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Title: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: Bob F. on June 09, 2008, 03:56:22 PM
Locking gas cap, of course, but read on!!

INFO FROM  A STATE TROOPER....PLEASE READ!!!!!



A woman said her son found his license plate missing so he called the

police to file a report. They told him people were stealing the plates

to get free gas. Given the rise in gas prices, people have taken to

stealing license plates, putting them on their car, then getting gas and

running. The gas station will have "your" license plate # and you could

be in trouble for "pump and run." Check your car periodically to be sure

you still have a plate. If you should find it missing, file a report

immediately!!! Keep an eye on your license plate! Make sure you always

know it's there! When the license plate is reported as the "drive off

vehicle", it's YOU they contact! Be aware!!!! Be aware of your license

plates, most of us never look to see  if the plates are there or not.

Stay safe!
Bob

Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: Mabs2 on June 09, 2008, 04:28:42 PM
That's why I weld all of mine to the car.
At night to prevent theft, I weld the car to the ground.
Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: Sergeant Bob on June 09, 2008, 04:32:18 PM
That's why I weld all of mine to the car.
At night to prevent theft, I weld the car to the ground.


 grin grin grin
But what do ya weld the ground to? grin
Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: PTK on June 09, 2008, 04:33:52 PM
The car. Duh.


 grin
Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: Manedwolf on June 09, 2008, 04:41:13 PM
Yeah, good luck with that.



They're on the catalytic converter heatshield, too.
Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: PTK on June 09, 2008, 04:42:37 PM
I knew I wasn't the only bastard to use security bolts on my truck... problem is, you can still just rip the plate off if you were to try hard enough. Stops the casual crook though.
Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: Nick1911 on June 09, 2008, 05:22:24 PM
Yeah, good luck with that.



They're on the catalytic converter heatshield, too.

Nice tamper-proof torex.  I prefer tri-wing myself.
Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: Gewehr98 on June 09, 2008, 05:23:57 PM
Pop-rivets on mine, baby. Wink
Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: Harold Tuttle on June 09, 2008, 06:31:00 PM
behind the plate is a claymore with a proximity fuse

i need to repaint my bumper again
Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 09, 2008, 06:37:22 PM
Yeah, good luck with that.



They're on the catalytic converter heatshield, too.


I got my tamper-proof torx set at Home Depot.  Where do you park your jalopy? 
Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: Manedwolf on June 09, 2008, 06:43:25 PM
Yeah, good luck with that.



They're on the catalytic converter heatshield, too.


I got my tamper-proof torx set at Home Depot.  Where do you park your jalopy? 

Crackheads and people who think "stealing gas on camera" is a good idea usually aren't bright enough to buy a set, if they even know what they are. Smiley
Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: 209 on June 09, 2008, 09:14:13 PM
Yep, the old stolen reg plate trick. Of course, as there are more and more drive-aways, more gas stations are doing away with the pump-and-pay.  If you aren't using a credit card, you go in and prepay with cash.

It hasn't started up a lot yet, but we'll be seeing more siphoning going on soon.  Be careful where you park.
Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: Leatherneck on June 09, 2008, 11:53:00 PM
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but we'll be seeing more siphoning going on soon.
Some aren't even bothering to try to defeat the anti-siphon check valves in newer vehicles. They're just punching a hole in the bottom of the tank and draining what they can take and running. SUVs are particular targets.

TC
Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: Firethorn on June 10, 2008, 02:27:39 AM
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but we'll be seeing more siphoning going on soon.
Some aren't even bothering to try to defeat the anti-siphon check valves in newer vehicles. They're just punching a hole in the bottom of the tank and draining what they can take and running. SUVs are particular targets.

TC

Makes me want to hook up a sparkler to the bottom...
Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: LadySmith on June 10, 2008, 02:34:09 AM
I don't recall ever seeing a pump-before-paying gas station out here.
The grapevine around these parts is saying parking lots, both public and private, are getting hit badly by siphoners. Stealing radios and such has now become an afterthought.
I took my car to the shop yesterday and noticed the majority of the cars parked outside had their fuel doors open and the gas caps were missing.
Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: Jamisjockey on June 10, 2008, 02:55:02 AM
Locking gas cap, of course, but read on!!

INFO FROM  A STATE TROOPER....PLEASE READ!!!!!

That's enough for me to call bs there.....anytime the title is "please read"....someone made it up.

Oh, and around here, all pumps are prepay or CC pay at the pump.
Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: Bob F. on June 10, 2008, 03:31:36 AM
Most stations around here are pre-pay or CC and have been for some time. I'd heard of 'em punching holes and draining. Had 4 or 5 arrested last month for strealing catalitic converters and , I think, 2 killed in about the past month try to steal copper.

JJ: I reprinted the e-mail as received, no idea where it originated. Probably didn't come from a state trooper, although the WVSP are pretty open and willing to give tips. I've often thought that any reasonably intelligent crook should steal and switch tags, would make staying undetected a lot easier.
Still don't pay much attention to my plates. I'll have to look into the Torx.

Bob
Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: Jamisjockey on June 10, 2008, 03:45:53 AM
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JJ: I reprinted the e-mail as received, no idea where it originated.

There was your first mistake!!  Most of these emails originate from some obscure basement and begin circulating as fact.  If its titled "please read" or "forward to 10 of your best friends" I'll delete it offhand  grin

Fact is crooks have been stealing plates for a long time.  Nothing new. 

The only thing I'm worried about anyone stealing gas from is my new boat.  125 gallon tank....if someone were able to drain the whole thing....$525 if premium is used as reccomended.
Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: Manedwolf on June 10, 2008, 04:01:25 AM
I don't recall ever seeing a pump-before-paying gas station out here.
The grapevine around these parts is saying parking lots, both public and private, are getting hit badly by siphoners. Stealing radios and such has now become an afterthought.
I took my car to the shop yesterday and noticed the majority of the cars parked outside had their fuel doors open and the gas caps were missing.

All the stations here are now pay-first/pay at pump with creditcard or speedpass. A year or so ago, most let you pay after pumping. They have letters of apology on the pumps because of the number of drive-offs.

Unsurprisingly, most of the people caught for repeated drive-offs were coming up from Lawrence, MA, a place that would be improved by bulldozing it.
Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: BryanP on June 10, 2008, 04:02:04 AM
Every gas station I know of now requires that you pre-pay for gas. 
Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: cosine on June 10, 2008, 04:08:49 AM
Most places around here still let you pay afterwards, if you're paying inside the store.
Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: taurusowner on June 10, 2008, 04:13:20 AM
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but we'll be seeing more siphoning going on soon.
Some aren't even bothering to try to defeat the anti-siphon check valves in newer vehicles. They're just punching a hole in the bottom of the tank and draining what they can take and running. SUVs are particular targets.

TC

Makes me want to hook up a sparkler to the bottom...
Because blowing up your vehicle is so much better than replacing the gas tank  laugh
Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: cosine on June 10, 2008, 04:16:11 AM
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but we'll be seeing more siphoning going on soon.
Some aren't even bothering to try to defeat the anti-siphon check valves in newer vehicles. They're just punching a hole in the bottom of the tank and draining what they can take and running. SUVs are particular targets.

TC

Makes me want to hook up a sparkler to the bottom...
Because blowing up your vehicle is so much better than replacing the gas tank  laugh

It looks cooler anyway...  grin
Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: Balog on June 10, 2008, 04:32:15 AM
Blowing up your car would suck. Blowing up the thief on the other hand......
Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: PTK on June 10, 2008, 04:59:26 AM
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Lawrence, MA, a place that would be improved by bulldozing it.

Hey, I have family there!





...not that I'm disagreeing, mind you.  grin
Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: Balog on June 10, 2008, 05:37:46 AM
Quote from: MW
Unsurprisingly, most of the people caught for repeated drive-offs were coming up from Lawrence, MA, a place that would be improved by bulldozing it.

FTFY
Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: Bob F. on June 10, 2008, 06:10:47 AM
So I shouldn't tell people to pay attention to their plates because "everybody" knows about it? Maybe I just know a lot more clueless people than my esteemed APS colleauges. Sis comes to mind.

Bob
Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: Hawkmoon on June 10, 2008, 06:18:26 AM
When in doubt:

http://www.snopes.com/fraud/autos/gastheft.asp
Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: The Annoyed Man on June 10, 2008, 06:52:33 AM
One of our customers had 65 gallons of diesel(@ $4.75ish/gallon) drained out of her truck as it sat in our (GMC dealership) lot overnight last week.The thieves didn't get the stuff in the trucks' tanks.They drained the aux.tank mounted in the bed.Other (construction) customers are reporting the same kinds of thing.Some are even pulling construction equipment off the job & taking them back to the barn overnight.The extra loss of production is cheaper than the hassle of buying & hauling extra fuel to the job site each day.
It's gonna get a lot worse.
Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: Gewehr98 on June 10, 2008, 08:54:39 AM
Depends where you are, I guess.  All of the stations in my neck of the woods allow one to pump first, then pay inside. 

I almost wish somebody would siphon my gas tank, just to see how far they got with the stuff in their vehicle before it seized up.   grin
Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: The Annoyed Man on June 10, 2008, 10:53:03 AM
I call BS on the OP.  Gas thieves either cover or remove license plates if they do anything at all.  Just more fodder for the already paranoid.
Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: AmbulanceDriver on June 10, 2008, 11:02:21 AM
I know an anecdote does not a crime spree make, but we had this exact situation described in the OP happen here in town today.   I work up at a 911 center, and a gas station called in to report a no-pay.  They ran the plates from the vehicle, only to find out that the plates had been reported stolen a couple hours earlier....  And they were taken some time overnight.  Did they steal the plates just to do a no-pay?  who knows.  but they were definitely a factor in this particular crime.
Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on June 10, 2008, 11:19:15 AM
unless the theives are taking plates from the same make/model and color of the car, i wouldn't worry to much.

i would think that siphoning gas would be easier then running from gas stations. but, then again, i'm not a criminal, so who knows.
Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: charby on June 10, 2008, 11:22:51 AM
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Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!

The only alert I have is the fact my extra money each month has gotten smaller. $4.04 a gallon here for regular unleaded (87 octane non ethanol), $72.00 is what a fillup is going to cost me. In 2002 it would have cost $22.00.





Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: Manedwolf on June 10, 2008, 11:51:12 AM
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Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!

The only alert I have is the fact my extra money each month has gotten smaller. $4.04 a gallon here for regular unleaded (87 octane non ethanol), $72.00 is what a fillup is going to cost me. In 2002 it would have cost $22.00.

If they put those profanity-ticket things from Demolition Man on gas pumps, they'd make a fortune.
Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: Dope on June 10, 2008, 11:54:47 AM
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Unsurprisingly, most of the people caught for repeated drive-offs were coming up from Lawrence, MA, a place that would be improved by bulldozing it.

Agreed.

Dope
Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: charby on June 10, 2008, 12:08:42 PM
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Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!

The only alert I have is the fact my extra money each month has gotten smaller. $4.04 a gallon here for regular unleaded (87 octane non ethanol), $72.00 is what a fillup is going to cost me. In 2002 it would have cost $22.00.

If they put those profanity-ticket things from Demolition Man on gas pumps, they'd make a fortune.

Shush! Don't give any tax loving nanny controlling liberals any ideas.

Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: Manedwolf on June 10, 2008, 12:27:54 PM
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Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!

The only alert I have is the fact my extra money each month has gotten smaller. $4.04 a gallon here for regular unleaded (87 octane non ethanol), $72.00 is what a fillup is going to cost me. In 2002 it would have cost $22.00.

If they put those profanity-ticket things from Demolition Man on gas pumps, they'd make a fortune.

Shush! Don't give any tax loving nanny controlling liberals any ideas.

True, true...I've just never heard so much.

SUV parks, guy pays, locks pump on, goes in to get a drink. Comes back, looks at total, "HOLY F S F GD F-ING F!" It was like Jay in one of the Jay and Silent Bob movies. I'm surprised the gasoline didn't ignite from the sheer level of profanity. cheesy
Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 10, 2008, 02:37:00 PM
I got my tamper-proof torx set at Home Depot.  Where do you park your jalopy? 
Crackheads and people who think "stealing gas on camera" is a good idea usually aren't bright enough to buy a set, if they even know what they are. Smiley


I knows it.  Just messin' with ya.  Since I got the tools, I might as well look into that for my own rides. 
Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: lupinus on June 10, 2008, 02:55:32 PM
side note I refuse to put a locking cap on my car.

Personally, I'd rather them just steal the damn gas the easy way then stealing my gas by cutting/ripping the filler neck or punching a hole in my gas tank.
Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: Firethorn on June 11, 2008, 04:20:14 AM
SUV parks, guy pays, locks pump on, goes in to get a drink. Comes back, looks at total, "HOLY F S F GD F-ING F!" It was like Jay in one of the Jay and Silent Bob movies. I'm surprised the gasoline didn't ignite from the sheer level of profanity. cheesy

That's another thing you don't want to do today; I've read that 'pump stealing' is on the rise as well.  If you leave your pump, you can expect somebody to pull up, pull the pump out of your vehicle and use it to fill up theirs before putting back in yours.
Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: Manedwolf on June 11, 2008, 04:25:29 AM
SUV parks, guy pays, locks pump on, goes in to get a drink. Comes back, looks at total, "HOLY F S F GD F-ING F!" It was like Jay in one of the Jay and Silent Bob movies. I'm surprised the gasoline didn't ignite from the sheer level of profanity. cheesy

That's another thing you don't want to do today; I've read that 'pump stealing' is on the rise as well.  If you leave your pump, you can expect somebody to pull up, pull the pump out of your vehicle and use it to fill up theirs before putting back in yours.

The hose is not that long. Huh?
Title: Re: Gas price side effect; ALERT!!!
Post by: Firethorn on June 11, 2008, 05:03:27 AM
The hose is not that long. Huh?

When I had my car, the hoses were long enough to stretch to the other side of the car, I didn't need to have the recepticle facing the pump.  Was really useful when there were long lines, as my primary gas station is one way only. 

If nothing else, they're long enough to stretch to the other side of the island, especially if the thief parks close.