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Title: Rambo 2008
Post by: old school on June 30, 2008, 04:32:33 PM

My daughter and I watched Rambo 2008 last night. It was brutally graphic. They made this one extra messy. It was gross enough to knock the romance out of a soldier of fortune subscriber. Much of the gore was close up camera shots of people being hit by 50 caliber machine gun fire. It depicted their head just liquifying when hit and limbs being sheered off. Is this really what happens when a human or animal is hit by a 50 cal?

Title: Re: Rambo 2008
Post by: Boomhauer on June 30, 2008, 04:39:39 PM

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It was gross enough to knock the romance out of a soldier of fortune subscriber. Much of the gore was close up camera shots of people being hit by 50 caliber machine gun fire. It depicted their head just liquifying when hit and limbs being sheered off.

EXCELLENT!

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Is this really what happens when a human or animal is hit by a 50 cal?

Something tells me this depiction might be on the order of ".45ACP will blow a hole big enough in a man to toss a cat through"

I think the .50 cal will take off a good portion of a head, though.

Title: Re: Rambo 2008
Post by: Headless Thompson Gunner on June 30, 2008, 04:45:54 PM

It's a Rambo movie.  What did you expect?

Title: Re: Rambo 2008
Post by: 41magsnub on June 30, 2008, 04:48:02 PM

Quote from: Headless Thompson Gunner on June 30, 2008, 03:45:54 PM

It's a Rambo movie.  What did you expect?

Amen, you don't go a Rambo movie for hugs, puppies, and unicorns.

Title: Re: Rambo 2008
Post by: old school on June 30, 2008, 04:53:18 PM

I have no class.  That said, kind sir, who has been on this forum a lot longer than I, and a lot longer than I am going to be allowed to stay if I continue to show immature and childish behavior,

Of course it's a Rambo movie. It's in the title.
My point was, this one far more graphic than any of the previous Rambo movies. If you see the movie, you will see what I mean.
Do the 50 cal military machine guns use the same bullet as the 50 bmg?

Title: Re: Rambo 2008
Post by: 41magsnub on June 30, 2008, 05:06:36 PM

Quote from: old school on June 30, 2008, 03:53:18 PM

Captain obvious? is that you?
Of course it's a Rambo movie. It's in the title.
My point was, this one far more graphic than any of the previous Rambo movies. If you see the movie, you will see what I mean.
Do the 50 cal military machine guns use the same bullet as the 50 bmg?

BMG = Browning Machine Gun so yep

Title: Re: Rambo 2008
Post by: Boomhauer on June 30, 2008, 05:07:43 PM

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Do the 50 cal military machine guns use the same bullet as the 50 bmg?

Of course. The M2HB is chambered in .50BMG (and always has been)

.50 Browning Machine Gun

also known as 12.7x99NATO

Title: Re: Rambo 2008
Post by: old school on June 30, 2008, 05:10:17 PM

I bought a round at the last gun show. I have it in my gun cabinet just because it is so impressive. Makes my .308 look like a rimfire.

Title: Re: Rambo 2008
Post by: never_retreat on June 30, 2008, 05:25:38 PM

I saw the movie also, I also thought they had the gore knob turned up to far.
Yes the 50 bmg will remove a head or limb(i've seen some photos, no I don't think it would liquidfie like in the movie.

Title: Re: Rambo 2008
Post by: French G. on June 30, 2008, 05:31:44 PM

I especially liked the realistic heavy weapons effects like shoot the cab of a truck head-on with a .50 and everyone sitting in the back turns into mist and chunks. I also liked that the movie was attempting to call attention to a human rights tragedy that most leftists in this country have never even heard of.

Title: Re: Rambo 2008
Post by: Manedwolf on June 30, 2008, 05:32:13 PM

Movie blood squibs are often something like a plastic baggie or bubble filled with either corn syrup or Methocel, thinned a bit, and colored with red and blue dyes to the correct color.

Methocel is used for a lot of slow-motion shots because it splatters so well (it's also used for slime, alien drool and the like), but corn syrup sticks to things more like realistic blood. They'll also just add in CG blood later, too.

Oh, yeah, and sea sponge chunks soaked in red make good organ bits, as do pieces of leather soaked in a dyed glycerin solution to make them slippery. They'll be thrown at actors and slip off, leaving red behind, for "Eww, I got hit with gore" moments.

Title: Re: Rambo 2008
Post by: Bogie on June 30, 2008, 05:50:50 PM

Yup... The sheet metal in those trucks wouldn't even hardly slow a round like that down... Or a .223 for that matter...
 

Title: Re: Rambo 2008
Post by: old school on June 30, 2008, 05:56:37 PM

Quote from: Bogie on June 30, 2008, 04:50:50 PM

Yup... The sheet metal in those trucks wouldn't even hardly slow a round like that down... Or a .223 for that matter...
 

Man, that is always the most amusing part about the movies. I can't say how many movie scenes I have laughed at when a guy hides behind an empty 55 gallon drum or a sofa in a gun fight.

Title: Re: Rambo 2008
Post by: wmenorr67 on June 30, 2008, 08:15:35 PM

I have talked to guys that have shot people with a .50 and they all say the same thing.  When they hit the target all they saw was a pink mist.

Title: Re: Rambo 2008
Post by: Antibubba on June 30, 2008, 08:39:37 PM

How much CG was needed to keep Stallone from looking like a used up has been?  Or has the technology not advanced that far yet?     

Title: Re: Rambo 2008
Post by: freakazoid on June 30, 2008, 09:25:57 PM

Rambo kill counter, http://www.geekstir.com/rambostats.html

Title: Re: Rambo 2008
Post by: taurusowner on June 30, 2008, 09:53:33 PM

I'm watching it right now.  Not bad at all.  The CGI when the big WWII bomb went off was really bad.  But it's nice that they showed Rambo reloading the .50cal instead of having infinite ammo.

Title: Re: Rambo 2008
Post by: atomd on July 01, 2008, 05:59:01 AM

It was good to see a real action movie again. Almost all the true action movies these days are super low budget piles of crap with horrible acting and terrible special effects. I thought they did pretty well with Rambo. It was 99% mindless gory violence....just like it should be. It's Rambo!

Title: Re: Rambo 2008
Post by: Manedwolf on July 01, 2008, 06:10:56 AM

I still like the tribute to those in Lord of War.

"Can you bring me the gun of Rambo?"
"Part one, two, or three?"
"I have only seen part one."

Title: Re: Rambo 2008
Post by: Racehorse on July 01, 2008, 06:49:17 AM

This thread reminds me. Has anyone here seen Son of Rambow? I thought it was a great movie.

Title: Re: Rambo 2008
Post by: mtnbkr on July 01, 2008, 06:57:15 AM

I thought First Blood was a good movie until I read the book.  Very different story in the book...

Chris

Title: Re: Rambo 2008
Post by: K Frame on July 01, 2008, 07:07:18 AM

Rambo hitting someone with a .50 BMG...

Title: Re: Rambo 2008
Post by: roo_ster on July 01, 2008, 07:45:15 AM

Quote from: mtnbkr on July 01, 2008, 05:57:15 AM

I thought First Blood was a good movie until I read the book.  Very different story in the book...

Chris

Yep, the book kinda precluded sequels.

Title: Re: Rambo 2008
Post by: mtnbkr on July 01, 2008, 08:39:02 AM

Quote from: jfruser on July 01, 2008, 06:45:15 AM

Quote from: mtnbkr on July 01, 2008, 05:57:15 AM

I thought First Blood was a good movie until I read the book.  Very different story in the book...

Chris

Yep, the book kinda precluded sequels.

Not only that, but the characters were very different.  Rambo WAS a drifter and Teasle wasn't the jerk he was in the movies.

Chris

Title: Re: Rambo 2008
Post by: freakazoid on July 01, 2008, 09:40:01 AM

Wasn't Rambo a drifter in the movie?

Title: Re: Rambo 2008
Post by: richyoung on July 01, 2008, 09:55:29 AM

Quote from: Avenger29 on June 30, 2008, 04:07:43 PM

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Do the 50 cal military machine guns use the same bullet as the 50 bmg?

Of course. The M2HB is chambered in .50BMG (and always has been)

.50 Browning Machine Gun

also known as 12.7x99NATO

If its Commie, its a 12.7mm, not .50 cal.  ANd from what I remember of the flick, it was actually a 14.5mm Heavy Machine Gun, which has exploding rounds available.

Title: Re: Rambo 2008
Post by: MechAg94 on July 01, 2008, 10:31:56 AM

I wasn't sure what kind of machine gun they were using.  He certainly did get a lot of shots off before he had to reload another ammo box.  They at least did make him reload. 

The only part I was curious about was the WWII bomb.  I thought they said it was a Tall Boy bomb.  I wasn't aware the British used those outside of Europe. 

Title: Re: Rambo 2008
Post by: cslinger on July 01, 2008, 11:12:09 AM

I liked the movie but also felt it was too gory for a Rambo flick.  Not that gory bothers me, it just didn't feel the same as the other Rambo's.  All in all decent flick.

Title: Re: Rambo 2008
Post by: mtnbkr on July 01, 2008, 11:44:42 AM

He was portrayed as a guy traveling from place to place visiting or looking for old friends.  In the book, he was just rambling around without purpose.

Chris

Title: Re: Rambo 2008
Post by: old school on July 01, 2008, 02:27:53 PM

Quote from: Manedwolf on July 01, 2008, 05:10:56 AM

I still like the tribute to those in Lord of War.

"Can you bring me the gun of Rambo?"
"Part one, two, or three?"
"I have only seen part one."

That was actually one of few movies that I enjoyed watching more than once. Cage really nailed that role.

Title: Re: Rambo 2008
Post by: freakazoid on July 01, 2008, 06:01:09 PM

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He was portrayed as a guy traveling from place to place visiting or looking for old friends.  In the book, he was just rambling around without purpose.

I thought he only looked for that one friend, after he found out he was dead he started just traveling wherever.