Post by: Manedwolf on May 06, 2008, 04:24:59 AM
Watch the whole thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy4sWMIPeQc
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on May 06, 2008, 04:36:01 AM
Sounds like an MPAA/RIAA concession made in the UK.
A license to even own a PC/DVD-RAM/DVR/VCR.
I guess I'd equate it to our FCC licenses for FRS/GMRS radios. Silly how it doesn't move when the owner of the equipment moves. I'd never pay it.
Post by: El Tejon on May 06, 2008, 04:55:04 AM
Post by: RocketMan on May 06, 2008, 05:01:31 AM
Post by: Nitrogen on May 06, 2008, 05:43:00 AM
Yet another loss of freedom in the UK, but this one's been going on for ages. Today, teh TV license is about $300 US.
Post by: Manedwolf on May 06, 2008, 05:47:15 AM
Post by: The Annoyed Man on May 06, 2008, 06:31:25 AM
Oh, I've heard from people who have had the authorities after them with disbelieving incredulity that they DID NOT HAVE A TV. Everyone has a TV! They must be hiding it!
It's the same here. Fortunatly, all the can do is pretty much threaten you. I can have a tv blasting in full view of my door, and still claim "nope, no tivo here, now f**k off". Best thing is that they have no legal way to enter your home. If they try, you may treat them as any other intruder, and throw them out by force. Only suckers pay the license here. And old folks who belive they can actually track every tv set. They can't. I actually don't have a tv, but when I get one, I'm never going to pay the license...they can all go to hell. If I want leftist propaganda, I'll go to the nearest Communist party office and gather some flyers.
Post by: Gewehr98 on May 06, 2008, 07:50:25 AM
They have vans that detect unlicensed television sets, in order to enforce the TV taxes.
Not cool.
Post by: Manedwolf on May 06, 2008, 07:53:36 AM
Post by: The Annoyed Man on May 06, 2008, 07:59:08 AM
I spent a lot of time in the London/Cambridge area.
They have vans that detect unlicensed television sets, in order to enforce the TV taxes.
Not cool.
The enforcers here supposedly have equipment that can see if you have a tv, but those things are of little use in an apartment complex. Computer screens would show up as well...
They have vans that detect unlicensed television sets, in order to enforce the TV taxes.
Not cool.
Post by: Gewehr98 on May 06, 2008, 08:12:07 AM
They're looking for the emissions from the television tuner sections, which by nature re-emit RF and IF signal via the internal oscillator circuits as part of their signal processing path. Those signals can be picked up fairly easily and triangulated. About the only way to mask it is to make your home a big Faraday cage - including shielding the antenna and power line.
That, in conjunction with the registration of televisions at the purchase point, is what gives the BBC their draconian authority.
Post by: Nitrogen on May 06, 2008, 09:47:49 AM
There shouldn't be any harmonics from those, then, right?
I'd just be wrapping my cable box, tuner card, etc, in a small faraday cage and I'd think that'd take care of it...
Post by: The Annoyed Man on May 06, 2008, 11:12:08 AM
It's not the screens they're looking for, that's a common misconception. LCD televisions don't emit cathode rays, either. "Noisy" flyback transformers are becoming a thing of the past as the world moves past CRT devices, but that's not the end of the story.
They're looking for the emissions from the television tuner sections, which by nature re-emit RF and IF signal via the internal oscillator circuits as part of their signal processing path. Those signals can be picked up fairly easily and triangulated. About the only way to mask it is to make your home a big Faraday cage - including shielding the antenna and power line.
That, in conjunction with the registration of televisions at the purchase point, is what gives the BBC their draconian authority.
Well, I know that here, their "readings", should they actually use that equipment, mean absolutly jack sh!t. I can deny having a tv until my nose grows long enough to poke out their eyes. Not a damn thing they can do about it. Should they try to force their way in, I can kick them out. They've got basically no authority here, which is as it should be. Bunch of bloody fascists they are...
They're looking for the emissions from the television tuner sections, which by nature re-emit RF and IF signal via the internal oscillator circuits as part of their signal processing path. Those signals can be picked up fairly easily and triangulated. About the only way to mask it is to make your home a big Faraday cage - including shielding the antenna and power line.
That, in conjunction with the registration of televisions at the purchase point, is what gives the BBC their draconian authority.
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on May 06, 2008, 11:21:08 AM
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I'd just be wrapping my cable box, tuner card, etc, in a small faraday cage and I'd think that'd take care of it...
It would require your AC power supply to also be put in the same cage with no input from the external world.
Also your cable input, too, I think.
Post by: Perd Hapley on May 06, 2008, 12:01:12 PM
Post by: The Annoyed Man on May 06, 2008, 12:23:15 PM
What are these Faraday cages, and where can I get one for my cat?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cagePost by: Perd Hapley on May 06, 2008, 01:07:16 PM
Post by: Sergeant Bob on May 06, 2008, 01:47:58 PM
Post by: Tallpine on May 06, 2008, 06:10:33 PM
I guess you could just put up an external antenna
Post by: freakazoid on May 06, 2008, 08:39:58 PM
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Post by: atomd on May 07, 2008, 05:41:08 AM
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TV Licensing's database of more than 28 million addresses is a critical part of enforcing the TV Licence. Typically, we'll send a number of letters to an unlicensed address, reminding occupants of the importance of being properly licensed and giving information on the many ways they can pay. We may also contact occupants by phone, asking whether a TV Licence is needed at the property. If there is no response, the address will be selected for a visit from an Enforcement Officer. Visits like this can provide TV Licensing with information on whether an address is unoccupied or derelict and whether there is a TV receiver on the premises. Visits can also result in evaders being caught. On average around 1,000 evaders are caught daily.
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You need a TV licence to use any television receiving equipment such as a TV set, set-top box, video or DVD recorder, computer or mobile phone to watch or record TV programmes as they are being shown on TV.
Wow...they've really got the bases covered.
Post by: Scout26 on May 07, 2008, 11:35:09 AM