Post by: AJ Dual on September 16, 2008, 02:15:56 PM
Anyone know of any "Blood runs red on the highway" videos that would impress upon my three year old twins and four year old twins to freaking listen, hold hands, and walk across the street WHEN AND ONLY as directed by me?
I'm beyond caring if I traumatize them.
It won't be as bad as getting hit by a car because they darted out into the street to pick up a pebble they "just had to have" etc. And generally it takes D.I.-quality screaming/threats of a level that would risk getting the police/CPS called on me if I did it in public to get through their little one-track minds that maybe daddy's trying to tell them something, and that stopping, and turning around and coming back might be a good idea.All I can find so far is third world traffic cam footage, or staged stunts or stupid skater kids who had it coming...
Post by: yesitsloaded on September 16, 2008, 02:22:15 PM
Post by: AJ Dual on September 16, 2008, 02:33:38 PM
Plus, doing that demonstration would necessitate that they behave and stand still on the sidewalk. Something they're incapable of, hence my original problem.
Post by: crt360 on September 16, 2008, 02:35:26 PM
Post by: AJ Dual on September 16, 2008, 02:40:36 PM
Drive around until you find some fresh roadkill with lots of blood, stink and flies. Let them soak it in. Explain to them how Bambi (or whatever animal you happen to find) wasn't careful and won't ever get to play with its friends again.
Better...
Post by: Fjolnirsson on September 16, 2008, 04:05:16 PM
And I second the roadkill idea.
Post by: AJ Dual on September 16, 2008, 04:23:29 PM
Although when they've really got me hacked off, I start randomly spanking on "2" or "3" so they get moving by "1"...
However, it's hard to do that in public. Or do the D.I. scream that actually gets them moving.
Post by: Antibubba on September 16, 2008, 08:16:52 PM
Post by: gunsmith on September 16, 2008, 08:23:21 PM
At that age you're better off leashing them. Seriously.
I agree, I also do not think spanking is all that productive.
http://www.alice-miller.com/flyers_en.php?page=2
Post by: freakazoid on September 16, 2008, 09:39:32 PM
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(Children who have never been beaten are less interested in cruel films, and, as adults, will not produce horror shows).
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Because of obedience to violence as a child, by readiness to obey any authority which recalls the authority of the parents, as the Germans obeyed Hitler, the Russians Stalin, the Serbs Milosevic.
Yeah, all of WW2 was because those Germans spanked there children.
Post by: The Annoyed Man on September 16, 2008, 11:09:26 PM
Post by: Jamisjockey on September 17, 2008, 03:14:50 AM
I started teaching spawn #1 about street crossing and being safe in parking lots this year (5 in Oct)....#2 has been paying attention (just turned 3).
Work the hardest on the 4 year olds. At thier age, they should be able to listen. The 3 year olds are harder to train.
Post by: roo_ster on September 17, 2008, 05:27:06 AM
http://www.alice-miller.com/flyers_en.php?page=2
Yeah, all of WW2 was because those Germans spanked there children.
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(Children who have never been beaten are less interested in cruel films, and, as adults, will not produce horror shows).
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Because of obedience to violence as a child, by readiness to obey any authority which recalls the authority of the parents, as the Germans obeyed Hitler, the Russians Stalin, the Serbs Milosevic.
Yeah, all of WW2 was because those Germans spanked there children.
[colonel_klink]I can see how this misconception came about. Obviously, too many viewings of that propaganda film, "Casablanca."[/colonel_klink]
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Renault: Oh, laugh if you will, but I happen to be familiar with your record. Let me point out just two items. In 1935 you ran guns to Ethiopia. In 1936, you fought in Spain on the Loyalist side.
Rick: And got well paid for it on both occasions.
Renault: The winning side would have paid you much better.
Rick: Maybe. Well, it seems you are determined to keep Lazlo here.
Renault: I have my orders.
Rick: Oh, I see. Gestapo spank.
[Renault stands up]
Renault: My dear Ricky, you overestimate the influence of the Gestapo. I don;t interfere with htem and they don't interfere with me. In Casablanca I am master of my fate. I am captain of my --
[He stops short as his aide enters]
Aide: --Major Strasser is here, sir.
[Renault starts to leave.]
Rick: Yeah, you were saying?
Rick: And got well paid for it on both occasions.
Renault: The winning side would have paid you much better.
Rick: Maybe. Well, it seems you are determined to keep Lazlo here.
Renault: I have my orders.
Rick: Oh, I see. Gestapo spank.
[Renault stands up]
Renault: My dear Ricky, you overestimate the influence of the Gestapo. I don;t interfere with htem and they don't interfere with me. In Casablanca I am master of my fate. I am captain of my --
[He stops short as his aide enters]
Aide: --Major Strasser is here, sir.
[Renault starts to leave.]
Rick: Yeah, you were saying?
Is it a good or bad thing that I can recall likely 80% of Casablanca without looking it up? I did so fo rthe above, 'cause I wasn't sure if it was "Nazi spank" or "Gestapo spank."
Post by: Mabs2 on September 17, 2008, 05:35:20 AM
PROBLEM SOLVED
Post by: Grandpa Shooter on September 17, 2008, 05:49:22 AM
My Mother would stand there and say, "For Christ's sake get that kid out of the road, you are going to talk him to death!"
Of course my brother believes Clinton was the best President we ever had too.
Post by: Parker Dean on September 17, 2008, 08:45:15 AM
A friend of mine told his then three year old that a discolored patch in a parking lot was where another child was run over and killed in a similar attempt to impress the boy into not running off in parking lots. He's nine now and still remembers that because he looked for that patch the other day when we were there. Did it work? No. Even today he's not completely trustable if you're horsing around with him, although he is reasonably OK if calm. Up to about seven it was an even bet that he would run off toward the place we were going when we got out of the car.
Post by: MechAg94 on September 17, 2008, 09:06:00 AM
Post by: coppertales on September 17, 2008, 10:09:12 AM
Post by: AJ Dual on September 17, 2008, 10:32:56 AM
Don't have kids either but my cat comes when called.......Sounds like a good case of "like twins, like daddy".......chris3
I wish. It's their mother. I was a pretty calm kid. And when I was naughty, I was deliberate, careful, and sneaky. Mostly involving playing Ted Kazinsky/Mad Scientist with household chemicals, air-rifles, and misuse of model rocket engines.
I did have to explain myself when at age 13, I faild to consider that my attempt at a 6 foot long coil-gun would not work because it did not have an appropriate load in the circuit (well, any load... really), and I blew the mains for the house. My father did think the DIY carbon-arc furnace I made out of a terra-cotta flowerpot, curtian rod, and carbon sticks pulled from old batteries was impressive. Well, at least until I plugged it in, and he discovered that I had decided to substitute a household chandiler/lighting rheostat for the lead sinker and salt-water in a pyrex dish that the old 1950's "Science for boys" book had instructed. And once again, blew the mains...
Fortunately, they never did learn of the napalm. In a fit of inspiration I dragged the old Weber grill over the stain/burn on the patio, and my parents assumed that grease, or some plastic cooking implement had been forgotten in there after the last cookout. Phew.
OTOH, Mrs. Dual, went missing for the better part of the day at age two. The neighbors and local constabulary got involved, only to discover they faild to look up. She was on top of the kitchen refridgerator, nude, and covered in the dirt/mud from the houseplant she'd been eating while quietly enjoying all the commotion.
In all reality, it's a group dynamic problem. Mrs. Dual and I work nearly opposite shifts. They're horrible when it's 4-on-1. They're about average, behavior-wise, when we're both with them, or only have two with one of us. And their behavior is impeccable on the all too rare occasions we have them one-on-one.
Post by: roo_ster on September 17, 2008, 11:29:15 AM
One of my more humorous & terror-inducing exploits occurred at age two:
At ~0700 Saturday, a neighbor calls the house, wakes my folks up, and my parents if they know where their son (myself--jfruser) is.
Turns out, I had climbed out of the crib, went down the stairs over the child gate to the kitchen and picked up one of my bottles.
Then, I went to the front door, unlocked the dead bolt, and walked down to the end of the street to a favored neighbor lady's house.
I rang the doorbell and asked her to fill my bottle with milk.
Dad then installed a double-cylinder dead bolt on the door...up high Nobody got in...or out without a key.
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on September 17, 2008, 03:32:10 PM
Post by: Scout26 on September 17, 2008, 04:20:37 PM
I did spend an evening in the emergency room with my daughter when she was 3, after separating her shoulder when I grabbed her arm to pull her back as she took off to go run into the street. I just sat there and waited for DCFS to showup. The best part was when the x-ray tech poped back in when he was trying to get her arm into the right position for x-rays. She had been sobbing since it had happened and then on the x-ray table. *POP* The crying stops, off go the tears and she's back to being happy-go-lucky.
Post by: gunsmith on September 22, 2008, 04:56:27 PM
http://www.alice-miller.com/flyers_en.php?page=2
Yeah, all of WW2 was because those Germans spanked there children.
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(Children who have never been beaten are less interested in cruel films, and, as adults, will not produce horror shows).
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Because of obedience to violence as a child, by readiness to obey any authority which recalls the authority of the parents, as the Germans obeyed Hitler, the Russians Stalin, the Serbs Milosevic.
Yeah, all of WW2 was because those Germans spanked there children.
Funny you should mention that, she devoted a chapter of her book "For Your Own Good" to a study of Hitler's youth.
Don't criticize until you have at least read some of her books.
She is an excellent writer and even if you don't agree with her conclusions, its a compelling book.
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Yeah, all of WW2 was because those Germans spanked there their children
The Germans allowed genocide, why would a country allow that? Some kind of worldview was common to German citizens to allow
that to happen, don't be so quick to dismiss it.....
Post by: Nitrogen on September 22, 2008, 05:50:28 PM
Pity that's frowned upon these days.
Post by: Matthew Carberry on September 22, 2008, 08:27:51 PM
The one time I did it, my dad beat the tar out of me.
Pity that's frowned upon these days.
Pity that's frowned upon these days.
Better than the traffic beating you into the tar.
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on September 22, 2008, 08:29:48 PM
Post by: gunsmith on September 24, 2008, 08:27:04 PM
her beatings did nothing but teach her to beat her own kids, who refuse to even visit her.
she is dying od cpd or cpod...whatever its called, how come she is dying from her cigg smoking if spanking/beatings works so well?
beating children is abhorrent, most people can't see it, they couldn't understand the Abolitionist either....its a common worldview.
children have no real rights and are not articulate or smart enough to address the issue and neither are 99% of adults.
I'm not only Pro-Life, I'm pro human rights too
Post by: freedom lover on September 25, 2008, 01:39:11 PM
I love my dad all the more for correcting me.
Post by: Josh Aston on September 25, 2008, 02:02:49 PM
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beating children is abhorrent, most people can't see it, they couldn't understand the Abolitionist either....its a common worldview.
Beating a kid and correctively spanking them aren't anywhere near the same thing.