen ferocious debaters who zero oratorical skills, and I've seen people who have incredible oratorical skills with zero debating ability.
To find an individual with highly developed abilities in both arenas is extremely rare.
A good example is Winston Churchill.
Post by: Waitone on April 28, 2008, 05:42:10 PM
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 28, 2008, 08:08:32 PM
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Hillary? She's just Hillary. Who knows what you'll get.
I know enough that I'd be wearing ear-plugs.
Post by: cordex on April 30, 2008, 04:45:58 AM
I just thought it was interesting to hear someone coming from a strong Republican background, speaking to Republicans and refusing to put down one of the primary Democrat contenders. Must be some of that "spittle flying character assassination" that Paddy sees so much of on the right ...