Post by: vernal45 on September 15, 2005, 02:35:22 PM
Post by: Guest on September 15, 2005, 03:00:41 PM
Now the downside. It cost about $105 for 30. However its worth it to be able to get a full nights sleep.
Post by: TarpleyG on September 15, 2005, 04:18:25 PM
Greg
Post by: Felonious Monk/Fignozzle on September 15, 2005, 04:21:09 PM
You mention prescription sleep meds, which I have not tried...However,
Melatonin has allowed me to sleep like a baby for the last 4 years.
Get the 3mg, NOT the 300mcg. Milligrams vs. Micrograms.
Also, the PM in Tylenol PM is just Diphenhydramine, which can be gotten in prescription strength or OTC.
I'd go with those before looking at the terribly expensive Ambien or Lunesta.
YMMV.
Post by: grampster on September 15, 2005, 04:21:21 PM
Post by: Monkeyleg on September 15, 2005, 06:38:58 PM
I know why I can't, but that's beside the point.
My doc has prescribed just about every new sleep aid on the market. I take one. Nothing. Two. Nothing. Three. Nothing.
I'm spending $12 a night, and I still can't sleep. In fact, I didn't sleep even two minutes last night.
Even the old stand-by's---exercise, sex, reading, or just watching dumb TV shows--don't work.
If you want to discuss this privately, PM me. If you've found a solution, announce it to everybody on the forum!
Post by: Sylvilagus Aquaticus on September 15, 2005, 07:40:19 PM
Regards,
Rabbit.
Post by: vernal45 on September 15, 2005, 07:45:13 PM
Post by: Justin on September 15, 2005, 08:53:15 PM
While not necessarily a sleep aid, try some Chai tea. I find that it helps me to relax.
Post by: BobR on September 15, 2005, 09:39:04 PM
Check the price, and see what your doc says about it.
bob
Post by: Antibubba on September 15, 2005, 11:49:12 PM
I use Ambien, too; it breaks down in your system after about 4 hours, so you don't wake up groggy. OTOH, you might just wake up after four hours, like I find myself doing lately. I've tried the Lunesta, and I hate it-it leaves me really disoriented in the morning. Xanax works well, but it can be addictive, so I try not to resort to it too often. OTC, there are the antihistamines Benadryl (diphenhydramine) and chlorpheniramine. Herbally, I have used melatonin, too, but lately it's not helping much. Valerian is good, too. Alcohol will make sleeping harder; you may drift off, but you'll wake up more tired. Oddly enough, if I drink a lot of coffee in a short time, I get really drowsy, but if you can imagine a jittery nap...
I realize I sound like a junkie right now
but I do know what causes it, and there's nothing else to be done right now. Notice the time? I'm wide awake. Tired, but awake. I think I'll try the melatonin again tonight; it can't hurt, and if it doesn't work there's plenty of Ambien.
Post by: Guest on September 16, 2005, 01:00:29 AM
/whinyness.
Post by: Antibubba on September 16, 2005, 06:16:55 AM
Post by: charby on September 16, 2005, 06:40:42 AM
I have been wanting to try Kava Kava, but not sure if it would be addicting or not over long term, tired it a couple times, pure root and it numbs you pretty good, kind of in a daze.
Charby
Post by: Paddy on September 16, 2005, 10:27:29 AM
Post by: vernal45 on September 16, 2005, 10:54:55 AM
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Is it like you're really sleepy/tired, watching tv or reading or something, then you go to bed and your brain kicks into high gear? That's the way it is for me.
Yep, Its like I cant shut my brain down. And when I try to sleep, it kicks into high gear, cant stop thinking about things needed to be done, things gone undone, the next days business, next weeks business, and so on.
Post by: grampster on September 16, 2005, 01:00:04 PM
Learning how to meditate if your not a Christian. (That's really all prayer is, by the way)
Learn self hypnosis, which, probably is a form of meditation.
In other words put your self someplace other than in your brain. You don't try an empty your brain as some teach, I don't think. That's work. I'm talking about going elsewhere, where it's peaceful.
Post by: vernal45 on September 16, 2005, 01:02:36 PM
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Learn self hypnosis, which, probably is a form of meditation.
In other words put your self someplace other than in your brain
Can anyone suggest some techniques of self hypnosis of meditation?
In other words put your self someplace other than in your brain
Post by: grampster on September 16, 2005, 01:06:19 PM
Post by: Guest on September 16, 2005, 01:07:24 PM
Post by: Declaration Day on September 16, 2005, 01:10:01 PM
OTC sleep aid pills always work well for me, though I worry about taking them for 10-20 days straight. Are these pills hard on my body?
Post by: bountyhunter on September 16, 2005, 02:04:12 PM
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I am in need of prescription sleep med, to help me go to sleep. I have heard that the new Lunesta is the best, also it costs an arm and leg. Are there any suggestions on good sleep medication, without paying out the yang for it. BTW, in my area, a 30 day supply of lunesta = $114.00
A good dose of Benadryl is very effective.Also, 1/2 milligram of melatonin will knock you out.
If you have to have a scrip, I used to have a drug called restoril (Tamazapam) and it would knock you out like a light.
Post by: bountyhunter on September 16, 2005, 02:08:04 PM
Quote from: Blackburn
Quote from: Justin
I'll also weigh in with a suggestion that you try Melatonin. It's cheap and works well..
I use melatonin habitually. It works.Take it an hour or two before needing to sleep. It takes a bit to kick in. Go ahead and take three of the 3mg tablets. People have tried to commit suicide with it with uneventful results.
Don't use more than 1/2 mg of it and only occasionally.
If you have to take ANYTHING more than once a week, you have an underlying problem that needs to be fixed.
Post by: bountyhunter on September 16, 2005, 02:40:14 PM
http://www.shop.com/op/~Herbal_Sleep,_90_capsules_Nature's_most_powerful_and_safe_sleep_inducing_herbs-prod-4986297
Post by: Lee on September 16, 2005, 06:41:55 PM
Post by: triggertime on September 17, 2005, 04:52:17 PM
Melatonin and 5-HTP seem to work without any side effects...
Post by: vernal45 on September 19, 2005, 06:20:39 AM
Post by: Lee on September 20, 2005, 03:40:30 PM
The one time I took Valerian root, I dreamed that I was on fire. I hopped out of bed and my skin felt like I had a 3rd degree sunburn. I must have stared in the mirror for a full minute or two before realizing I wasn't badly burned. Weird stuff!
Post by: Felonious Monk/Fignozzle on September 20, 2005, 04:37:11 PM
Quote from: Lee
"Valerian root gives me Steven King esque nightmares."
The one time I took Valerian root, I dreamed that I was on fire. I hopped out of bed and my skin felt like I had a 3rd degree sunburn. I must have stared in the mirror for a full minute or two before realizing I wasn't badly burned. Weird stuff!
I remember an ayahuasca ceremony in the mountains outside Tegucigalpa, but, um, wait...we were talking about actually TRYING to sleep...The one time I took Valerian root, I dreamed that I was on fire. I hopped out of bed and my skin felt like I had a 3rd degree sunburn. I must have stared in the mirror for a full minute or two before realizing I wasn't badly burned. Weird stuff!
Never mind.
Felonious (interesting formative years) Fig
Post by: BryanP on September 21, 2005, 04:41:21 AM
No, it didn't happen tome but I've observed this personally.
Trazadone was mentioned earlier. It's a cheap low-end antidepressant which helps many people sleep.