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Title: What is the gun in the picture in the upper left?
Post by: Pb on September 18, 2005, 02:24:20 PM
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Title: What is the gun in the picture in the upper left?
Post by: ...has left the building. on September 18, 2005, 03:33:58 PM
M3A1 Grease Gun.

Edited...it is an "A1" to be more exact.
Title: What is the gun in the picture in the upper left?
Post by: jefnvk on September 18, 2005, 06:22:44 PM
Do those appeal to anyone but me?  A low cyclic rate .45, made on the cheap would be the thing I would want.
Title: What is the gun in the picture in the upper left?
Post by: Antibubba on September 18, 2005, 06:30:36 PM
I'd like one too.
Title: What is the gun in the picture in the upper left?
Post by: Greg L on September 19, 2005, 04:42:40 AM
Scroll all the way up to the top of your screen & look up & left (site's logo).
Title: What is the gun in the picture in the upper left?
Post by: K Frame on September 19, 2005, 04:56:01 AM
Not many grease guns ever made it to the civilian market. Those that did bring prices as high, or higher, than Thompsons.
Title: What is the gun in the picture in the upper left?
Post by: Werewolf on September 19, 2005, 05:04:00 AM
The M3A1 was my personal weapon when I served as a gunner on an M-60 tank in the early 70's. Both the gunner and driver got one as well as a 1911. The Loader and TC only got 1911's.

The M3 is a blast to shoot. The company armorer always seemed to be able to find expired ammo that needed to be shot up so a couple of times a year the company would head out to the range and shoot it up.

The M3 is remarkably easy to control though if IIRC it does tend to pull up and right. Keep it down to 3 to 5 round bursts and you can put a lot of hurt down range. We set up targets at 15, 25, 35 and 50 meters. Hitting a man sized silhouette out to 25 was easy, 35 a bit more difficult and 50 kinda hard unless you could do the one shot trigger pull (takes a while to get amount of control).

We did the taped together mag trick too. I was stationed at Aschaffenburg and there was a nuclear weapons storage facility nearby. Each company in the Battalion (4/64 Armor) took turns being the rapid reaction alert force and we always went to the site when called armed, locked and loaded (drills actually - but there was no such thing as a drill - always considered the real deal) so the taped mags stayed in the armory fully loaded.

I have fond memories of the M3. It'd be nice to own one. Probably cost an arm and a leg to get one though even if one could be found. Too bad - the price tag in '71 was a mere $79 I believe.
Title: What is the gun in the picture in the upper left?
Post by: S. Williamson on September 20, 2005, 05:02:32 AM


http://www.valkyriearms.com/m3.htm

You're welcome. Wink  Semi-only, though. undecided
Title: What is the gun in the picture in the upper left?
Post by: Azrael256 on September 20, 2005, 05:10:51 AM
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Semi-only, though.
Yeah, and that's one heck of a long barrel, too.  Not exactly a submachine gun anymore with that.  The thought occurs to me that it wouldn't be a bad way to go for a cheap-to-produce .45 carbine.  Just imagine a semi-auto M11 that doesn't suck.
Title: What is the gun in the picture in the upper left?
Post by: Werewolf on September 20, 2005, 09:06:55 AM
I'm familiar with the Valkyrie Arms M3 clone and even toyed with the idea of getting one. BUT then reality reared it's ugly head and I wondered why I would want a semi-auto M3 when what made the M3 so cool was that it was full auto.

I am not willing to pay the going price for a full auto M3 (even if I could find one) that would essentially be just another toy.

OTOH...
If I ever win the lottery Cheesy
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Post by: Headless Thompson Gunner on September 20, 2005, 11:05:32 AM
Does it really cost Valkyrie $800 to market a grease gun knock off???  What's up with that?
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Post by: Brad Johnson on September 20, 2005, 11:26:06 AM
Talk about simple. A hollow tube with a button-rifled short barrel screwed on the end. A simple spring-driven open-bolt, semi-slam-fired mechanism and parts that can be built from hardware store supplies using hand tools (well, almost Cheesy ).

Too bad they proved to simple, too cheap, and too rugged for their own good.

Brad
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Post by: jefnvk on September 20, 2005, 01:14:10 PM
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Does it really cost Valkyrie $800 to market a grease gun knock off???  What's up with that?
Lack of demand, I'd guess.

Now, maybe if they got the price down to $200-300, and made a SBR version, I'd consider it someday.  Or maybe even a pistol version.