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Title: McCain Will Not Win Because....
Post by: Werewolf on July 08, 2008, 08:35:43 AM
He's a political wuss, a pansy, a panty waist - you name it. He simply will not fight back when attacked politically.

I watched him on Fox news this morning. He was asked about his response to Obama's attack on him vis a vis his economic policy. His response a shrug of his shoulders and a comment that different people believe different things. No point by point rebuttal. No nothing.

This isn't the first time I've watched McCain take the HIGH ROAD either. He may think that's what people want but it isn't. It may be what the MSM wants. It may be what the pundits cry for but what the people want is a fighter not some wuss who's gonna lie down and just take it.

It's starting to look like he's running Bush the Elder's reelection campaign - i.e. he's running but his heart's not really in it.

Maybe McCain is too old and just doesn't have the energy and fight in him anymore to do what it takes to win the Presidency of the USA.
Title: Re: McCain Will Not Win Because....
Post by: HankB on July 08, 2008, 09:00:53 AM
This election seems to fit the title of Bernie Goldberg's book . . . "Crazies to the left of me, wimps on the right."

Some time back, columnist Ann Coulter commented that she didn't expect (or want!) Republicans to become shrieking lunatics like Howard Dean, but she wished they'd at least act like men once in a while . . .
Title: Re: McCain Will Not Win Because....
Post by: longeyes on July 08, 2008, 09:35:17 AM
McCain isn't taking the high road; he's taking the old two-lane blacktop while he gives Obama the Interstate.

Increasingly I wonder if he really has the gizzard for this.  Unfortunately, WE will be the losers.  McCain can insulate himself from the Obama tsunami; the rest of us can't.
Title: Re: McCain Will Not Win Because....
Post by: Waitone on July 08, 2008, 11:11:23 AM
How much is the 2008 election appear to be a repeat of 1992 election of a war hero (Bob Dole) v. a young and hungry newcomer (Bill Clinton).  Dole's attitude was that of many of his generation in that he and is generation had taken on and whipped Italian fascism, German nazism, Japanese imperialism, and Russian communism.  He had nothing to prove and let his record speak for itself.  Shift to McCain.  POW, tortured, voluntarily stayed behind, organized resistance against his captors, combat pilot.  He has nothing to prove and his record in terms of his character needs no commentary.

All of which is irrelevant when it comes to a presidential election.  The name of the game is what a candidate will do based on what he has done.  McCain had better get busy and talk specifics.  He had better starting calling O'Bama what his is--a marxist.  He had better lay aside senatorial comity and engage in the fight.  I would think a fighter pilot would understand one on one combat.  He has evidently forgotten the nature of combat OR he simply thinks he is owed this shot at the stars.  In any case the stars are not lining up right with this guy (not that I have any positive expectation of his presidency).
Title: Re: McCain Will Not Win Because....
Post by: longeyes on July 08, 2008, 12:17:58 PM
That's right, specifics, specifics, and more specifics.

McCain may think it's enough to run on his record, but that record means little or nothing to a broad swath of today's voters.  It should--but it doesn't. 

If he wants to win he needs to show the American people what their lives will look like under an Obama Presidency.  If that takes "fear-mongering" he's going to have to swallow hard and do it.
Title: Re: McCain Will Not Win Because....
Post by: Manedwolf on July 08, 2008, 12:19:00 PM
That's right, specifics, specifics, and more specifics.

McCain may think it's enough to run on his record, but that record means little or nothing to a broad swatch of today's voters.  It should--but it doesn't. 

If he wants to win he needs to show the American people what their lives will look like under an Obama Presidency.  If that takes "fear-mongering" he's going to have to swallow hard and do it.

What he's doing now is trying to be gentlemanly when facing a snake.

And that isn't going to work at all.
Title: Re: McCain Will Not Win Because....
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 08, 2008, 01:20:52 PM
But he's better, higher, purer than you lowly partisans, don't you understand?  He's Above the Fray.TM  Unfortunately for him, Obama's rights to that trademarked slogan are not contestable. 
Title: Re: McCain Will Not Win Because....
Post by: seeker_two on July 08, 2008, 01:25:32 PM
McCain may think it's enough to run on his record, but that record means little or nothing to a broad swatch of today's voters.  It should--but it doesn't. 


Particularly when that record doesn't even impress his own party that much.....  rolleyes

I'm even wondering if McCain will even write his own concession speech or just borrow Dole's.....or if he'll wait until after the GOP convention to give it......  undecided
Title: Re: McCain Will Not Win Because....
Post by: Sergeant Bob on July 08, 2008, 07:24:19 PM
McCain may think it's enough to run on his record, but that record means little or nothing to a broad swatch of today's voters.  It should--but it doesn't. 


Particularly when that record doesn't even impress his own party that much.....  rolleyes

I'm even wondering if McCain will even write his own concession speech or just borrow Dole's.....or if he'll wait until after the GOP convention to give it......  undecided

Yeah, if he runs on his record, he'll lose for sure. He might as well start auditioning for Viagra commercials.
Title: Re: McCain Will Not Win Because....
Post by: agricola on July 10, 2008, 12:25:27 AM
From over here, there does appear to be a bit more that McCain could be doing, perhaps at least giving out the appearance of being busy.

That said, it is also true that Obama is busily flipflopping (and labelling anyone who points this out as a cynic who is not in tune with "the new politics"  rolleyes ) all by himself, and making laughable claims like that interview with his family on Access Hollywood was just something that came up on the spur of the moment, a mistake that he didnt prevent at the time and not a carefully choreographed exercise that polling has suggested went down like an especially tasteless lead balloon.  There is perhaps less of a need for negative campaigning when your opponent is busily trashing his own image (or would be, if only parts of the media would fall out of love with him).
Title: Re: McCain Will Not Win Because....
Post by: LadySmith on July 10, 2008, 12:38:12 AM
But he's better, higher, purer than you lowly partisans, don't you understand?  He's Above the Fray.TM  Unfortunately for him, Obama's rights to that trademarked slogan are not contestable. 

I heard on the radio that McCain's clinging to his own sense of honor is what's going to cost him.
He'd rather lose honorably than fight dirty.
Title: Re: McCain Will Not Win Because....
Post by: seeker_two on July 10, 2008, 01:29:50 AM
But he's better, higher, purer than you lowly partisans, don't you understand?  He's Above the Fray.TM  Unfortunately for him, Obama's rights to that trademarked slogan are not contestable. 

I heard on the radio that McCain's clinging to his own sense of honor is what's going to cost him.
He'd rather lose honorably than fight dirty.

He'll get his wish.....though sabotaging the GOP with a lackluster campaign and giving the Presidency to a Marxist doesn't sound to honorable to me....
Title: Re: McCain Will Not Win Because....
Post by: longeyes on July 10, 2008, 07:18:58 AM
I don't think it's honor I think it's a misguided form of sentimentality, the same impulse that makes him see "God's children" in people who invading the U.S. illegally.  He can't see the evil in Obama any more than he could see it in his "good friend," Hillary Clinton.  I think McCain runs on emotion, just as Bush does--this is the bigger, deeper problem--and these men are vying for the Presidency because the whole culture has gone that way.

At best McCain is a tourniquet, not triage.  The country is still badly wounded and we are still at war, on many fronts.

Title: Re: McCain Will Not Win Because....
Post by: Werewolf on July 10, 2008, 07:36:15 AM
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I heard on the radio that McCain's clinging to his own sense of honor is what's going to cost him.
He'd rather lose honorably than fight dirty.

Humph!

That might explain why he got shot down in Vietnam.

With the exception of organized sports (and maybe not even then), in real life, there's no such thing as a fair fight.
Title: Re: McCain Will Not Win Because....
Post by: longeyes on July 10, 2008, 09:35:11 AM
It is not "fighting dirty" to point out the truth as you see it for the good of your country.

I'm afraid McCain has imbibed too much of the Political Correctness cocktail--or maybe this is Cindy's influence?