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Title: What can you do.....
Post by: Avalanche2082 on July 01, 2008, 09:05:35 AM
if say you are in a mall for instance and someone spits in your face and starts talking trash to your friend what can he or she do to the person is it assualt how do you show evidence?? Keep the saliva in a bag??? undecided What would happen to the person who spits and talks trash.
Title: Re: What can you do.....
Post by: K Frame on July 01, 2008, 09:08:46 AM
Witnesses.

Spitting on someone is part and parcel to unwanted physical contact... assault.
Title: Re: What can you do.....
Post by: Balog on July 01, 2008, 12:37:42 PM
Witnesses.

Spitting on someone is part and parcel to unwanted physical contact... assault.

Are you then legally allowed to use physical force to defend yourself? Inquiring minds (who get harassed by bums while waiting for the bus angry) want to know.
Title: Re: What can you do.....
Post by: Racehorse on July 01, 2008, 12:43:51 PM
Actually, if I remember right, there doesn't even have to be physical contact for assault. You just have to feel threatened.

from http://www.nolo.com/definition.cfm/Term/22542B6F-FEDB-450A-889A82A49EA50CEB/alpha/A/

assault

A crime that occurs when one person tries to physically harm another in a way that makes the person under attack feel immediately threatened. Actual physical contact is not necessary; threatening gestures that would alarm any reasonable person can constitute an assault. Compare battery.

battery

A crime consisting of physical contact that is intended to harm someone. Unintentional harmful contact is not battery, no mater how careless the behavior or how severe the injury. A fist fight is a common battery; being hit by a wild pitch in a baseball game is not.
Title: Re: What can you do.....
Post by: Balog on July 01, 2008, 12:45:22 PM
So a bum telling me he's gonna get all his "KKK prison buddies" and kill me is a green light to kick the *expletive deleted*it out of him? Man I wish I'd known that a couple weeks ago.....
Title: Re: What can you do.....
Post by: Racehorse on July 01, 2008, 12:48:53 PM
So a bum telling me he's gonna get all his "KKK prison buddies" and kill me is a green light to kick the *expletive deleted*it out of him? Man I wish I'd known that a couple weeks ago.....

Probably only if you have a reasonable expectation that he both can and will do it. But you'd probably still get in trouble. I believe the law would view calling the police as a more reasonable response.

It's a pity, I know. But maybe you could use some of this:

http://www.liquidass.com/

But then again, maybe a bum wouldn't even notice.
Title: Re: What can you do.....
Post by: RocketMan on July 01, 2008, 04:37:37 PM
Hey, Balog.  It's Seattle.  Bums are a protected class.  You'd be charged with a hate crime.
(I'm only being half sarcastic here.)
Title: Re: What can you do.....
Post by: Avalanche2082 on July 01, 2008, 05:57:12 PM
So is it all about witnesses. So if it word against word for an "assualt" say some lady comes up to my and grabs my lower region and threatens that if I don't come back later and whip it out she will shoot me and kill me dead, and there are no witnesses so how do I defend that to a police officer? Would I basically be screwed or is it up to a cop which person he believes if she says she did nothing of the sort? Or anything of some kind of assualt situation, is it really witnesses that make or break it. Plus what could/would really happen to the person who commited the assault.
Title: Re: What can you do.....
Post by: freakazoid on July 01, 2008, 06:13:21 PM
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So if it word against word for an "assualt" say some lady comes up to my and grabs my lower region and threatens that if I don't come back later and whip it out she will shoot me and kill me dead, and there are no witnesses so how do I defend that to a police officer?

Man where are you hanging out lol,  laugh
Title: Re: What can you do.....
Post by: Nitrogen on July 01, 2008, 06:43:12 PM
if say you are in a mall for instance and someone spits in your face and starts talking trash to your friend what can he or she do to the person is it assualt how do you show evidence?? Keep the saliva in a bag??? undecided What would happen to the person who spits and talks trash.

From personal experience, nothing.
Title: Re: What can you do.....
Post by: jamz on July 01, 2008, 07:18:43 PM
if say you are in a mall for instance and someone spits in your face and starts talking trash to your friend what can he or she do to the person is it assualt how do you show evidence?? Keep the saliva in a bag??? undecided What would happen to the person who spits and talks trash.

From personal experience, nothing.

and did it encourage you to keep spitting on people?  :p
Title: Re: What can you do.....
Post by: Nitrogen on July 01, 2008, 07:27:45 PM
if say you are in a mall for instance and someone spits in your face and starts talking trash to your friend what can he or she do to the person is it assualt how do you show evidence?? Keep the saliva in a bag??? undecided What would happen to the person who spits and talks trash.

From personal experience, nothing.

and did it encourage you to keep spitting on people?  :p

AHAHAH no.  I was spit ony called police, and nothing was done
Title: Re: What can you do.....
Post by: K Frame on July 01, 2008, 09:23:58 PM
Witnesses.

Spitting on someone is part and parcel to unwanted physical contact... assault.

Are you then legally allowed to use physical force to defend yourself? Inquiring minds (who get harassed by bums while waiting for the bus angry) want to know.

In this day and age, given the potential for fluid-borne pathogens, I'd say yes.
Title: Re: What can you do.....
Post by: wmenorr67 on July 01, 2008, 09:46:19 PM
if say you are in a mall for instance and someone spits in your face and starts talking trash to your friend what can he or she do to the person is it assualt how do you show evidence?? Keep the saliva in a bag??? undecided What would happen to the person who spits and talks trash.

An a$$whooping.
Title: Re: What can you do.....
Post by: Jamisjockey on July 02, 2008, 02:30:41 AM
if say you are in a mall for instance and someone spits in your face and starts talking trash to your friend what can he or she do to the person is it assualt how do you show evidence?? Keep the saliva in a bag??? undecided What would happen to the person who spits and talks trash.

An a$$whooping.

Amen.  I might be an apron wearing bitch....but somethings require my man card to get pulled out and used.