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Title: Sentiments for Sarah Palin
Post by: txgho1911 on November 06, 2008, 09:17:44 PM
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/11/06/send-a-message-to-sarah-palin/

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Title: Re: Sentiments for Sarah Palin
Post by: Monkeyleg on November 06, 2008, 11:19:45 PM
Somebody wants to destroy her before she can get any further. I'm trying to think of a Republican who would benefit, but can't. I wonder if some of the McCain staffers were really Democrat infiltrators? I've seen that happen in campaigns.
Title: Re: Sentiments for Sarah Palin
Post by: Headless Thompson Gunner on November 06, 2008, 11:22:49 PM
Somebody wants to destroy her before she can get any further. I'm trying to think of a Republican who would benefit, but can't. I wonder if some of the McCain staffers were really Democrat infiltrators? I've seen that happen in campaigns.
Any of the RINO establishment "country clubber" type Republicans would benefit.  So, only half the Party wants her dead and buried.
Title: Re: Sentiments for Sarah Palin
Post by: Regolith on November 06, 2008, 11:30:14 PM
Somebody wants to destroy her before she can get any further. I'm trying to think of a Republican who would benefit, but can't. I wonder if some of the McCain staffers were really Democrat infiltrators? I've seen that happen in campaigns.

I've heard that Romney might have something to do with it, but it was pure speculation.  Something about pro-Romney staffers wanting to keep Palin from running in '12 so that Romney can try for it again, but there was no proof.  I'm not even sure how Romney got fingered in the first place...

I think it's likely, however, that the staffers are trying to keep '12 open for SOMEONE that's not Palin, though.
Title: Re: Sentiments for Sarah Palin
Post by: Eleven Mike on November 06, 2008, 11:39:02 PM
Somebody wants to destroy her before she can get any further. I'm trying to think of a Republican who would benefit, but can't. I wonder if some of the McCain staffers were really Democrat infiltrators? I've seen that happen in campaigns.


Jealousy would explain a lot of it.  I don't think McCain's staff realized how popular she would be with one side, and how despised by the other.  They thought they were just getting a token conservative to placate the base, and a woman to snare a few female votes.  I don't think they realized that Palin's popularity would eclipse McCain's, or that she would inspire so much hatred, fear and lunacy on the left.  These are people who think you win campaigns by playing it safe.
Title: Re: Sentiments for Sarah Palin
Post by: Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas on November 07, 2008, 02:10:15 AM
Rush's take on it:
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_110608/content/01125106.guest.html

It could be partly McCain. This was probably his last chance to run for president, and I expect that he's pretty seriously ticked off at losing. He wanted Lieberman as VP, but had to pick Palin to placate the conservatives. Probably thinks that if they'd done it the way he wanted, he'd have won the presidency.
Title: Re: Sentiments for Sarah Palin
Post by: nate.45 on November 07, 2008, 08:45:19 AM
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Rush's take on it:
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_110608/content/01125106.guest.html

Everyone should read that, if it wasn't for Palin I never would of voted for McCain. Something tells me that if he would have won he would be signing most all of the big government legislation that will be coming down the pike. The McCains and Lindsay Grahams need to be drummed out of the party. :mad:
Title: Re: Sentiments for Sarah Palin
Post by: txgho1911 on November 07, 2008, 10:35:53 AM
Petition was closed due to some unnecessary roughness. More than 10k comments where submitted in just a few hours time.
Title: Re: Sentiments for Sarah Palin
Post by: Tallpine on November 07, 2008, 11:23:27 AM
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if it wasn't for Palin I never would of voted for McCain

Me, too.
Title: Re: Sentiments for Sarah Palin
Post by: Ben on November 07, 2008, 02:44:41 PM
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Me, too.

Me three. I recognized that she didn't have the experience other potential running mates had, but to me, she embodied most of the core, "classic Republican" beliefs that are important to me as a Republitarian. I would guess that for every "independent"voter McCain lost because of Palin, he gained three base votes that would have otherwise been write-ins for someone else, or stay at homes.
Title: Re: Sentiments for Sarah Palin
Post by: makattak on November 07, 2008, 03:00:43 PM
Me three. I recognized that she didn't have the experience other potential running mates had, but to me, she embodied most of the core, "classic Republican" beliefs that are important to me as a Republitarian. I would guess that for every "independent"voter McCain lost because of Palin, he gained three base votes that would have otherwise been write-ins for someone else, or stay at homes.

Yet another one in that category.

I was almost as frightened of the idea of a McCain presidency as I was of an Obama.

The nomination of Palin gave me hope that there was now a lower chance of a disastrous McCain presidency (I thought it was 50/50, but that's way better than the 90/10 I had thought previous to her nomination.)
Title: Re: Sentiments for Sarah Palin
Post by: MrRezister on November 07, 2008, 03:03:12 PM
^ Same here.  I was really encouraged to see her on the ticket!  I hope she tries again.
Title: Re: Sentiments for Sarah Palin
Post by: roo_ster on November 07, 2008, 03:23:37 PM
Yep, if McCain has slapped another RINO on the ticket, he would not have gotten my vote.
Title: Re: Sentiments for Sarah Palin
Post by: Northwoods on November 07, 2008, 05:49:24 PM
Yet another one in that category.

I was almost as frightened of the idea of a McCain presidency as I was of an Obama.

The nomination of Palin gave me hope that there was now a lower chance of a disastrous McCain presidency (I thought it was 50/50, but that's way better than the 90/10 I had thought previous to her nomination.)
Yet another one here.  I was hoping that McCain would pull off an upset and then vapor-lock after 731 days in office.  Enough time to get Sarah up to speed to be able to effectivly take over, and give the potential of a day shy of 10 years in office.
Title: Re: Sentiments for Sarah Palin
Post by: Jamisjockey on November 07, 2008, 06:01:59 PM
This is why she needed some more seasoning and probably a national post before taking a run.  She's naive and is being raked over the coals for it.
Title: Re: Sentiments for Sarah Palin
Post by: nate.45 on November 07, 2008, 07:52:00 PM
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She's naive and is being raked over the coals for it.

As soon she stuck a cord with the base, the media, Dems and who knows maybe even some RINO Reps, pulled out all the stops to destroy the publics perception of her. What the country club republicans are doing to her is shameful.

As the days go by I feel more and more foolish for not sticking to my guns and opposing McCain, I seriously doubt we would be able to tell much difference between him and Obama(despite his campaign rhetoric) when it came to signing the new big government socialist bills. Gun legislation? McCain would sign 'reasonable' restrictions in a heart beat. SCOTUS? Gang of 14 ring a bell? Don't lose to much sleep over McCain not getting elected.
Title: Re: Sentiments for Sarah Palin
Post by: SteveS on November 07, 2008, 11:24:49 PM
^ Same here.  I was really encouraged to see her on the ticket!  I hope she tries again.

I know that Newsweek is not the most unbiased source, but this should be able to be verified.  When I read stuff like this about Palin, it certainly doesn't impress me.  It just smacks of pettiness and rudeness:

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Steve Schmidt spoke briefly with the reporters. "Are you happy with the campaign?" he was asked. He answered: "I think we did our absolute best in really difficult circumstances … It is highly doubtful that anyone will have to run in a worse political climate than the one John McCain had to run in this year." Another reporter asked if he was happy with "the pick of Palin." He ducked the question. Schmidt was trying, not very hard, to hide his true feelings. He had been compelled to personally take over Palin's debate prep when she seemed unwilling to engage in the drudge work of learning the issues. McCain's advisers had been frustrated when Palin refused to talk to donors because she found it corrupting, and they were furious when they heard rumors that Todd Palin was calling around to Alaska bigwigs telling them to hold their powder until 2012. The day of the third debate, Palin refused to go onstage with New Hampshire GOP Sen. John Sununu and Jeb Bradley, a New Hampshire congressman running for the Senate, because they were pro-choice and because Bradley opposed drilling in Alaska. The McCain campaign ordered her onstage at the next campaign stop, but she refused to acknowledge the two Republican candidates standing behind her. McCain himself rarely spoke to Palin (perhaps once a week when they were not traveling together, estimated one adviser). Aides kept him in the dark about Palin's spending on clothes because they were sure he'd be offended. In his concession speech, McCain praised Palin, but the body language between them onstage was not particularly friendly. (Palin had asked to speak; Schmidt vetoed the request.)

from:  http://www.newsweek.com/id/168017/output/print (http://www.newsweek.com/id/168017/output/print)
Title: Re: Sentiments for Sarah Palin
Post by: Monkeyleg on November 08, 2008, 12:05:34 AM
Ok, Palin is getting big coverage about all of this in the mainstream media without any corroboration. Just "unnamed sources." This despite the fact that, after she was selected, there were more reporters combing Alaska for dirt on her than there are residents in that state.

They didn't find much. But now we're to believe that she doesn't know that Africa is not a country, that she's a thief and a shopaholic, that she throws temper tantrums over news coverage, and that she greets the staff wearing only a towel?

When we finally find out--if we ever do--who gave the MSM this story, and if it's all false, does anyone believe the media will cover that story?

I've never seen a candidate ravaged by the media as she has been. I really think she's had more negative coverage than Nixon did over the same length of time during Watergate.
Title: Re: Sentiments for Sarah Palin
Post by: SteveS on November 08, 2008, 09:26:24 AM
Dick, it makes it hard for me to get a solid picture of her.  I'd like to throw in my support behind a decent candidate, but it is hard to get any unbiased information.  The MSM savaged her to the point where I am very skeptical of any future reports.  At this point, I am rather neutral towards her and now that the election is over I am looking forward to watching how she governs Alaska. 
Title: Re: Sentiments for Sarah Palin
Post by: txgho1911 on November 08, 2008, 07:51:34 PM
Given the McCain machine feedback and as liberal as he is plus the media grief it just reinforces that simple conservatism and reforming the party is the right direction to go.
Who else are we going to turn to for restaffing the RNC.
Title: Re: Sentiments for Sarah Palin
Post by: Nitrogen on November 09, 2008, 11:25:47 PM
if it wasn't for Palin I never would of voted for McCain.

Strangely enough, if it wasn't for Palin, I WOULD have voted for McCain.  Strange, huh?
Title: Re: Sentiments for Sarah Palin
Post by: Waitone on November 10, 2008, 05:25:47 AM
Quote from: Monkeyleg
I'm trying to think of a Republican who would benefit, but can't.
Dick, put the keyboard and mouse down and smack yourself upside the haid.  The entire eastern elite republican tribe would benefit by Palin quitting.  She is a threat the same as Reagan;  she has all the equipment and skills to simply bypass the eastern media and talk directly to Joe and Martha Sixpack.  Such a threat can not be ignored.  The lady is too much of a threat to entrenched power and money.
Title: Re: Sentiments for Sarah Palin
Post by: MicroBalrog on November 10, 2008, 05:40:35 AM
Dick, put the keyboard and mouse down and smack yourself upside the haid.  The entire eastern elite republican tribe would benefit by Palin quitting.  She is a threat the same as Reagan;  she has all the equipment and skills to simply bypass the eastern media and talk directly to Joe and Martha Sixpack.  Such a threat can not be ignored.  The lady is too much of a threat to entrenched power and money.

Word!

These were the SAME people who opposed Goldwater during his run.

These were the SAME people who opposed and did their best to destroy any actually CONSERVATIVE candidate for the Presidency in the past 50 years or more.

These are also the people who brought you McCain. These are also the people who brought to both Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. (now that Obama has won, we can happily admit that they weren't good Presidents or even conservative presidents).

Yes, Palin had made some errors while talking about foreign policy, and yes, she is not perfect. Nobody is perfect.

She was however the most conservative political candidate to be part of a Presidential ticket since Reagan left office. THAT is valuable.
Title: Re: Sentiments for Sarah Palin
Post by: Ben on November 10, 2008, 08:01:20 AM
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Strangely enough, if it wasn't for Palin, I WOULD have voted for McCain.  Strange, huh?

Looks like my anecdotal stats were way off. By the looks of this thread, it's more like six for every one versus three for every one. :)
Title: Re: Sentiments for Sarah Palin
Post by: HankB on November 10, 2008, 03:05:26 PM
It could be partly McCain. This was probably his last chance to run for president, and I expect that he's pretty seriously ticked off at losing. He wanted Lieberman as VP, but had to pick Palin to placate the conservatives. Probably thinks that if they'd done it the way he wanted, he'd have won the presidency.
McCain lost by 6 points due to Sarah Palin. If he'd had Lieberman, then Bob Barr would've gotten into double digits and McCain would've lost by 15 points.

My attitude was summed up by a bumper sticker I saw:

"I'M VOTING FOR SARAH . . . and that old guy she's running with."
Title: Re: Sentiments for Sarah Palin
Post by: Jamisjockey on November 10, 2008, 03:11:56 PM
I heard a soundbite....and I think it was Rush....that this isn't about Palin:  Its about control of the GOP.  The centrists led by McCain and his ilk are in a power struggle with the new, young face of conservatism.  Jindal will be next, along with alot of other new young stars in the GOP being raked over the coals. 
Title: Re: Sentiments for Sarah Palin
Post by: agricola on November 10, 2008, 03:12:08 PM
McCain lost by 6 points due to Sarah Palin. If he'd had Lieberman, then Bob Barr would've gotten into double digits and McCain would've lost by 15 points.

My attitude was summed up by a bumper sticker I saw:

"I'M VOTING FOR SARAH . . . and that old guy she's running with."

Surely "McCain lost by 6 points due to Bush, an overwhelming disadvantage when it came to campaign finance, a hitherto-unprecedented amount of media bias against him and a suspiciously timed economic collapse" is more appropriate to the start of that piece?