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Title: Obama and Heller
Post by: Ben on June 27, 2008, 06:09:38 AM
Obama a few months ago (DC gun ban is constitutional):
http://www.vutorch.com/blog/2008/06/video-obama-att.html

Obama Yesterday (DC Gun Ban was unconstitutional):
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/26/flip-flop-confirmed-obama-says-dc-gun-ban-went-beyond-constitutional-limits/#comment-1207762

Huh -- that's odd. It looks like he flip-flopped.
Title: Re: Obama and Heller
Post by: wmenorr67 on June 27, 2008, 06:13:07 AM
Not the first thing he has flipped flopped on and won't be the last.
Title: Re: Obama and Heller
Post by: charby on June 27, 2008, 06:26:06 AM
Waffles anyone?

Title: Re: Obama and Heller
Post by: wmenorr67 on June 27, 2008, 06:37:33 AM
Made me laugh but for other reasons that cannot be said on a "family" friendly board.
Title: Re: Obama and Heller
Post by: Manedwolf on June 27, 2008, 06:44:59 AM
Waffles anyone?


That isn't a waffle house. There's no fight going on outside.
Title: Re: Obama and Heller
Post by: wmenorr67 on June 27, 2008, 06:53:46 AM
They are too busy throwing up what they just ate from what they had seen inside.
Title: Re: Obama and Heller
Post by: longeyes on June 27, 2008, 07:52:26 AM
Anyone who thinks Obama has changed his position on guns is naive.  You can't have a leftist revolution with an armed opposition.

And Obama has another problem.  He can't get clear on the Second Amendment because the real issue with RKBA takes us to uncomfortable cultural issues that no one wants to touch.
Title: Re: Obama and Heller
Post by: old school on June 27, 2008, 08:38:56 AM
Waffles anyone?



Obama is at the grille making the waffles and Mc Cain is in the restroom kissing the behind of the lobbyist and religious right.
Title: Re: Obama and Heller
Post by: Dannyboy on June 27, 2008, 09:43:02 AM
Waffles anyone?



Obama is at the grille making the waffles and Mc Cain is in the restroom kissing the behind of the lobbyist and religious right.

So, I guess you don't consider unions to be special interest groups either. 
Title: Re: Obama and Heller
Post by: freakazoid on June 27, 2008, 10:01:05 AM
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You can't have a leftist revolution with an armed opposition.

Just about all "leftists", as in communists, socialists, anarchists, believe in the RKBA. We can't have our revolution without arms, Tongue

Does anyone actually believe that Obama would ever be for that right?
Title: Re: Obama and Heller
Post by: Manedwolf on June 27, 2008, 10:02:20 AM
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You can't have a leftist revolution with an armed opposition.

Just about all "leftists", as in communists, socialists, anarchists, believe in the RKBA. We can't have our revolution without arms, Tongue

Does anyone actually believe that Obama would ever be for that right?

He's for the elite having weapons, of course. He wants to ban concealed carry for all but police and military.

The masses would just shoot themselves or each other, they can't be trusted with guns. Or worse, they might shoot at the elites, not realizing that the elites have all their best interests in mind.
Title: Re: Obama and Heller
Post by: Standing Wolf on June 27, 2008, 10:11:52 AM
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You can't have a leftist revolution with an armed opposition.

Precisely!

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He's for the elite having weapons, of course. He wants to ban concealed carry for all but police and military.

The police, military, and his personal bodyguards, of course.
Title: Re: Obama and Heller
Post by: El Tejon on June 28, 2008, 03:30:41 AM
Because Barry is a liar.

Look, guys, he is a committed Socialist.  Socialists repeatedly state that lying to further the cause of socialism is morality in practice.  Government is their God, and anything done in its service is allowed.
Title: Re: Obama and Heller
Post by: Nitrogen on June 28, 2008, 04:32:04 AM
Anyone who thinks Obama has changed his position on guns is naive.  You can't have a leftist revolution with an armed opposition.

And Obama has another problem.  He can't get clear on the Second Amendment because the real issue with RKBA takes us to uncomfortable cultural issues that no one wants to touch.

s/Obama/McCain

I love how Obama changes his mind, and nobody believes him, yet mccain changes his mind and people have no problem believing that.

Title: Re: Obama and Heller
Post by: freakazoid on July 02, 2008, 08:53:50 AM
Proof that communists/anarchists, want people to be able to have firearms, http://www.revleft.com/vb/gun-regulation-t82656/index.html?t=82656

The current poll results

Buying a gun should have no restrictions. Pay and leave.                                                       20       33.90%
Guns should have light restrictions (Waiting periods and tests). All weapons should be availible.    27        45.76%
Guns should have light restrictions (Waiting periods and tests). Assault weapons are prohibited.    4         6.78%
Guns should be heavily monitored. Arms should be directly regulated by the government.              4         6.78%
Only the military and police should be armed.                                                                         4        6.78%


Cheesy Whoever voted for the last three have me worried.
Title: Re: Obama and Heller
Post by: Manedwolf on July 02, 2008, 09:24:35 AM
Waiting periods are not a "light" restriction! They're stupid and a hassle!

Thankfully, we don't have them here. Low crime, too, funny that...
Title: Re: Obama and Heller
Post by: freakazoid on July 02, 2008, 09:33:55 AM
It seems all who have voted on the second one didn't do so because of waiting periods, but more on things to make sure insane people or some sort of history of violence don't get there hands on them. I voted for the first one, Smiley
Title: Re: Obama and Heller
Post by: Balog on July 02, 2008, 11:44:30 AM
Well, if a poll on a communist site thinks so!   rolleyes
Title: Re: Obama and Heller
Post by: Scout26 on July 02, 2008, 04:15:01 PM
I thought most votes taken by communists ended up with the right answer/person getting 100% or thereabouts..... rolleyes
Title: Re: Obama and Heller
Post by: Balog on July 02, 2008, 04:27:54 PM
Title: Re: Obama and Heller
Post by: Bigjake on July 02, 2008, 05:02:04 PM
Because Barry is a liar.

Look, guys, he is a committed Socialist. Socialists repeatedly state that lying to further the cause of socialism is morality in practice.  Government is their God, and anything done in its service is allowed.

funny how closely related Socialism and Islam work in practice....


Balog, very funny, way to make Dogfish Head IPA go through my nasal passages bro.  cool
Title: Re: Obama and Heller
Post by: Dntsycnt on July 02, 2008, 05:07:41 PM
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funny how closely related Socialism and Islam any religion work in practice....

I agree.

Great cat picture.
Title: Re: Obama and Heller
Post by: Bigjake on July 02, 2008, 05:14:22 PM
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funny how closely related Socialism and Islam any religion work in practice....

I agree.

Great cat picture.

Show me in The Bible where it says lying to people not believers is OK if it furthers Christianity...(hint, don't bother looking, it's not in there)
Title: Re: Obama and Heller
Post by: charby on July 02, 2008, 06:56:45 PM
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funny how closely related Socialism and Islam any religion work in practice....

I agree.

Great cat picture.

Show me in The Bible where it says lying to people not believers is OK if it furthers Christianity...(hint, don't bother looking, it's not in there)

Matthew 22:21
Title: Re: Obama and Heller
Post by: freakazoid on July 02, 2008, 08:08:33 PM
I knew it! The bukkit didn't simply go missing, it was horded by Capitalist Cat,  laugh ROFL You wins at teh internetz

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funny how closely related Socialism and Islam work in practice....

??

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Well, if a poll on a communist site thinks so!   rolleyes

What are you implying?
Title: Re: Obama and Heller
Post by: Headless Thompson Gunner on July 02, 2008, 08:49:06 PM
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funny how closely related Socialism and Islam any religion work in practice....

I agree.

Great cat picture.

Show me in The Bible where it says lying to people not believers is OK if it furthers Christianity...(hint, don't bother looking, it's not in there)

Matthew 22:21

What does that verse have to do with lying to nonbelievers to further Christianity???
Title: Re: Obama and Heller
Post by: charby on July 03, 2008, 05:00:20 AM
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funny how closely related Socialism and Islam any religion work in practice....

I agree.

Great cat picture.

Show me in The Bible where it says lying to people not believers is OK if it furthers Christianity...(hint, don't bother looking, it's not in there)

Matthew 22:21

What does that verse have to do with lying to nonbelievers to further Christianity???

It was the closest thing I could find to a lying government being ok.
Title: Re: Obama and Heller
Post by: Regolith on July 03, 2008, 03:21:20 PM
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Well, if a poll on a communist site thinks so!   rolleyes

What are you implying?

That your poll is a bit unscientific, given its extremely small sample size and its limited sample pool.  I know a few communists who believe in the RKBA, but I also know a lot more that don't.  Granted, my anecdotal evidence isn't scientific either, but to say that communists are blanketly in support of the RKBA is not borne out by any facts that I know of.