Armed Polite Society

Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: Tuco on November 04, 2008, 08:27:36 AM

Title: Obama Voters
Post by: Tuco on November 04, 2008, 08:27:36 AM
We've got a few here at the office.  The typical young, naive, female (24 ish) comes over showing off her Obama pin.

She - "You vote yet?"

Me - "Not yet, I'll do it at lunchtime.  You?"

She - "No.  But I will, I need to cancel out your vote.  -pause-  But I don't know where to go.  Regina (friend) said we can find out online."
Title: Re: Obama Voters
Post by: Standing Wolf on November 04, 2008, 08:54:51 AM
Quote
"No.  But I will, I need to cancel out your vote.  -pause-  But I don't know where to go.  Regina (friend) said we can find out online."

Didn't anybody tell her Democrats vote Wednesday, November 5?
Title: Re: Obama Voters
Post by: ramis on November 04, 2008, 08:58:11 AM
20 bucks says she's not registered.  :lol:
Title: Re: Obama Voters
Post by: wmenorr67 on November 04, 2008, 08:59:39 AM
We've got a few here at the office.  The typical young, naive, female (24 ish) comes over showing off her Obama pin.

She - "You vote yet?"

Me - "Not yet, I'll do it at lunchtime.  You?"

She - "No.  But I will, I need to cancel out your vote.  -pause-  But I don't know where to go.  Regina (friend) said we can find out online."

Priceless.  I am with ramis.  She probably didn't even register.
Title: Re: Obama Voters
Post by: makattak on November 04, 2008, 09:19:34 AM
Priceless.  I am with ramis.  She probably didn't even register.

You know, I moved into my new apartment Sep 15.

I got my voter registration changed nearly immediately.

I went online, found my polling place.  I mapped it out last month. I made the drive last week to make sure I had the address and name correct.

I actually care about the process and know the history of the candidates.

Yet my vote will get cancelled out by someone who thinks "He's so DREAMY!"

I can't help but feel there's something wrong with that...
Title: Re: Obama Voters
Post by: wmenorr67 on November 04, 2008, 09:21:23 AM
Was watching Fox News this morning and they brought up the fact that the college age kids all seem involved but then they don't vote.  They are the key to this election again.  If they don't vote Obama doesn't win.
Title: Re: Obama Voters
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 04, 2008, 09:28:28 AM
Yet my vote will get cancelled out by someone who thinks "He's so DREAMY!" 

But you gotta admit; he's dreamy. 
Title: Re: Obama Voters
Post by: cosine on November 04, 2008, 09:51:16 AM
Was watching Fox News this morning and they brought up the fact that the college age kids all seem involved but then they don't vote.  They are the key to this election again.  If they don't vote Obama doesn't win.

On campus this morning I passed three different groups of students on the same block handing out Obama stickers and posters and urging people to vote. This sounds un-democratic, but I hope they don't get around to voting. (The again, I probably shouldn't care about sounding un-democratic... we're a constitutional republic, not a democracy.)
Title: Re: Obama Voters
Post by: K Frame on November 04, 2008, 09:53:09 AM
'I have to cancel out your vote!'

Response...

"You can't. I vote 4 times.'
Title: Re: Obama Voters
Post by: Jim147 on November 04, 2008, 10:01:20 AM
Vote early and vote often!
Title: Re: Obama Voters
Post by: BrokenPaw on November 04, 2008, 10:07:16 AM
I have to wonder whether some Obama supporters might believe that he has it so "in the bag" that they won't even bother to go vote for him, knowing that he's already won.

Wouldn't that be a little piece of joy, if such thinking turned the election.  :)

-BP
Title: Re: Obama Voters
Post by: Ex-MA Hole on November 04, 2008, 10:20:00 AM
Was watching Fox News this morning and they brought up the fact that the college age kids all seem involved but then they don't vote.  They are the key to this election again.  If they don't vote Obama doesn't win.

I was approached while walking in downtown Concord by a swarm of Obama 20-somethings....all preaching how it is hip to vote for Obama...they were touting that he is the voice of America, and the voice of the youth....I aksed them where he stood on ANY issue, they stared at me dumbfounded.

Led me to believe that we are not electing a President, but rather a king of the prom.
Title: Re: Obama Voters
Post by: Manedwolf on November 04, 2008, 10:27:36 AM
I was approached while walking in downtown Concord by a swarm of Obama 20-somethings....all preaching how it is hip to vote for Obama...they were touting that he is the voice of America, and the voice of the youth....I aksed them where he stood on ANY issue, they stared at me dumbfounded.

Led me to believe that we are not electing a President, but rather a king of the prom.

Why couldn't they have run into a bunch of Free Staters? You could have watched a massive cripple fight until the cops showed up to arrest them all. =D
Title: Re: Obama Voters
Post by: Ben on November 04, 2008, 10:32:35 AM
Quote
I asked them where he stood on ANY issue, they stared at me dumbfounded.

I was visiting the folks this weekend. Their entrance from the public road is like a 1/4  mile from their house, and my dad had put a McCain sign and a "Yes on 8" (CA prop that preserves definition of marriage) sign there. When I drove in, the McCain sign had been torn out and looked like it had been stomped on. The Yes on 8 sign was left alone. I can but assume it was hip to rip the McCain sign out, but they had know idea what the prop was about (typical for most CA voters unfortunately), so left it alone.
Title: Re: Obama Voters
Post by: Manedwolf on November 04, 2008, 10:36:52 AM
I was visiting the folks this weekend. Their entrance from the public road is like a 1/4  mile from their house, and my dad had put a McCain sign and a "Yes on 8" (CA prop that preserves definition of marriage) sign there. When I drove in, the McCain sign had been torn out and looked like it had been stomped on. The Yes on 8 sign was left alone. I can but assume it was hip to rip the McCain sign out, but they had know idea what the prop was about (typical for most CA voters unfortunately), so left it alone.

You know, there's an interesting irony that I think is going to bite the CA liberal sorts in the backside. This time, or soon.

They're for changing the definition of marriage to expand gay marriage.

They're also for unlimited immigration, including illegal immigration. Plus allowing even the illegal ones to vote.

What do most Mexicans tend to be, even the illegal ones, in religious leanings?

Catholic. HARDCORE Catholic.

How are they going to vote on the gay marriage issue?

Hee hee hee... ;)

Title: Re: Obama Voters
Post by: AJ Dual on November 04, 2008, 10:39:20 AM
Yep, same thing that happened in WI.

The anti-gay marriage amendment passed something like 60/40 here back in '06. However, it turned out all the socially conservative blue collar and religious Democrats in droves, and our corrupt Dem Governor won handily, and we lost a house of the legislature and any chance of getting veto overrides on him.
Title: Re: Obama Voters
Post by: buzz_knox on November 04, 2008, 10:40:55 AM
I was approached while walking in downtown Concord by a swarm of Obama 20-somethings....all preaching how it is hip to vote for Obama...they were touting that he is the voice of America, and the voice of the youth....I aksed them where he stood on ANY issue, they stared at me dumbfounded.

Led me to believe that we are not electing a President, but rather a king of the prom.

There had been a lot of Obamanauts at various gatherings around here.  For some reason, they never asked if I wanted to register to vote.  I guess I was the wrong demographic for them:  I tend to think I look like I have more brain cells than the Good Lord gave a turnip.
Title: Re: Obama Voters
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on November 04, 2008, 10:44:31 AM
Talked with my 23 year old little brother yesterday.

He was going to vote Obama.

When asked why:  "Because he stands for young people, and for poor people... and I'm poor.  So I'll get more if I vote for him."

Showed him some quotes and youtubes of Obama disrespecting the Bill of Rights.

Talked to him about the importance of amendments 1, 2, 4, 5 and 10 in particular, showed how Obama would eat them alive.  Talked about the difference between government powers and peoples' rights.  He loved it and swallowed it up.

Talked about what rich people do with their money... invest.  How do people get jobs?  From other people who have money to invest in new companies.  From stock market investments that create corporate expansion.  If investments are taxed higher, then there is less profit and less likelihood for investment.  This means less jobs for poor people.

I think it swayed him.

One less Obamatron. =D
Title: Re: Obama Voters
Post by: SteveS on November 04, 2008, 12:32:43 PM
Talked with my 23 year old little brother yesterday.

He was going to vote Obama.

When asked why:  "Because he stands for young people, and for poor people... and I'm poor.  So I'll get more if I vote for him."

Showed him some quotes and youtubes of Obama disrespecting the Bill of Rights.

Talked to him about the importance of amendments 1, 2, 4, 5 and 10 in particular, showed how Obama would eat them alive.  Talked about the difference between government powers and peoples' rights.  He loved it and swallowed it up.

Talked about what rich people do with their money... invest.  How do people get jobs?  From other people who have money to invest in new companies.  From stock market investments that create corporate expansion.  If investments are taxed higher, then there is less profit and less likelihood for investment.  This means less jobs for poor people.

I think it swayed him.

One less Obamatron. =D

Most of the Obama supporters I know personally are reasonably intelligent and well informed, so there isn't anything I can say to away them.  About the only chance I have is with a few people in my family that don't really like either candidate, but I think I can convince them that they should dislike Obama more and "vote for disaster, rather then catastrophe."
Title: Re: Obama Voters
Post by: zahc on November 04, 2008, 12:35:05 PM
My wife was honestly depressed last night after talking to her young female friends from OH and finding out that they were often voting for Obama. She was really going through disillusionment regarding the character of her friends.
Title: Re: Obama Voters
Post by: Bob F. on November 04, 2008, 12:47:36 PM
My 27 yr old son suprised me. Churchill said something to the effect:"If a young man is not a liberal, he has no heart. If a mature man is not a conserative, he has no brain."  Somehow Obama came up in conversation the other day. " I can't stand that SOB" speaks the son! I guess I have had some good influnce on the lad.

Stay safe, and lock & load!

Bob
Title: Re: Obama Voters
Post by: freakazoid on November 04, 2008, 01:09:44 PM
Quote
showed how Obama would eat them alive.

 :O
Title: Re: Obama Voters
Post by: French G. on November 04, 2008, 05:06:34 PM
On the college age vote the political quote of the year goes to that dork James Carville. He said we have a word for a presidential candidate that relies on the youth vote. "Loser." Let's hope.
Title: Re: Obama Voters
Post by: MechAg94 on November 04, 2008, 05:33:40 PM
My 27 yr old son suprised me. Churchill said something to the effect:"If a young man is not a liberal, he has no heart. If a mature man is not a conserative, he has no brain."  Somehow Obama came up in conversation the other day. " I can't stand that SOB" speaks the son! I guess I have had some good influnce on the lad.

Stay safe, and lock & load!

Bob
I really hate that quote.  Being a liberal in his day was very different IMO.  Conservative as well. 
Title: Re: Obama Voters
Post by: MechAg94 on November 04, 2008, 05:35:39 PM
Was watching Fox News this morning and they brought up the fact that the college age kids all seem involved but then they don't vote.  They are the key to this election again.  If they don't vote Obama doesn't win.
I have heard that all the polls showing Obama with a huge lead got that result by assuming a large turnout among young and African American voters.  I am not sure how they get to that, but it tells me that the polls are saying exactly what the pollsters want them to say.  I don't know how this will all turn out though. 
Title: Re: Obama Voters
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on November 04, 2008, 05:38:54 PM
do they factor in 1/3 of black men of age being disenfranchised?
Title: Re: Obama Voters
Post by: Leatherneck on November 04, 2008, 06:11:26 PM
The only polls that matter are just about to begin closing.

TC
Title: Re: Obama Voters
Post by: AJ Dual on November 04, 2008, 06:17:38 PM
do they factor in 1/3 of black men of age being disenfranchised?

Do they factor in a significant percentage of them voting anyway?

Here in WI with same-day registration, fraudulent ACORN names on the list, and no photo-ID requirement, they will be.