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Title: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: Manedwolf on September 24, 2008, 05:00:27 AM
It seems that analysts are predicting a poor holiday season due to costs and a lack of stuff that people "want". Myself, I've noticed something that I don't know if other people share.

Shopping for things no longer has attraction for some basic reasons.

- Everything is the SAME, from far too many of the same stores with the same stuff.

- Everything, or mostly everything, is of poor quality.

Every mall store, every big-box store, even every retailer in general just seems to have a ubiquitousness of the same merchandise, the same stuff.

How many TVs do you need? How many plastic items that break almost immediately? How many identical faux-ethnic home decor items? How many poorly made shirts that shrink in the first wash?

And why go to more stores when they all have those same items on the same shelves in the same arrangements, no matter what store in what town in what state you go to? Duplicate, redundant store after store, it seems like, to me.

Does it just seem like there's way too much retail space now, and that it's all full of the same junk that you don't really need, all redundant and almost all very poorly made?
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: Nick1911 on September 24, 2008, 05:10:04 AM
I agree wholeheartedly.

Retails store hold very low appeal for me.  I feel like there's nothing in there for me - nothing I want, nothing I find useful.

I buy things as I need, and occasionally a tool I want.  Tools make my life easier when I'm trying to repair some piece of crap so I don't have to buy another.  I've actually found myself buying white goods off creigslist instead of new, recently.  Gas Stove - $50.  Works like a champ.  Dishwasher - $25.  Guy didn't like the color of the one in a house he bought.  Presumably works great, haven't installed it yet.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: Boomhauer on September 24, 2008, 05:11:47 AM
I'll relate what I am most familer with, and that is gun stores. (the retail establishments I spend most of my spare time in).

All the big box stores are the same...they have the same guns...bolt action rifles, and cheap .22s (never any quality .22s, like CZs). And long barreled hunting shotguns. The most popular pistols. Same mix of cheap and somewhat expensive optics.

The smaller shops often follow the same lead, with just less stuff, but priced higher.


It's all just blah. No milsurps. No EBRs. No of the more unusual stuff...no cool stuff. No innovative items. No anything new. Just the same old tired inventory.

And same for the retail outlets of other types.

There are no interesting items anymore. There are no well crafted items anymore. There is just the same old boring stuff.





Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: wmenorr67 on September 24, 2008, 05:12:08 AM
Plus why go fight the crowds when you can have the same stuff shipped to your door for half the cost.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: Standing Wolf on September 24, 2008, 05:23:50 AM
Somebody needs to invent pet rocks.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: RevDisk on September 24, 2008, 05:30:36 AM
Plus why go fight the crowds when you can have the same stuff shipped to your door for half the cost.

For most retail stores, I agree.  For gun stores, I try to help out my local businesses.  As Avenger29 says, there isn't that much variety.  It's mainly long barrel shotguns, which I can understand as it's likely the best seller.  A mixed selection of bolt guns, but nothing that ever catches my eye.  Most gun stores go crazy with having 1-4 AR's.  Maybe an AK or two, but they try not to get too exotic. 

I have NEVER seen an FAL, semi Uzi, decent grade AK, etc other than online or at a gun show.  I'm sure there's excellent gunstores out there that stock the fun stuff (just not in my area, sigh) and I know most gunstores cater to deer hunters as it's the bulk of their business.   I'm sure they have sound business reasons for ignoring the guns I consider fun.  But it means I have to take my business elsewhere, which I wish I didn't have to do.  I'm young, single and have disposible income.   I'll probably spend more on guns and ammo than fifty run of the mill deer hunters, maybe a hundred. 


As for retail stores, f 'em.  I don't like cheap plastic well, everything.  When I'm buying something, I'm typically buying something because I want it, not because I need it.  So I need something to catch my eye.   I've noticed that if you buy right the first time, you don't have to replace it unless you want to.   
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: HankB on September 24, 2008, 05:33:53 AM
The reason so many things look alike is because they ARE alike, probably coming out of the same factory in China.

And don't kid yourself - the only reason the model numbers on identical large consumer items from TVs to refrigerators to lawn mowers may differ from one store to another may differ slightly is so the stores won't have to "price match" a competitor.

"I'd like a price match with Fry's on this XYZ-123-ba6D/56g plasma television"

"I'm sorry sir, we at Best Buy only carry the XYZ-123-ab6D/56g, which is a superior product. Since it's not the same model, our price match policy doesn't apply."

Large retailers DO get unique model numbers assigned to the products they sell.

Same thing with cars . . . notice how so many of the vehicles being sold today look like the same jellybean left in the sun too long?

Everything, or mostly everything, is of poor quality.
You can pick up items and SEE where the shortcuts were made, on everything from wooden hangars (Sort though the store's inventory to find some that were actually sanded smooth) to appliances. (Do the doors line up, or is rust visible?)

Plus why go fight the crowds when you can have the same stuff shipped to your door for half the cost.
Especially when shipping charges are a fraction of local sales tax.  angel
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: Tallpine on September 24, 2008, 06:13:25 AM
I have hated shopping all my life. 

I guess mostly because I:
a) hate crowds and traffic
b) as a "Scot" I hate to spend money

About all I need besides groceries, is blue jeans and wool socks, and horse feed.  Plus an occasional tack item now and then.  The only store I like to go into is Big R Ranch Supply (they also sell guns Smiley ).
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: Firethorn on September 24, 2008, 06:24:13 AM
I shop almost exclusively online anymore.  Still would like brick and mortar stores for some stuff, because it's otherwise difficult to get a good idea of the quality, exact size & fit.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: zahc on September 24, 2008, 06:31:36 AM
Living in a state that has 8+% sales tax, on any substantial purchase it's cheaper to buy online and pay shipping, even if it's the same price as in a store.
Title: the gospel according to Debtors Anonymous
Post by: longeyes on September 24, 2008, 06:51:59 AM
The troubled with you "jaded" consumer guys is you have rich inner lives.

Don't you know that inner emptiness is the reason behind shopoholism? grin
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: Harold Tuttle on September 24, 2008, 06:55:08 AM
I have actually walked about the Walmart with the desire to pick up another item to add on to my single item in the cart trip
and been completely stymied, There was nothing in the entire store that I wanted, It was all crap.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: MicroBalrog on September 24, 2008, 07:50:47 AM
Living in a state that has 8+% sales tax, on any substantial purchase it's cheaper to buy online and pay shipping, even if it's the same price as in a store.

Wouldn't they charge you once the item arrives at your local post office?
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: wmenorr67 on September 24, 2008, 07:52:09 AM
Living in a state that has 8+% sales tax, on any substantial purchase it's cheaper to buy online and pay shipping, even if it's the same price as in a store.

Wouldn't they charge you once the item arrives at your local post office?

Nope.  You pay for the item with a credit card or you are billed.  It ships to your door.  Post Office is not in the buisness of collecting sales tax.  And don't go given them any ideas.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: MicroBalrog on September 24, 2008, 07:54:39 AM
Living in a state that has 8+% sales tax, on any substantial purchase it's cheaper to buy online and pay shipping, even if it's the same price as in a store.

Wouldn't they charge you once the item arrives at your local post office?

Nope.  You pay for the item with a credit card or you are billed.  It ships to your door.  Post Office is not in the buisness of collecting sales tax.  And don't go given them any ideas.

That's what the Israeli Postal Company does - collect VAT of every Amazon package worth $50 or more.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 24, 2008, 08:27:05 AM
It seems that analysts are predicting a poor holiday season due to costs and a lack of stuff that people "want".

Who are these moronic analysts?  The holiday season will be slow, because the economy is slow.  Lack of stuff people want?   rolleyes
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: Headless Thompson Gunner on September 24, 2008, 08:34:34 AM
It all depends on where you shop, I suppose.  If you're in Walmart, the quality of goods is going to suck.  But that doesn't mean there aren't any good stores with high quality items.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: Manedwolf on September 24, 2008, 08:35:28 AM
It all depends on where you shop, I suppose.  If you're in Walmart, the quality of goods is going to suck.  But that doesn't mean there aren't any good stores with high quality items.

Like?
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: Headless Thompson Gunner on September 24, 2008, 08:37:55 AM
I just bought myself a new shirt at Brooks Brothers.  Top quality stuff all around in that store.  Course, their prices aren't anything like Walmart's.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: Manedwolf on September 24, 2008, 08:44:30 AM
I just bought myself a new shirt at Brooks Brothers.  Top quality stuff all around in that store.  Course, their prices aren't anything like Walmart's.

I haven't seen a Brooks Brothers in over a decade. I didn't even know there were any more. I've seen malls where they used to be, but now those malls have more just redundant stores full of the same low-grade "blah" mentioned by others as well.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 24, 2008, 08:49:18 AM
Boy, I wish I had enough money to get "retail fatigue." 

I buy half of my clothes at thrift stores.  No fatigue there, because there's usually only one of anything, and you can get very good stuff for a dollar or five. 

For pants and socks, I look high and low to find my peculiar preferences in my size, at a reasonable price.  Target stopped carrying those really good socks they used to sell (cheaper than the Gold Standard Thor-Lo combat book socks, but almost as good).  But I have recently discovered kakhi carpenter pants that come in well under twenty bucks.  The color is a bit light for pants (attracts stains), but I was looking to start wearing something a bit dressier than jeans.  Gotta have that cell phone pocket on the side, people.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: RevDisk on September 24, 2008, 08:54:57 AM
I just bought myself a new shirt at Brooks Brothers.  Top quality stuff all around in that store.  Course, their prices aren't anything like Walmart's.

They don't have any short sleeved button down shirts that are professional looking in my neck size.  And often, their colour selection isn't what I'd like.  BB has a thing against solid colours, especially in greys and dark blues.  I think they're just conspiring to make me get custom fitted for the extra loot.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: Manedwolf on September 24, 2008, 09:01:15 AM
It's not so much anything to do with price, more just that it's hard to find anything of quality, only quantity.

And I know I just see no appeal in the vast glut of low quality in vast quantity. It's just "I don't need anything in this store. There is nothing I even want in this entire store." Just nothing unique, and every store in every town has the same stuff. Even as said among the guns, generic plastic muzzle-loaders and .22s.

I found an old Woolworth shirt once, vintage. That can't have been that expensive, but it was really, really well-made. Plus someone said that stores like that once even sold milsurp guns. Sears sold guns.

I can't even imagine that. That must have been more interesting, I'd think.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on September 24, 2008, 09:03:33 AM
Yep, I've noticed it too.

I'll hit the end of the week.  Nothing broke, I was pretty frugal all week, and I still have $50 left from my "allowance."

(FYI:  I give myself $200 a week for gas, groceries, dog food, car maintenance, clothing, dates, entertainment, etc.)

I'll wander through Walmart, Target, the local mall, Best Buy, Home Depot, Borders, Harbor Freight... nothing catches my eye.  No movies, no video games, no tools, no books.

It's all junk now.  I stick the extra money in the gunsafe now, sock it away for roadtrips.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: Harold Tuttle on September 24, 2008, 09:29:26 AM
I did find something interesting
Target has domokun stuff for halloween this year

Maybe I will transfer a couple to the cat food isle
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: HankB on September 24, 2008, 10:01:21 AM
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I found an old Woolworth shirt once, vintage. That can't have been that expensive, but it was really, really well-made. Plus someone said that stores like that once even sold milsurp guns. Sears sold guns.

I can't even imagine that. That must have been more interesting, I'd think.
Sears sold guns via mail order . . . a long time ago.

I remember the sporting goods section of a Sears store when I was a kid . . . walk up and down the aisles, and you'd come on an aisle with a rack of guns. Shotguns and rifles, and they WERE locked down . . . but they weren't behind a counter, they were just right there across from footballs and stuff, lined up on a regular shelf.

As I got older, the shelf got smaller . . . and smaller . . . and eventually disappeared altogether before I hit my teens.  sad

This was at the big Sears store on Western Avenue . . .  in Chicago.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: Harold Tuttle on September 24, 2008, 10:23:17 AM
I remember Ted Williams shotsguns
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: 280plus on September 24, 2008, 11:14:37 AM
I have to say, sadly enough, I gave away a Sears .22 auto rifle many years ago. Still kicking myself in the ass, for being such an ass.  undecided

In my defense it was jamming really funny like one live round stuck behind another and tough kind of dangerous feeling to clear so I figured it was done. Didn't know much about them back then. I think it was made by Savage if I'm not mistaken.  sad
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: taurusowner on September 24, 2008, 11:18:19 AM
Somebody needs to invent pet rocks.

Or a Jump to Conclusions Mat.



I will say that whenever a new video game comes out, it's still just as hard to find a copy as it always has been, unless you preorder.  With all the talk of a recession and people spending less and all that, there are still millions of people who spend money on stuff like video games on release day.  When Rock Band 2 came out, it took me days to find a copy.  Apparently someone was buying them.  Take that for what it's worth.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: BridgeRunner on September 24, 2008, 11:27:48 AM
I am firmly in the "I don't have enough money to get tired of buying stuff" camp.  I mostly buy quality stuff and I am pretty poor, which means that the shopping process takes a lot more time and effort.  I wish that I could do the things I want/need to do without buying stuff, but it's difficult, and so I keep buying stuff. 

I buy business clothes mostly at Pendleton, some Lands' End and Coldwater Creek (womens clothes only there) as well.  Only on sale/clearance, for well under half price.  I've been buying running gear from Playmakers, a local activewear/shoe store focused on running.  I buy camping gear mostly from REI.  I monitor all those stores--the online ones anyway--for clearances and sales, and buy clothes ahead for the next season once they get discounted. 

Nah, I'm not running out of fun and interesting ways to spend money.  I tend to run out of money long before that point. 

And I agree, Brooks Brothers makes some nice stuff.  They have an outlet-type store in a mall in metro Detroit and we've found some nice stuff there for good prices, when its clearanced out.  Only trouble is their women's clothes only go up to size 12. 
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: MechAg94 on September 24, 2008, 12:56:57 PM
I am trying to remember when "analysts" predicted or got a "Good" holiday season.  It seems to me that almost every year the news talks to someone who is complaining because the year isn't as good as they wanted. 
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: freedom lover on September 24, 2008, 01:50:16 PM
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Everything, or mostly everything, is of poor quality.

Last year I watched It's A Wonderful Life (colorized version) for the millionth time. Dang! George had a nice suit, good shoes, his freakin SLACKS had one of those little jeans pockets. Back then everyone dressed fancy and men wore hats.

I think that ever since then the quality of clothes has gone down. Now you can't buy stuff of that quality for the equivilent price. George may not have had 12 shirts, but those he had were much better than mine.

Good clothes are dissapearing. I'd never even seen factory cuffed pants until a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: Balog on September 24, 2008, 02:07:07 PM
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Everything, or mostly everything, is of poor quality.

Last year I watched It's A Wonderful Life (colorized version) for the millionth time. Dang! George had a nice suit, good shoes, his freakin SLACKS had one of those little jeans pockets. Back then everyone dressed fancy and men wore hats.

I think that ever since then the quality of clothes has gone down. Now you can't buy stuff of that quality for the equivilent price. George may not have had 12 shirts, but those he had were much better than mine.

Good clothes are dissapearing. I'd never even seen factory cuffed pants until a few weeks ago.

And Lord knows movies are the most accurate representation of the way people really dress.  rolleyes
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: freedom lover on September 24, 2008, 02:28:06 PM
I don't just get my facts from movies.

My dad was born in 1952. The people in his community were low low middle class on down. He remembers little details from the 50's and 60's. Haircuts, car models, and even things like high backed sedans and men wearing hats on the streets (he must have been very young at the time.) Back then gas was 35 cents a gallon and women often wore dresses.

I am no fashion expert. I mostly take my dad's word that clothes were of better quality. He was there to see them. So was my grandfather. Hell, I know for a fact that guns were hand- fitted back then.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: freedom lover on September 24, 2008, 02:31:59 PM
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dressed fancy

Obviously I meant compared to today. Nobody wears fedoras and wool suit jackets to work now.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: Balog on September 24, 2008, 02:35:33 PM
People did wear fancier clothes "back in the day." But would you really want to live in a society where you have to put on a suit to go to the grocery store or be looked at as some filthy hippy?
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: MicroBalrog on September 24, 2008, 02:39:09 PM
People did wear fancier clothes "back in the day." But would you really want to live in a society where you have to put on a suit to go to the grocery store or be looked at as some filthy hippy?

This!

Down where I live, fancy clothes are impossible.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: MicroBalrog on September 24, 2008, 02:41:17 PM
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I found an old Woolworth shirt once, vintage. That can't have been that expensive, but it was really, really well-made. Plus someone said that stores like that once even sold milsurp guns. Sears sold guns.



Yes, that's true.

You could actually mail-order Hotchkiss cannon until 1968 hit.

And so help me God, I plan to live to see the day when the political climate changes to the point where I'll be able to do so.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: freedom lover on September 24, 2008, 02:47:20 PM
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where you have to put on a suit to go to the grocery store or be looked at as some filthy hippy

Heck no!

I just like the idea of being able to buy decent quality clothes for decent prices, not to mention it being socially acceptable for a guy to wear the same (clean) shirt more than once a week. It would also be great to not be thought of as strange for a man to not take a shower every day.

The 50's certainly were not ideal times. I am no hopeless romantic.

Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: 280plus on September 24, 2008, 02:51:19 PM
Far as my grandpa was concerned if you went out without a tie, coat and hat on you were pretty much a cretin. After he retired he'd get up every day, put on a tie and sit on that chair in the corner of the kitchen all day. I could never understand his need for the tie when he didn't go anywhere all day. They were just wierd back then.  laugh
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: Bigjake on September 24, 2008, 04:11:50 PM
I did find something interesting
Target has domokun stuff for halloween this year

Maybe I will transfer a couple to the cat food isle

quoted for bringing the lolz.  laugh
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: wmenorr67 on September 24, 2008, 05:56:00 PM
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I will say that whenever a new video game comes out, it's still just as hard to find a copy as it always has been, unless you preorder.  With all the talk of a recession and people spending less and all that, there are still millions of people who spend money on stuff like video games on release day.  When Rock Band 2 came out, it took me days to find a copy.  Apparently someone was buying them.  Take that for what it's worth.

The one question I would like to see answered is how are people paying for this?  Cash money on the spot or on credit.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 24, 2008, 07:44:30 PM
This thread is disturbing.  It sounds like some of us are wandering the aisles at department stores, searching desperately for something, anything, that we just can't live without. 

People did wear fancier clothes "back in the day." But would you really want to live in a society where you have to put on a suit to go to the grocery store or be looked at as some filthy hippy?
Nope.  Jackets, hats and ties are not always realistic in American climes.

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It would also be great to not be thought of as strange for a man to not take a shower every day.
I would just consider it smelly.  Why don't you like to shower every day? 

Plus someone said that stores like that once even sold milsurp guns. Sears sold guns.

I heard some old dudes discussing that just the other day. 

I am trying to remember when "analysts" predicted or got a "Good" holiday season.  It seems to me that almost every year the news talks to someone who is complaining because the year isn't as good as they wanted. 

Yup.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: Manedwolf on September 24, 2008, 07:58:15 PM
It would also be great to not be thought of as strange for a man to not take a shower every day.

Well, to be honest, if you don't shower everyday, people don't think you're strange. They just think you smell. They won't say anything to you, just talk about you.

Seriously, there. People sometimes can't pick up on it themselves, but if they don't shower every day, to other people, they smell.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on September 24, 2008, 08:04:08 PM
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This thread is disturbing.  It sounds like some of us are wandering the aisles at department stores, searching desperately for something, anything, that we just can't live without. 

Not so much that, as:

I've been good (financially) this pay period, and I'm bored.  I'd like to find a neat new toy to play with.  Some new hobby perhaps, or a tool that augments an existing hobby.  What is available at this store that might be interesting to try out?

It's an interesting revelation when there is absolutely nothing inside of a 90,000 square foot store that can engage your interest because it is all plasticized, lead-painted, poorly constructed crap.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: Balog on September 25, 2008, 05:51:11 AM
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where you have to put on a suit to go to the grocery store or be looked at as some filthy hippy

Heck no!

I just like the idea of being able to buy decent quality clothes for decent prices, not to mention it being socially acceptable for a guy to wear the same (clean) shirt more than once a week. It would also be great to not be thought of as strange for a man to not take a shower every day.

The 50's certainly were not ideal times. I am no hopeless romantic.



^^
1. Blame the unions for the loss of American manufacturing jobs. 3rd world sweatshops will always be cheaper, but we could at least be competitive without all the BS regulations.
2. I occasionally wear the same shirt a couple times, if I have an undershirt on and do nothing strenuous enough to sweat it up.
3. Take a shower you damn hippy.  laugh




As for the OP, there's a ton of thing's I'd like. Motorcycle, new computer(s) and better monitors for the existing, Saiga rifle and shotgun, matching "his & hers" 1911's for me and the wife, and of course books. I could spend every cent I make on books and not have enough. But we've already got about as many bookshelves as we can reasonably fit in our apartment, and they're stacked 2 deep on the sagging shelves.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: MillCreek on September 25, 2008, 07:02:25 AM
I am the first to admit that if I am near one, I often wander into a Borders, Barnes and Noble, Half-Price Books or other bookstore with no actual purchase in mind.  I will go through the remainder and sale racks just to see if something piques my interest.  If so, I buy it.  This is the major reason why I have some 400 cookbooks at home, almost none of them bought at the cover price.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: White Horseradish on September 25, 2008, 07:32:26 AM
If you are at Walmart and can't think of something to buy, there is always the sporting goods counter with a 100 box of Winchester .45 or 9mm. There is no such thing as too much ammo unless you live on a boat.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: Manedwolf on September 25, 2008, 07:33:54 AM
If you are at Walmart and can't think of something to buy, there is always the sporting goods counter with a 100 box of Winchester .45 or 9mm. There is no such thing as too much ammo unless you live on a boat.

Dirty stuff. Hate it. S&B is cleaner AND cheaper. I tried it once, I have never seen my poor P220 look like a charcoal smoker chimney as with that crap.

Plus it's $5 more per box at Walmart than either Blazer Brass or S&B at a local gun store. Explain that?
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: roo_ster on September 25, 2008, 07:44:03 AM
If you are at Walmart and can't think of something to buy, there is always the sporting goods counter with a 100 box of Winchester .45 or 9mm. There is no such thing as too much ammo unless you live on a boat.

Dirty stuff. Hate it. S&B is cleaner AND cheaper. I tried it once, I have never seen my poor P220 look like a charcoal smoker chimney as with that crap.

Plus it's $5 more per box at Walmart than either Blazer Brass or S&B at a local gun store. Explain that?

You get an exceptional deal on ammo at he local gun store?

WWB is even dirtier than Wolf.  I'll still buy it and shoot it, though, as it is the cheapest reloadable ammo in my area.

I would prefer S&B, but it is found locally only at local gun shops at twice the cost of WWB.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: White Horseradish on September 25, 2008, 08:07:37 AM
Dirty stuff. Hate it. S&B is cleaner AND cheaper. I tried it once, I have never seen my poor P220 look like a charcoal smoker chimney as with that crap.

Plus it's $5 more per box at Walmart than either Blazer Brass or S&B at a local gun store. Explain that?
I'd explain it if I'd ever seen it. At this point, the best deal in my neck of the woods is Sportsmans Guide, and in 9mm Wolf is the same as WWB.

Besides, don't you like cleaning your guns?  laugh
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: Manedwolf on September 25, 2008, 08:11:05 AM
I don't know, it seems like they realized that if they get in lots of cheap ammo and price it lower, it moves quickly, and people buy guns, too. Shockingly new business model there. Wink

As for cleaning, I don't mind cleaning. I do mind when I'm on the fifth patch or so and it's still black.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: freedom lover on September 25, 2008, 11:55:46 AM
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Take a shower you damn hippy.

I'm no damn hippy.  angry angry angry

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Why don't you like to shower every day? 

I don't like showering because I have to get up at 5:40 to do it.
I'd rather sleep a little longer. High school starts early enough as it is. It also makes my skin feel funny.

That said, I do shower, I just don't like to.
Besides, a little body odor should be tolerated like it used to.

The key word is a little.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: Balog on September 25, 2008, 12:01:25 PM
Just teasing FL. Did I forget the smilie?

I just shower at night before bed. Never understood the "I'll get nice and clean, then go out and get all sweaty and nasty before climbing into bed like that. Ick.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: 280plus on September 25, 2008, 12:22:01 PM
My favorite was the guy who didn't shower ANY day and smelled so bad someone finally told him about it. So the next day he came in smelling like a years worth of BO intermingled with deodorant, which only made it worse. Like we're talking a whole new form of funk here. Even worse than a goat.  shocked

 cheesy
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: freedom lover on September 25, 2008, 12:34:31 PM
That's funny.

Edit: I feel kinda sorry for you. I just couldn't stop laughing.

 grin grin
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: Balog on September 25, 2008, 02:41:00 PM
My favorite was the guy who didn't shower ANY day and smelled so bad someone finally told him about it. So the next day he came in smelling like a years worth of BO intermingled with deodorant, which only made it worse. Like we're talking a whole new form of funk here. Even worse than a goat.  shocked

 cheesy

Stinky hippy, meet Mr Hose. Mr Hose, meet stinky hippy.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: Tallpine on September 25, 2008, 02:44:29 PM
You guys don't know nothin' about BO until you've ridden on the short haul car on the Alaska Railroad Wink

Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: 280plus on September 25, 2008, 03:35:34 PM
Oh, I don't know, this guy had a little closet where he kept the ciggies and he used to go in there to do the count. I would have to go in there to get him to sign off on my paperwork. I swear the funk hit you at the door like a friggin' WALL. He had like this impenetrable funk force field.  laugh
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 25, 2008, 05:39:20 PM
I just shower at night before bed. Never understood the "I'll get nice and clean, then go out and get all sweaty and nasty before climbing into bed like that. Ick.

Well, yeah. 

Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: BridgeRunner on September 25, 2008, 05:45:52 PM
Even worse than a goat.  shocked

Seriously dude, stop sniffing the goat.  You should not have a basis for comparison here...
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: wmenorr67 on September 25, 2008, 07:14:20 PM
Even worse than a goat.  shocked

Seriously dude, stop sniffing the goat.  You should not have a basis for comparison here...

At least it goes to show how he knows fistful so well. grin
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: 280plus on September 26, 2008, 02:40:10 AM
Oh, you don't have to get very close to a goat to smell it.  laugh
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: MicroBalrog on October 09, 2008, 12:30:36 PM
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It's all junk now.  I stick the extra money in the gunsafe now, sock it away for roadtrips.

Buying more guns, comrade: You should try it.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on October 09, 2008, 01:28:23 PM
Buying more guns, comrade: You should try it.

Nah... I've got plenty.  What I need is expertise on the ones I do have.  Only so much that 1 guy can do with a dozen long guns and another dozen handguns.  I've been paring down, keeping the regular carry guns and the particularly meaningful ones that I don't shoot but really like.  Eliminating silliness from the long gun safe.

What's the good of SKS's, Daewoos, AK's and FALs cluttering up my safe and chewing into my shooting time when I'm perfectly happy with my M14 and AR-15?  At this point, I want to be able to claim that I've shot out the barrels on each of these rifles, and have my gunsmith re-barrel the M14 after 7500 rounds or so, depending on how it lasts.  I wanna do my AR myself as it starts to open its groups up.

I'll start buying more guns when I've got family to put in some trigger time with me.  Until then, I'm pretty good with what I have.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: Manedwolf on October 09, 2008, 01:36:14 PM
Nah... I've got plenty.  What I need is expertise on the ones I do have.  Only so much that 1 guy can do with a dozen long guns and another dozen handguns.  I've been paring down, keeping the regular carry guns and the particularly meaningful ones that I don't shoot but really like.  Eliminating silliness from the long gun safe.

What's the good of SKS's, Daewoos, AK's and FALs cluttering up my safe and chewing into my shooting time when I'm perfectly happy with my M14 and AR-15?  At this point, I want to be able to claim that I've shot out the barrels on each of these rifles, and have my gunsmith re-barrel the M14 after 7500 rounds or so, depending on how it lasts.  I wanna do my AR myself as it starts to open its groups up.

I'll start buying more guns when I've got family to put in some trigger time with me.  Until then, I'm pretty good with what I have.

If Obama wins, you won't be able to buy any of those guns again.

Ever.

How many people who were of age to buy machine guns before 1986 now regret not doing so?
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: Headless Thompson Gunner on October 09, 2008, 01:58:39 PM
If he doesn't want those guns in the first place, he shouldn't keep them for fear of not being able to buy them in the future.

I get where he's coming from.  Far more useful to have just a few guns that do what you want and that you can shoot well, than to have a safe full of guns aren't useful to you and that you don't shoot well.  Better to concentrate your resources where they'll do the most good. 

And, I know this may seem like heresy to some, but there's more to life than owning guns.  Those resources could do all sorts of other useful non-gun things for him, instead of being tied up in the gunsafe needlessly.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: coppertales on October 09, 2008, 03:00:55 PM
We used to go mall cruising but, as said above, all the stores now carry the same things.  I have not been going to gun shows either because the golden age of milsurps is over and ammo is too expensive now.  I really don't need anything so I don't go store cruising.  I used to go just to babe watch but the younger generation, the ones that still have nice bodies, are porkers, hefers, etc.  Doesn't anyone take pride in their looks anymore......chris3
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: lee n. field on October 09, 2008, 04:46:09 PM
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Shopping for things no longer has attraction for some basic reasons.

- Everything is the SAME, from far too many of the same stores with the same stuff.

- Everything, or mostly everything, is of poor quality.

Noticed this?  Dambetcha I have.

I can't handle malls.  End to end, not one thing I want. 

Not.  One.  Thing.

I don't even like to go to Border's anymore.  My interests anymore tend to be a bit specialized (http://www.amazon.com/Pauline-Eschatology-Geerhardus-Vos/dp/0875525059/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1223585020&sr=8-1).

The only place I can handle is the gun store.  The real one, not Gander Mountain.

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How many TVs do you need?

Zero.  It's a waste of your precious time.  They should pay you to watch.

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The troubled with you "jaded" consumer guys is you have rich inner lives.

Don't you know that inner emptiness is the reason behind shopoholism? grin

I 'spect so.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: MicroBalrog on October 09, 2008, 08:37:06 PM
If Obama wins, you won't be able to buy any of those guns again.

Ever.

How many people who were of age to buy machine guns before 1986 now regret not doing so?

And there are hundreds of thousands of people who bought machine guns after 1986 that will one day regret doing that too.

Same like all the people who bought pre-ban rifles at triple the price in 2003 lived to regret that.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: Manedwolf on October 09, 2008, 08:42:32 PM
And there are hundreds of thousands of people who bought machine guns after 1986 that will one day regret doing that too.

Same like all the people who bought pre-ban rifles at triple the price in 2003 lived to regret that.

They will not ever be legalized again. There's no way that will ever happen.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: MicroBalrog on October 09, 2008, 08:45:49 PM
They will not ever be legalized again. There's no way that will ever happen.

Is your real name Morris Sheppard?
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: 2swap on October 09, 2008, 09:07:25 PM
They will not ever be legalized again. There's no way that will ever happen.

\begin{satire}The Obamareich will last a thousand years!\end{satire}
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 09, 2008, 11:37:59 PM
Blasphemy!!  The Obama will rule over us and over our children for time unending!  For Peace is in His Right Hand, and, lo, Government Cheese He beareth even in His Left Hand.  May His reign be glorious. 
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: lee n. field on October 10, 2008, 03:05:53 PM
<kent_brockman>I for one welcome our new Chicago (spit!) overlords.</kent_brockman>
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: BryanP on October 13, 2008, 08:40:31 AM
I don't like showering because I have to get up at 5:40 to do it.
I'd rather sleep a little longer. High school starts early enough as it is. It also makes my skin feel funny.

I get up at 5am every day.  My solution is to take a shower before I go to bed.  Weird idea, I know.

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That said, I do shower, I just don't like to.
Besides, a little body odor should be tolerated like it used to.
The key word is a little.

If you don't like being clean then get used to being alone.  Or dating hippie chicks.   :laugh:
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: roo_ster on October 13, 2008, 10:04:57 AM
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I don't like showering because I have to get up at 5:40 to do it.
I'd rather sleep a little longer. High school starts early enough as it is. It also makes my skin feel funny.

That said, I do shower, I just don't like to.
Besides, a little body odor should be tolerated like it used to.

The key word is a little.

That "funny feeling" is also known as, "clean," and it is a Good Thing.

I suggest an enlistment in one of the armed forces.  They'll get you on the road to good personal hygiene right quite.

If the USA was a poor nation where clean bodies and clean clothes were a luxury, I would be sympathetic.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: roo_ster on October 13, 2008, 10:05:26 AM
Oh, and wash your hands--with soap--after using the toilet.
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: Tallpine on October 13, 2008, 01:11:58 PM
Back when I was a kid, I had to take a bath once a week whether I needed it or not  :laugh:
Title: Re: Retail fatigue: Anyone else notice this?
Post by: freedom lover on October 13, 2008, 04:36:12 PM
I do shower and wash my hands. When the hell did this become "beat up on FL day"?

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If you don't like being clean then get used to being alone

If I barely sweat because its cold and I do no work, why is it bad if I put off showering for a day? I don't mind being relatively alone and if someone has a problem with the way I smell when my family can barely smell me, its not my problem.

I don't really care if many people decide not to like me. Most people are real losers anyway and would be worthless as friends.