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Title: Looking forward to the debates
Post by: Scout26 on August 29, 2008, 07:38:19 AM
I predict McCain will wipe the floor with BHO.

And Palin should do well against Biden.


After the debates the election won't be so close.
Title: Re: Looking forward to the debates
Post by: xavier fremboe on August 29, 2008, 07:39:46 AM
I predict McCain will wipe the floor with BHO.

And Palin should do well against Biden.


After the debates the election won't be so close.
My only concern with Palin v. Biden will be on foreign policy.  She's got some prep work to do.
Title: Re: Looking forward to the debates
Post by: Manedwolf on August 29, 2008, 07:46:59 AM
I predict McCain will wipe the floor with BHO.

And Palin should do well against Biden.


After the debates the election won't be so close.
My only concern with Palin v. Biden will be on foreign policy.  She's got some prep work to do.

She can just stand there and let Biden destroy Biden. Once he opens his mouth, he just doesn't stop. It's like verbal diarrhea. Ever see his "questioning" sessions where he babbled on about his upbringing and youth instead of asking any questions?

All he needs to have is one "everyone in Dunkin Donuts and 7-11 has an Indian accent" moment about women, and the Clinton voters are done with them.
Title: Re: Looking forward to the debates
Post by: The Annoyed Man on August 29, 2008, 07:59:44 AM
I'll look forward to the debates if Barr makes it into them.

Saying I look forward to them now is like saying I look forward to coming home from work to watch my dog and the neighbor's new puppy bark at each other through the chain-link fence.
Title: Re: Looking forward to the debates
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on August 29, 2008, 04:35:51 PM
i'd wanna ask biden if he really thought sending iran a big check after 911 was a good idea
Title: Re: Looking forward to the debates
Post by: Gowen on August 29, 2008, 05:30:46 PM
All she has to do with biden is ask him after he says something "did you write that or is it Xerox?"
Title: Re: Looking forward to the debates
Post by: Bruce H on August 29, 2008, 05:54:07 PM
Mrs. Palin will probably study Biden very carefully. Then at the proper moment ask why he isn't in prison for x number of reasons and then name them. Biden doesn't have a chance against her.
Title: Re: Looking forward to the debates
Post by: Antibubba on August 29, 2008, 08:10:47 PM
I expect Governor Palin will be an absolutely charming lady, most of the time.  But don't forget, the purpose of the modern Vice President is less one of being in reserve, but as the anchor for party ideology.  She isn't just a solid Republican, but one with something of a libertarian bent.  Foreign policy?  Yes, he's the expert, but he can get pedantic.  Where she will absolutely hammer him is in Energy Policy.  Obama may have some lofty (to put it nicely) energy independence ideas, but this woman KNOWS oil--and not in the way Bush does, but at ground level.  Alaska is an oil state in a way Texans can only dream about.

Biden is going to be surprised...  grin
Title: Re: Looking forward to the debates
Post by: red headed stranger on August 31, 2008, 04:58:16 AM
I really wish that we could have real DEBATES rather than the format we have been seeing lately.  What we have had are Q&As that lend themselves to spouting short vague talking points with little to no opportunity for rebuttal.

 
Title: Re: Looking forward to the debates
Post by: freedom lover on August 31, 2008, 08:19:30 AM
I'll second what Red Head said.
Title: Re: Looking forward to the debates
Post by: Physics on August 31, 2008, 11:53:40 AM
I really wish that we could have real DEBATES rather than the format we have been seeing lately.  What we have had are Q&As that lend themselves to spouting short vague talking points with little to no opportunity for rebuttal.

 

But then no one will understand...  I find a quote from Thucydides to be pertinent here:
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The way that most men deal with traditions, even traditions of their own country, is to receive them all alike as they are delivered, without applying any critical test whatever.  There are many unfounded ideas current in Greece, even on matters of contemporary history which have not been obscured by time.  For instance, there is the notion that the Lacedaemonian kings have two votes each, the fact being that they have only one; and that there is a company of Pitane, there being simply no such thing.  So little pains do most people take in the investigation of truth, accepting readily the first story that comes to hand.

Everyone wants their information handed to them.  I know many scientists that are doomed if it's not in Google or Wikipedia.  It's like the internet equivalent to fast food, we're all becoming mentally obese.  I know it's not everyone, and I respect a lot of you guys for being the exact opposite. 
Title: Re: Looking forward to the debates
Post by: red headed stranger on August 31, 2008, 03:45:05 PM
I agree with what you said Physics.  A lot of people want their sound bites spoon fed to them.  I think it would be great if we had at least one honest-to-god debate in addition to the format that we have been getting lately. 

Unfortunately, I don't see that happening anytime soon, as the two major parties have co-opted the debate process and only agree to debates that have been thoroughly negotiated in order to avoid many important topics.   

Title: Re: Looking forward to the debates
Post by: longeyes on August 31, 2008, 04:45:19 PM
Biden will be hoist by his own petard when he debates Palin.  He is a wise ass who isn't wise and, yes, runs at the mouth because he fancies himself one of the gifted.  I predict he will say something offensive within the first half-hour that will have most of America rolling their eyes.
Title: Re: Looking forward to the debates
Post by: Waitone on September 02, 2008, 10:01:32 AM
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Where she will absolutely hammer him is in Energy Policy.  Obama may have some lofty (to put it nicely) energy independence ideas, but this woman KNOWS oil--and not in the way Bush does, but at ground level.  Alaska is an oil state in a way Texans can only dream about.

Biden is going to be surprised...  grin
And so is McCain. Hisself is of two minds in that he really wants to straddle the oil issue.  He's now leaning toward coastal drilling but not so much for drilling ANWR.  Palin's presence will make it impossible for the straddle to continue.  I think McCain will shortly come out full throat in favor of drilling ANWR simply to draw another distinction between the two parties.  And the effect on the republican base will be just as electrifying.  It represents another break with past.  Only then can Palin begin to take on Biden and his handlers on oil. 

O'Bama/Palin in the current silly season has demonstrated one truth.  Clarity of message is absolutely essential.  Palin's simple and clear message trumped O'Bama's well-produced show with little effort.  Drilling ANWR is another simple message.
Title: Re: Looking forward to the debates
Post by: Tallpine on September 02, 2008, 11:41:50 AM
I really wish that we could have real DEBATES rather than the format we have been seeing lately.  What we have had are Q&As that lend themselves to spouting short vague talking points with little to no opportunity for rebuttal.

 

But then no one will understand...  I find a quote from Thucydides to be pertinent here:
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The way that most men deal with traditions, even traditions of their own country, is to receive them all alike as they are delivered, without applying any critical test whatever.  There are many unfounded ideas current in Greece, even on matters of contemporary history which have not been obscured by time.  For instance, there is the notion that the Lacedaemonian kings have two votes each, the fact being that they have only one; and that there is a company of Pitane, there being simply no such thing.  So little pains do most people take in the investigation of truth, accepting readily the first story that comes to hand.

Everyone wants their information handed to them.  I know many scientists that are doomed if it's not in Google or Wikipedia.  It's like the internet equivalent to fast food, we're all becoming mentally obese.  I know it's not everyone, and I respect a lot of you guys for being the exact opposite. 

Could you please explain all that in one sentence?

It would help if it rhymed.  Wink
Title: Re: Looking forward to the debates
Post by: longeyes on September 02, 2008, 07:24:15 PM
I've been waiting years on this forum for someone to quote Thucydides.  Thanks.  grin
Title: Re: Looking forward to the debates
Post by: Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas on September 02, 2008, 07:33:08 PM
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Could you please explain all that in one sentence?

It would help if it rhymed. 

No. I could rhyme it, though.

There are the masses we know as unwashed,
Many are those who would wish them be coshed.
Short are their spans de atten-tionaise,
Like unto a spoon used to spread mayonnaise.

That's how I read it, anyhow.
Title: Re: Looking forward to the debates
Post by: Ben on September 03, 2008, 03:52:14 AM
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I really wish that we could have real DEBATES rather than the format we have been seeing lately.

I kinda am wishing for pistol duels at 20 paces. Smiley
Title: Re: Looking forward to the debates
Post by: roo_ster on September 03, 2008, 05:41:28 AM
There are the masses we know as unwashed,
Many are those who would wish them be coshed.
Short are their spans de atten-tionaise,
Like unto a spoon used to spread mayonnaise.

Me likey.

Title: Re: Looking forward to the debates
Post by: MechAg94 on September 03, 2008, 05:50:55 AM
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I really wish that we could have real DEBATES rather than the format we have been seeing lately.

I kinda am wishing for pistol duels at 20 paces. Smiley
How about AR's at 200 yards?