Post by: mtnbkr on June 11, 2008, 02:06:42 AM
Chris
Post by: gunsmith on June 11, 2008, 03:46:51 AM
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because I think you should have the stones to not hide from the person or organization you're attacking,
I wouldn't ever protest scientology, unless I was anon.
I do not trust them to fight fair.
I used to ride by a "carp" table on my bike in the 1980's (carp was a moonie org) right after Progressive Jim Jones and his debacle, I would yell
at them as I was driving by and they had customers (college students)
I would yell "Reverend Moon is the next Jim Jones" and ask them if they had "any koolaide"
After a week they replaced the college age kids they had at the table with some goons, they were big enough to kick my backside and totally demonic enough to do it and they tried.
I was lucky they didn't harm me, it wasn't a lack of trying on their part.
There used to be an org called "Cult Awareness Network" that tried to help victims and families of cults, Scientology sued , took over their office and phones and simply told people that Scientology isn't a cult.
Scientology has also invaded the "recovery" movement starting a for profit org called "narcanon" which is confusing people with "narcotics anonymous" which is an offshoot of AA .
Many people probably think NA is the same as narcanon which was totally evil trick of Scientology to pull.
I'm sure that Scientology is infiltrating "anonymous" and that anonymous will slowly start telling people how wonderful Scientology really is.
Post by: Balog on June 11, 2008, 03:57:15 AM
Post by: Manedwolf on June 11, 2008, 03:59:45 AM
Post by: Dntsycnt on June 11, 2008, 04:45:21 AM
I smell a comic book.
Post by: xavier fremboe on June 11, 2008, 07:34:53 AM
Mafia vs Scientology...
I smell a comic book.
I wonder what the Gambino Theta level is?
I smell a comic book.
Post by: The Annoyed Man on June 11, 2008, 09:11:31 AM
I know which side I'm on...
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on June 11, 2008, 09:28:34 AM
Post by: Balog on June 11, 2008, 11:38:31 AM
Post by: xavier fremboe on June 11, 2008, 11:40:23 AM
Ok it's been bugging me..... what the hell does "rickroll" mean?
You click on a link that looks interesting and get taken to a youtube video of Rick Astley singing "Never gonna give you up".
Post by: Balog on June 11, 2008, 11:42:32 AM
Ok it's been bugging me..... what the hell does "rickroll" mean?
You click on a link that looks interesting and get taken to a youtube video of Rick Astley singing "Never gonna give you up".But wasn't the OP about a buncha guys putting on silly masks and protesting or something? Was he using it as an analogy?
Post by: xavier fremboe on June 11, 2008, 11:43:28 AM
Ok it's been bugging me..... what the hell does "rickroll" mean?
You click on a link that looks interesting and get taken to a youtube video of Rick Astley singing "Never gonna give you up".But wasn't the OP about a buncha guys putting on silly masks and protesting or something? Was he using it as an analogy?
Post by: mtnbkr on June 11, 2008, 11:44:56 AM
Chris
Post by: mtnbkr on June 11, 2008, 11:45:07 AM
Post by: Iain on June 11, 2008, 12:01:11 PM
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How do you, ideologically speaking, defeat a crowd that is enthusiastically demanding that you "DO A BARREL ROLL! DO A BARREL ROLL!!" ?
I know way too many internet memes. I've saved the 'Oh ****. The internet is here" picture.
Post by: PTK on June 11, 2008, 02:57:24 PM
Post by: Mabs2 on June 11, 2008, 03:52:11 PM
But then again, they really didn't put any effort into anything here but annoying people.
Post by: MicroBalrog on June 11, 2008, 07:56:48 PM
Scientology DANGEROUS? Since when?
What PTK said.
There's many, many belief systems out there far more dangerous than Scientology. Yes, they've done some seriously screwed-up stuff. The scientology-fear-mongering campaign on the Internet however, is completely overrated.
Post by: nico on June 11, 2008, 08:30:16 PM
Post by: Balog on June 11, 2008, 08:31:54 PM
Post by: xavier fremboe on June 11, 2008, 09:53:39 PM
Scientology DANGEROUS? Since when?
Excellent. We have a new preclear. When shall we schedule the audit?
Post by: MicroBalrog on June 11, 2008, 09:56:03 PM
Scientology DANGEROUS? Since when?
Excellent. We have a new preclear. When shall we schedule the audit?Wonderful debating tactic.
Post by: xavier fremboe on June 12, 2008, 12:43:20 PM
Scientology DANGEROUS? Since when?
Excellent. We have a new preclear. When shall we schedule the audit?Wonderful debating tactic.
Post by: Bogie on June 12, 2008, 04:26:01 PM
Yes. That is my face.
Post by: MicroBalrog on June 12, 2008, 10:19:09 PM
Scientology DANGEROUS? Since when?
Excellent. We have a new preclear. When shall we schedule the audit?Wonderful debating tactic.
THey're really good at lawsuit *expletive deleted*it, and they're real idiots. But they're really low on my evil list, considering they do some good, too.
Post by: O.F.Fascist on June 12, 2008, 11:07:39 PM
THey're really good at lawsuit *expletive deleted*it, and they're real idiots. But they're really low on my evil list, considering they do some good, too.
Like what?
Post by: MicroBalrog on June 12, 2008, 11:29:40 PM
THey're really good at lawsuit *expletive deleted*it, and they're real idiots. But they're really low on my evil list, considering they do some good, too.
Like what?
Like opposing universal mental screening in the US, protecting freedom of religion (By funding high court suits for other NRMs across the globe, and challenging unreasonable involuntary commitment procedures down here in Israel. Just a few things.
Post by: gunsmith on June 13, 2008, 02:37:26 AM
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is narconon an affiliate/offshoot of synanon?
I have no idea. I do know I really have no faith in either, I have found AA works best for me.
There is a mod over at THR I've met who seems to have some kind of connection with Scientology, he is a very nice guy & I trust him, however
The ones I've met in San Francisco have the classic vacant cult look and I almost lost a good friend to them at a time she was very emotionally vulnerable.
Thank God she hates science fiction and had studied mysticism deeply as well as other Eastern traditions, when they got to the spaceships and stuff, she came to her senses.
I have read The Sufi's, by Idries Shah
The Upanishads, The Bible, The Koran, The Bhagavad Gita
& Zen and The Art Of Archery as well as Alan Watts.
When you have digested those kind of books (especially "The Sufi's" )
You really have to be wowed by more then Science Fiction, and I am a big fan of Sci Fi.
Back to Scientology, I have heard and read a bunch of stuff about them but aside from the one guy I know, it has been my personal dealings with them that incur fear and distrust.
I must add though that I was impressed by their reaction to 9-11-01 and that whole TV thing they did, very patriotic.
I just would hate to lose family and friends to them.