Post by: Manedwolf on May 30, 2008, 09:16:47 AM
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Obama distances himself from another clergyman
By Associated Press | Friday, May 30, 2008 | http://www.bostonherald.com | 2008 Pres. Campaign
CHICAGO - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said Thursday that he was "deeply disappointed" by a supporters sermon at his church that mocked Hillary Rodham Clinton.
The Rev. Michael Pfleger, a Chicago activist, also apologized for last Sundays sermon at Obamas church, in which he said Clintons eyes welled with tears before the New Hampshire primary because she felt "entitled" to the Democratic nomination and because "theres a black man stealing my show."
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/2008/view.bg?articleid=1097556&format=text
Post by: longeyes on May 30, 2008, 09:58:48 AM
Post by: Angel Eyes on May 30, 2008, 10:22:08 AM
This is the same priest who publicly threatened to "snuff out" the owner of a local gun shop. Real nice guy.
Post by: Manedwolf on May 30, 2008, 10:28:41 AM
This is the same priest who publicly threatened to "snuff out" the owner of a local gun shop. Real nice guy.
Didn't that just prove why law-abiding people need gun shops?
Post by: Angel Eyes on May 30, 2008, 11:02:40 AM
This is the same priest who publicly threatened to "snuff out" the owner of a local gun shop. Real nice guy.
Didn't that just prove why law-abiding people need gun shops?
Of course it does. But the irony is lost on Pfleger and his ilk.
Post by: ilbob on May 30, 2008, 11:58:26 AM
This is the same priest who publicly threatened to "snuff out" the owner of a local gun shop. Real nice guy.
Post by: Manedwolf on May 30, 2008, 12:03:32 PM
This is the same priest who publicly threatened to "snuff out" the owner of a local gun shop. Real nice guy.
Because the Black Separatist Church has about as much to do with the traditional Catholic church as a Nation of Islam mosque has to do with an ordinary mosque?
Post by: Perd Hapley on May 30, 2008, 02:37:15 PM
Manedwolf, best thread title ever.
And his typical white grandmother must be awfully scared of that screaming black preacher, down there under the bus with her.
Post by: MechAg94 on May 30, 2008, 06:00:30 PM
He has yet to throw his doppelganger, the evil "white" Obama, under the bus and come forth as a totally redeemed, pure Uber-Black man.
He threw that guy under the bus years ago when he joined that church to further his career.
Post by: Regolith on May 31, 2008, 09:58:33 PM
Post by: Waitone on June 01, 2008, 03:59:43 AM
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 01, 2008, 05:08:45 AM
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Sen. Barack Obama said Saturday that he has resigned from the church where controversial sermons by his former pastor and other ministers created political headaches for his campaign.
He resigned? Odd choice of words.
Post by: longeyes on June 01, 2008, 05:44:19 AM
Anyway, the guy talks Christian but acts Marxist. Who's kidding whom?
Even in "resigning" Obama doesn't get it. He sees no problem with the UCC itself, only with us Red Meanies for bringing undesirable attention to the hateful madness therein. Always the victim he is willing to step aside for The Good of All of Us.
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No, Obama never really did exorcise "the white part" of himself. Nor did he integrate it. This is why he is what he is, a fractured and dangerous soul.
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 01, 2008, 10:09:56 AM
Even in "resigning" Obama doesn't get it. He sees no problem with the UCC itself, only with us Red Meanies for bringing undesirable attention to the hateful madness therein. Always the victim he is willing to step aside for The Good of All of Us.
Yup. If it weren't so insulting to our intelligence, it would be quite entertaining to track Obama's shifting positions on this subject.
First, Wright was a pastor, mentor, friend and campaign adviser. When his vitriolic statements first surfaced, he was a good man, who was being "taken out of context," and Obama could no more disown him than the whole black community. His assertions about "context" imply that Obama had looked at the context of the statements, in order to discover the true, and non-inflammatory meaning that we were all missing. Or maybe he was just assuming the context would exonerate Wright. Either way, he didn't care about the truth, and seemed to think the whole thing would blow over.
When Wright supplied additional context, and it was still inflammatory, Obama was forced to pretend that he didn't know much about his mentor, friend, campaign adviser and pastor of twenty long years, whose sermons he hadn't paid much attention to. And yes, he most certainly could and would disown him. And did so. Presumably, then, he was wrong (or lying) about the very strong identification between Wright and the "black community." Why, after Wright stepped down, the church was going to carry on with its good work under the "wonderful, young" pastor, Otis Moss. And, yes, those were Obama's words.
Now, with his church going full steam ahead with more hatred, racism and general craziness, Obama has thrown the rest of the church under the bus. (Is he then throwing the black community under the bus, or no?) Keep in mind that not long ago, Obama was praising the "wonderful work" of Trinity church, and assuring us that he holds to its "values."
Who are his handlers? Where are they? Or is there any way out of the mess Obama's gotten himself into, without looking like a liar who thinks we're all gullible boobs, or a complete idiot, or both?
Post by: anygunanywhere on June 01, 2008, 12:57:13 PM
http://www.policelink.com/news/26729-obama-uses-police-memorial-for-porta-potties
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PORTLAND, OR Police officers in Portland, Oregon, are still waiting for an apology from Barack Obama after campaign staffers of his recent rally in Portland, Oregon, setup porta potties directly on top of the Portland Police Memorial, which honors the agencys 25 fallen police officers.
The Obama rally drew a crowd of over 75,000 people.
Officer Thomas Brennan, who was working overtime at the rally, took a picture of the offending toilets, with the American flag still at half mast because of Police Officers Memorial Day, directly behind them. The local law enforcement memorial service had been held at the site only five days earlier.
Despite a large amount of open areas in the vicinity, the campaign staffers claimed the toilets were placed on the memorial for safety reasons to accommodate wheelchair access.
The Obama campaign has not responded to requests for an apology.
The Obama rally drew a crowd of over 75,000 people.
Officer Thomas Brennan, who was working overtime at the rally, took a picture of the offending toilets, with the American flag still at half mast because of Police Officers Memorial Day, directly behind them. The local law enforcement memorial service had been held at the site only five days earlier.
Despite a large amount of open areas in the vicinity, the campaign staffers claimed the toilets were placed on the memorial for safety reasons to accommodate wheelchair access.
The Obama campaign has not responded to requests for an apology.
If anyone besides BHO did this it would still be on the news.
Anygunanywhere
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 01, 2008, 01:53:10 PM
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Post by: longeyes on June 01, 2008, 05:54:24 PM
Post by: Tallpine on June 01, 2008, 05:57:28 PM
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 01, 2008, 06:40:20 PM
Must be a pretty big bus for all the room under it. Reverend Wright, the whole congregation, his grandmother, Hillary, the population of West Virginia, rural people clinging to guns, bitter white folks, and his father. I'm going to guess that his wife is next up on the cut list. She says too much for him to not throw her under there before too long.
You forgot Pfleger, or whatever his name is. And they still need room for William Ayers.
Post by: ilbob on June 02, 2008, 05:50:43 AM
This is the same priest who publicly threatened to "snuff out" the owner of a local gun shop. Real nice guy.
Because the Black Separatist Church has about as much to do with the traditional Catholic church as a Nation of Islam mosque has to do with an ordinary mosque?
Post by: Manedwolf on June 02, 2008, 06:00:48 AM
This is the same priest who publicly threatened to "snuff out" the owner of a local gun shop. Real nice guy.
Because the Black Separatist Church has about as much to do with the traditional Catholic church as a Nation of Islam mosque has to do with an ordinary mosque?
Yes? Race has nothing to do with a cause. That church is a cause, and a culture of racism. Doesn't matter what race the guy is...didn't you hear what he said? And the audience's approving response?
Never heard a Catholic priest talk like that anywhere else. They'd be told to leave immediately.
Post by: longeyes on June 02, 2008, 06:27:13 AM
Now it's Barack Obama and his Merry Pranksters.
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 02, 2008, 12:50:25 PM
Post by: yesitsloaded on June 02, 2008, 06:23:36 PM
Post by: Monkeyleg on June 02, 2008, 06:32:23 PM
When a candidate talks about his church, it's fair game.
Post by: yesitsloaded on June 02, 2008, 06:38:53 PM
Post by: Manedwolf on June 03, 2008, 04:19:13 AM
Think of how many people have been killed when political leaders have committed terrible acts while hiding behind a claimed religion.
Sandbox, yes. US, not so much.
Post by: Ben on June 03, 2008, 04:31:07 AM
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The priest involved is a white catholic priest.
Who interestingly sounds more ghetto than a rapper. Is he Vanilla Ice's dad or something? What is it with white people (it always seems to be suburban WASPs or Jerry Springer guests) who do the "black ghetto-speak" thing? The most irritating of all was that singer who played Will Smith's wingman in "Independence Day".
These people obviously did not grow up in the surroundings that would have naturally modified their speech patterns. They have to work at changing their native patterns. Do they truly believe it ingratiates them into "poor black society" or whatever demographic they're attempting to impress? It looks so obviously contrived and forced that it's ridiculous.
Post by: roo_ster on June 03, 2008, 06:06:48 AM
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The priest involved is a white catholic priest.
Who interestingly sounds more ghetto than a rapper. Is he Vanilla Ice's dad or something? What is it with white people (it always seems to be suburban WASPs or Jerry Springer guests) who do the "black ghetto-speak" thing? The most irritating of all was that singer who played Will Smith's wingman in "Independence Day".
These people obviously did not grow up in the surroundings that would have naturally modified their speech patterns. They have to work at changing their native patterns. Do they truly believe it ingratiates them into "poor black society" or whatever demographic they're attempting to impress? It looks so obviously contrived and forced that it's ridiculous.
urbandictionary.com can help:
wigger
Post by: Manedwolf on June 03, 2008, 06:08:37 AM
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The priest involved is a white catholic priest.
Who interestingly sounds more ghetto than a rapper. Is he Vanilla Ice's dad or something? What is it with white people (it always seems to be suburban WASPs or Jerry Springer guests) who do the "black ghetto-speak" thing? The most irritating of all was that singer who played Will Smith's wingman in "Independence Day".
These people obviously did not grow up in the surroundings that would have naturally modified their speech patterns. They have to work at changing their native patterns. Do they truly believe it ingratiates them into "poor black society" or whatever demographic they're attempting to impress? It looks so obviously contrived and forced that it's ridiculous.
urbandictionary.com can help:
wigger
Be warned that urbandictionary will set off most workplace firewall filters...
Post by: charby on June 03, 2008, 06:32:37 AM
Post by: longeyes on June 03, 2008, 08:40:07 AM
Post by: Manedwolf on June 06, 2008, 04:43:49 AM
He didn't mean what he said he didn't say he meant.
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Presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama did not rule out Palestinian sovereignty over parts of Jerusalem when he called for Israels capital to remain undivided, his campaign told The Jerusalem Post Thursday.
Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama addresses AIPAC Policy Conference 2008, Wednesday.
Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided, Obama declared Wednesday, to rousing applause from the 7,000-plus attendees at the American Israel Public Affairs Committee policy conference.
But a campaign adviser clarified Thursday that Obama believes Jerusalem is a final status issue, which means it has to be negotiated between the two parties as part of an agreement that they both can live with.
Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama addresses AIPAC Policy Conference 2008, Wednesday.
Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided, Obama declared Wednesday, to rousing applause from the 7,000-plus attendees at the American Israel Public Affairs Committee policy conference.
But a campaign adviser clarified Thursday that Obama believes Jerusalem is a final status issue, which means it has to be negotiated between the two parties as part of an agreement that they both can live with.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1212659672984&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
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Obama Clarifies Remarks on Jerusalem
Updated 9:10 p.m.
By Glenn Kessler
Facing criticism from Palestinians, Sen. Barack Obama acknowledged today that the status of Jerusalem will need to be negotiated in future peace talks, amending a statement earlier in the week that Jerusalem "must remain undivided."
Obama, during a speech Wednesday to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, a pro-israel lobbying group, had called for Jerusalem to become the site of the U.S. embassy, a frequent pledge for U.S. presidential candidates. (It is now in Tel Aviv.) But his statement that Jerusalem should be the undivided capital of Israel drew a swift rebuke from Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas.
"This statement is totally rejected," Abbas told reporters in Ramallah. "The whole world knows that holy Jerusalem was occupied in 1967 and we will not accept a Palestinian state without having Jerusalem as the capital of a Palestinian state."
Updated 9:10 p.m.
By Glenn Kessler
Facing criticism from Palestinians, Sen. Barack Obama acknowledged today that the status of Jerusalem will need to be negotiated in future peace talks, amending a statement earlier in the week that Jerusalem "must remain undivided."
Obama, during a speech Wednesday to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, a pro-israel lobbying group, had called for Jerusalem to become the site of the U.S. embassy, a frequent pledge for U.S. presidential candidates. (It is now in Tel Aviv.) But his statement that Jerusalem should be the undivided capital of Israel drew a swift rebuke from Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas.
"This statement is totally rejected," Abbas told reporters in Ramallah. "The whole world knows that holy Jerusalem was occupied in 1967 and we will not accept a Palestinian state without having Jerusalem as the capital of a Palestinian state."
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/06/05/obama_backtracks_on_jerusalem.html
Is that a new record for flip-flopping? What a freaking CLOWN! Also, apparently he did this due to "pressure" from the Palis. Preview of his foreign policy.
If he makes it into office, we and all our allies are completely screwed.
Post by: agricola on June 06, 2008, 05:34:11 AM
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 06, 2008, 07:58:11 PM
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The priest involved is a white catholic priest.
Who interestingly sounds more ghetto than a rapper. Is he Vanilla Ice's dad or something? What is it with white people (it always seems to be suburban WASPs or Jerry Springer guests) who do the "black ghetto-speak" thing? The most irritating of all was that singer who played Will Smith's wingman in "Independence Day".
These people obviously did not grow up in the surroundings that would have naturally modified their speech patterns. They have to work at changing their native patterns. Do they truly believe it ingratiates them into "poor black society" or whatever demographic they're attempting to impress? It looks so obviously contrived and forced that it's ridiculous.
I'm not sure about the people you're talking about, but I have seen a lot of white kids growing up in diverse neighborhoods (i.e., the crummy part of town where I live right now), for whom I think the ghetto-speak is not forced or unnatural. Some of them have seem to have more black than white friends, and probably spend a lot of time in black homes. Additionally, the pop culture makes that patois seem very cool and confident, so it doesn't seem that odd that kids in less-than-upscale neighborhoods would adopt it as they grow up.
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on June 07, 2008, 06:04:16 AM
we call em the grey boys there is another nastier term i reserve for face to face with one when you wanna force em
Post by: longeyes on June 08, 2008, 06:20:25 AM
We've been on a flight from reason and responsibility for decades, and Obama is the inevitable manifestation of magical thinking backed by the power of special interest groups like the teachers' unions. They raised two generations of American know-nothings and now they want the Presidency.
Post by: Ben on June 10, 2008, 05:04:12 AM
Modern Liberals, Whine Connoisseurs
An introductory class from Barack & Michelle Obama.
By Peter Schweizer
We now are down to two presidential candidates. One went to the Ivy League and Harvard Law School as a young man. The other spent years of his youth in a Vietnam Prisoner of War camp and suffered lifelong injuries. Guess which one whines more about his hardships?
Barack Obama is many things a senator, a gifted orator, and a charismatic figure. But hes also a whiner.
In recent months hes complained about the questions during the ABC News debate with Hillary Clinton because they were not to his liking and whined that the media coverage of McCain wasnt harsh enough. (Pretty rich coming from Obama.) He whines that scrutiny of his wifes statements are mean and low class and that media scrutiny of his connection to convicted felon Tony Rezko is unfair because he was poorly served by his staff. He claims he is a victim in the Rev. Wright controversy and that the black church is being harshly attacked. Then there is the non-whine whine in the NBC News debate, in which he said that Hillary Clinton has consistently sent out negative attacks on us, email, robo-calls, flyers, television ads, radio calls, and we havent whined about it&.
Michelle Obama whines about the burdens of paying for piano lessons and summer camp for the kids, and the paying off the student loans for her two Ivy League degrees. The salaries dont keep up with the cost of paying off the debt, she complained when they Obamas cleared half a million a year, so youre in your 40s, still paying off your debt at a time when you have to save for your kids. America is just downright mean, she whines and then tells an audience recently in Charlotte, N.C. that they (whoever that might be) were constantly changing the rules for the contest and that they are constantly trying to undermine her husband. They raise the bar. Raise the bar. Shift it to the side. Keep it just out of reach. Gee, isnt this about the delegate count?
But the Obamas penchant for whining didnt begin with the presidential campaign. Michelle Obama, in her Princeton undergraduate thesis titled Princeton-Educated Blacks and the Black Community , complains of further integration and/or assimilation into a white cultural and social structure that will only allow me to remain on the periphery of society; never becoming a full participant. Never mind that she just graduated from a prestigious Ivy League school. Barack Obama complains throughout his book Dreams From My Father about the slights, insults, and injustices he suffered. Not that there is anything dramatic. There were those two white friends who came to an all-black party and kept smiling a lot because they were uncomfortable. When they told him after I can see how it must be tough for you and at sometimes being the only black guys and all. This offends Obama, who writes, A part of me wanted to punch him right there. Obama complains about white mans rules, and how unjust things are, but cant really offer any difficulty or act of outright bigotry that happened to him. People were satisfied so long as you were courteous and smiled and made no sudden moves. Alas, the harsh light of oppression.
Barack Obama published this memoir of complaint just five years after leaving law school. Senator John McCain waited 25 years to write a book about the real-life horrors of life in a prisoner of war camp.
Many observers believe that Barack Obama secured the liberal base of the Democratic party because he was antiwar from the beginning. But I think its because he mastered the art of complaining and won over the Whine Caucus. Today the Democratic party is dominated by groups making claims of victim status blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Native Americans, unwed mothers, artists, pampered academics, environmental activists, the poor, the unemployed, animal rights activists, women, homosexuals. As Michael Crowley openly admits on Slate: What does define and unify the [Democratic] party is a sense of victimhood.
A wide body of research shows that modern liberals are much more likely to complain about things in their lives. Conservatives are more content with their lives. When asked How satisfied are you with life these days? Sixty-six percent of conservatives said very satisfied compared with only 46 percent of liberals. Conservatives are more likely to say they love their jobs (53 percent vs. 41 percent) and even enjoy their hobbies more (63 percent vs. 51 percent). When asked by the Social Capital Survey whether they were satisfied with their income, liberals were more than three times as likely to say not at all satisfied even when they earned the same as conservatives.
When it comes to something like housework, Democrats are much more likely to complain that the division of work in their home is unfair to me than Republicans. In fact, they are five times as likely to whine about it. Another study in The Journal of Applied Psychology found that feminist women do less housework than traditional women but complain more about it.
On a more serious note, researchers writing in The American Journal of Psychiatry and The Journal of Marriage and Family found that liberals are more likely to attempt suicide than conservatives.
Liberals are also more likely to whine that they are unhappy in their marriages and declare that their health is fair or poor than conservatives. Even when you control for income, these gaps exist. Unless you are willing to believe that certain illnesses afflict only certain political groups, something else is at work here.
Barack Obama understands the language of victimhood and uses it effectively. And victimhood has become a central tenant of modern liberalism. As Kenneth Minogue argues in his classic book The Liberal Mind, modern liberalism is completely wrapped up in suffering situations.
So as the campaign continues, get used to more acts of whining and complaining. Its part of modern liberalism. Wendy Kaminer understood this perfectly when she wrote in The Atlantic Monthly: Personally, I reserve the right to complain and even whine about whatever injustices are visited upon me bad haircuts, bad boyfriends, and bad reviews. I have always believed in complaining in one view, that makes me a liberal.
Peter Schweizer is author of Makers and Takers: Conservatives Work Harder, Feel Happier, Have Closer Families, Take Fewer Drugs, Give More Generously, Value Honesty More, Are Less Materialistic and Envious, Whine Less...and Even Hug Their Children More Than Liberals.
Post by: longeyes on June 10, 2008, 05:46:54 AM
The first step toward sobriety is to realize that Obama is neither gifted nor charismatic. Stop repeating the b.s. on B.O. He is just the collective projection of millions of psychologically maimed Americans who shouldn't be permitted anywhere near a voting booth.
Post by: MechAg94 on June 11, 2008, 11:33:14 AM
A big bus.
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/11/and-again-this-was-not-the-jim-johnson-i-knew/
Post by: Balog on June 11, 2008, 11:56:44 AM
We live in the Age of Justin Timberlake. We all need to do some soul-searching to know how we got here; that will tell us how we get out. But it's not just the lost loser kids fantasizing about thugs, pimps, and hos, it's the 60-year-old white men, educated, that I know who want to seem cool, hip, and young, and have half-succeeded by never really growing up. You could do that in the last forty years and get away with it.
We've been on a flight from reason and responsibility for decades, and Obama is the inevitable manifestation of magical thinking backed by the power of special interest groups like the teachers' unions. They raised two generations of American know-nothings and now they want the Presidency.
We've been on a flight from reason and responsibility for decades, and Obama is the inevitable manifestation of magical thinking backed by the power of special interest groups like the teachers' unions. They raised two generations of American know-nothings and now they want the Presidency.
Anyone got a link to the opening of Office Space where Michael Bolton is stuck in traffic?
I love that movie.....