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Title: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: roo_ster on November 19, 2008, 10:23:41 PM
Yeah, baybee!

My new Redwing logging boots came in, replacements for my finally-crapped-out Carolina logging boots.

http://www.redwingshoes.com/productdetails.aspx?prodid=1148

I put them on the first time and they were just plain right.  The Carolinas I had to fiddle with and find the right aftermarket insole.  These new puppies have the same insol as my other three pairs of Redwings.  No need for aftermarket insoles at all.

Steel toe, steel shank, 9" high.  I'll get them worn in a bit and then go after them with some Kiwi.  I also need some black boot laces.  Brown laces are Just Not Right on a black boot.
• Black Chrome leather loggers boot
• Durable, high-traction Vibram® Tacoma unit sole
• ASTM approved for toe impact and compression
• Electrical Hazard rated

I got them for 10% off 2007 prices.  Helps if you have bought three other pairs of boots from the same guy over the years and you introduced your buddy to him, who has bought five pair over the years.

Ought to last me many a year of hard work outside & hiking and will polish up fine for casual wear.


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Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 20, 2008, 02:14:06 AM
Sweeeeet!  Nothin' like a new pair of loggers.   =) 

I need a pair myself.  In fact, that boot looks like precisely what I need.  But since I also had to buy some new snow-shovelin' boots, I won't have any Red-Wing-level money.  Did get a good deal on some insulated snow boots, though.  I think. 

Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: LAK on November 20, 2008, 03:30:44 AM
I bought a brand new pair of 'roo leather Irish Setter Wingshooters at less than half retail on the EvilBay. I normally wear a 9 1/2; led to believe 'Setters tend to run small I ordered a 10. They fit like gloves, have the old style stitched welts, and are just superb.

I usually avoid buying footwear online, but knowing they are a perfect fit I bought a similar built pair of chukkas. There is something about a pair of well made leather shoes or boots; like a fine leather belt and holster etc, and footwear is something I am usually prepared to pay for the right stuff.

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Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: freakazoid on November 20, 2008, 03:39:38 AM
Are Redwing boots good? Pricey aren't they?
Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: roo_ster on November 20, 2008, 05:55:05 AM
Are Redwing boots good? Pricey aren't they?

They are good.

Pricey depends.  Initial outlay relative to other boots?  Yup.  In terms of $$/time or $$/wear, they run cheaper than Wally-World boots.
Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: De Selby on November 20, 2008, 06:21:37 AM
They are good.

Pricey depends.  Initial outlay relative to other boots?  Yup.  In terms of $$/time or $$/wear, they run cheaper than Wally-World boots.

Never owned Redwings, but I do wear danner boots-similar pricing, and yeah, over the years it's worked out to about 30 dollars a year for some really good quality footwear.

I just wish resoles were cheaper-they're getting up to almost half the price of the boot now; won't belong before it's simply more feasible to just trash that friendly old leather for a new pair.
Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: Cobalt60 on November 20, 2008, 08:12:14 AM
They are good.

Pricey depends.  Initial outlay relative to other boots?  Yup.  In terms of $$/time or $$/wear, they run cheaper than Wally-World boots.

Yup. You get what you pay for. I tried the economy way once. Never again.
Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: Declaration Day on November 20, 2008, 08:19:10 AM
Red Wing boots are superb.  I Went to Gander Mountain a couple of years ago to pick up some reloading supplies, and they had a huge sale on boots.  I normally won't pay more than $30 for footwear, but they had Red Wing Irish Setters for $40 (They were a discontinued model).

  I grabbed my size 13's and when I got to the counter they rang up for $24.  Unfortunately I bought the only size 13; at that price I would have bought four pairs and been set for life.
Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: Jamisjockey on November 20, 2008, 08:49:28 AM
This is what I need next:

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Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: Ron on November 20, 2008, 08:55:07 AM
Redwings were all I wore for years as my work boots. Love em.

For hiking and backpacking the only boot I found that fit and felt right was made by Vasque. Turns out Vasque at some point was bought by Redwing, figures. 
Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on November 20, 2008, 09:53:29 AM
Thoooooooooose are lumberjack boots and they're okay... :angel:
Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: roo_ster on November 20, 2008, 11:01:05 AM
Never owned Redwings, but I do wear danner boots-similar pricing, and yeah, over the years it's worked out to about 30 dollars a year for some really good quality footwear.

I just wish resoles were cheaper-they're getting up to almost half the price of the boot now; won't belong before it's simply more feasible to just trash that friendly old leather for a new pair.

Resoles run somewhere in the neighborhood of $50-$75 for RW.  Either at the factory or a place in Texas.

$20-$30/year is what they cost me, initial purchase price-wise.  I probably use a tin of Kiwi per year, too.

I recall a pair of Wally-World work boots lasting me a whopping 5 weeks, one summer. 
Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: French G. on November 20, 2008, 01:01:14 PM
Quote
Thoooooooooose are lumberjack boots and they're okay... angel

Took long enough, I was afraid I was going to have to get in this thread and start that.

...    I cut down trees. I wear high heels, Suspendies, and a bra. I wish I'd been a girlie, Just like my dear Papa... =D
Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: Gewehr98 on November 20, 2008, 02:23:12 PM
He puts on women's clothing, and hangs around in bars?  =D
Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: Brad Johnson on November 20, 2008, 03:23:26 PM
Redwing is one of the best values in footwear.  A bit more pricey than the big-box store stuff, but they last darn near forever.

Brad
Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: K Frame on November 20, 2008, 03:52:04 PM
Oh, He's a lumberjack, and he's OK!
Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: Brad Johnson on November 20, 2008, 04:14:13 PM
Well, poop.  I just looked on the RedWing site and they no longer carry any style of wingtip.  Dang.  I knew I should have gotten an extra pair last year.  =|

On the upside it's time for a new pair of boots and they just remodeled the local store! =D

Brad
Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: roo_ster on November 20, 2008, 04:49:59 PM
For the record, I am not sure doing residential and commercial tree removal in urban & suburban areas during HS & college makes me a lumberjack, but I can assure you I wore no "high heels, Suspendies, and a bra." 

Though, since it was in the summers in Arkansas, I went commando. I hope that's"OK."
Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on November 20, 2008, 04:59:05 PM
For the record, I am not sure doing residential and commercial tree removal in urban & suburban areas during HS & college makes me a lumberjack, but I can assure you I wore no "high heels, Suspendies, and a bra." 

Though, since it was in the summers in Arkansas, I went commando. I hope that's"OK."

[crickets... glancing at one another... strange looks]  =|

Ohhhh!  He's a lumberjack and he's OK! =D
Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas on November 20, 2008, 05:00:27 PM
Quote
Though, since it was in the summers in Arkansas, I went commando. I hope that's"OK."

I understand your were Airborne?
It's true, then. There is something wrong with people who jump out of perfectly good airplanes.  :lol:
Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: Brad Johnson on November 20, 2008, 05:01:54 PM
Though, since it was in the summers in Arkansas, I went commando. I hope that's"OK."

That's ... well ... I'm not quite sure what that is.  But I am sure it's very, very disturbing.

Brad
Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: 41magsnub on November 20, 2008, 05:03:28 PM
As long as there were pants involved and not a utility kilt I'm cool with commando.

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Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 20, 2008, 05:13:02 PM
This is one of those threads that needs cleaned up.  :(  I can't believe we got into class warfare over somebody's high-end logger boots.  Logger boots, for cryin' out loud!  Yeah, I know they're getting really popular with the sculling teams, as they chat with their brokers about their Swiss accounts.   :rolleyes:  I'm gonna go buy an ascot and top hat for jfruser.  Black, of course. 

Edit:  This post and the following don't make much sense, since the thread actually got cleaned up.  Oh well.  I still enjoy the thought of a very proper gentleman, dressed for a night at the opera in high style, with black logger boots.  :D
Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: Marnoot on November 20, 2008, 05:24:04 PM
I'm gonna go buy an ascot and top hat for jfruser.  Black, of course. 

Don't forget the cane!
Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: Racehorse on November 20, 2008, 05:32:47 PM
Actually, I think the monacle and cigarette holder are more important than the cane.
Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 20, 2008, 05:56:33 PM
Good points, all.  Puttin' on the ritz...
Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: French G. on November 20, 2008, 07:40:40 PM
Speaking of snobbism, what insulated high end boot that is made in the USA should I buy? I'm thinking Danner, I want to plunk down cash for some really nice boots and am pretty tired of seeing made in China on used to be US brands.
Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: De Selby on November 20, 2008, 07:51:23 PM
Speaking of snobbism, what insulated high end boot that is made in the USA should I buy? I'm thinking Danner, I want to plunk down cash for some really nice boots and am pretty tired of seeing made in China on used to be US brands.

Be sure you get a USA tag on those danners then-I noticed that a lot of the new danners are made in China too.

I found a nice brand down here in Australia, though they're not work boots the same as ours: R.M. Williams.  Excellent quality, not made in China, and a pretty good selection.
Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: 280plus on November 20, 2008, 07:59:54 PM
That's ... well ... I'm not quite sure what that is.  But I am sure it's very, very disturbing.

Brad
I'd list it under waaay too much information.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: Regolith on November 20, 2008, 08:05:39 PM
I got a pair of Redwing boots about 4 years ago that are still going strong.  Granted, I don't really wear them that much, but they've held up longer than any of the cheap boots I've ever had, and are a lot more comfortable.
Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: vaskidmark on November 21, 2008, 07:39:46 AM
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I think this is what he's trying to say.

stay safe.

skidmark
Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: BMacklem on November 21, 2008, 08:37:19 AM
I can't resist the temptation,
but what's wrong with going commando under a utili-kilt?
or any kilt for that matter?
If none of you people have ever worn a kilt (of any sort) , you'd be astounded at just exactly how many women (attractive ones too) try to lift up the kilt to see what you are wearing under that kilt, and that alone is worth the price of wearing one in my humble opinion, I speak from experiance here.
Now I just have to use the standard responses for when I'm asked "What is worn under your kilt?"
to which you say "Absolutely nothing is worn....everything is in fine working order under my kilt..." etc.ect.etc...
Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: Iain on November 21, 2008, 09:01:52 AM
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I think this is what he's trying to say.

stay safe.

skidmark

It would help if that was spelt properly.
Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: SADShooter on November 21, 2008, 10:09:37 AM
French G.:

I you want a quality, American-made boot that will give you years of service. I heartily recommend boots from Russell Moccasin Co. They're hand made and custom fitted. I invested in a pair of hunting boots, and they are the best, most comfortable footwear I've ever owned.

SADShooter
Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: French G. on November 21, 2008, 10:49:03 AM
Looks like Russell is it. Next time I trip over $600 I think I get a full thinsulated set of Sheep Hunter's.

No, I'm not rich, a point for people to consider that are angry at money is the theory of buy once, cry once. I'm 33, with luck they can bury those boots with me in 60 some years.
Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: Boomhauer on November 21, 2008, 10:54:56 AM
I firmly believe that shoes are some of the more important clothing items you can buy. Particuarly if you are on your feet for long periods.

Therefore, spending a hundred, or a couple hundred, or even several hundred for quality footwear that is worn day in, day out, and hopefully for several years, is most certainly not out of line.

Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: SADShooter on November 21, 2008, 11:07:48 AM
I was fitted at the Dallas Safari Club convention where Russell hosts a booth. I have High Country Hunters with 200 gram Thinsulate, 8" high as the fitter recommended for my chunky calves. They are fantastic for the mixed Texas Hill Country terrain I wear them in. I have "issues" with my feet: no arches, high insteps, bad Achilles tendon, different leg lengths, and the attendant back problems.

As with all boots, taking them off feels good, but not half as good as wearing them all day afield and not thinking about my feet.

(Edited for tiepo)
Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 21, 2008, 01:13:43 PM
It would help if that was spelt properly.

Ownedddddddddddddd.


Therefore, spending a hundred, or a couple hundred, or even several hundred for quality footwear that is worn day in, day out, and hopefully for several years, is most certainly not out of line.

Exactly.  They can be a very solid investment, like any other tool. 
Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: K Frame on November 22, 2008, 12:26:12 AM
OK, this thread has been cleansed of the whining crap and back and forth childish bickering that crept in.

If anyone wants to continue to talk about boots, that's fine.

Want to continue to be a pissy little prat, take it to PM.


Just for the record, I had a set of redwings I got VERY lightly used at a thrift store for $15 bucks. Never did understand why they were there.

That was just before I started college in 1983.

I wore them VERY hard through college, including working summers surveying with my Father, hunting, hiking, etc. They finally gave up the ghost when the soles on both boots split in the winter of 2001.

Nearly 20 years out of a set of $15 boots.
Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 30, 2008, 12:13:39 AM
Between the high-end Redwings and the Wal-Mart specials, there are some decent boots out there in the $60-$150 range.  What brands do you all like, in that price range? 

For work boots, I've worn mostly Carolinas.  I've also had a pair of Georgias that were not so good.  Chippewas have always looked good to me, but I've never had any. 

I needed some new boots for work, and I got me these Carolina loggers, last night, with steel toe and water-proofer lining.  Had to go cheap, although Dad-in-law helped with some Christmas money.  These were priced at about $100. 

Split stove-wood all day at Dad's house again, and also hiked down into the woods a little ways, to play with the .45.  Them boots felt just fine. 

I always buy some insoles for my boots, too.  And wear big, thick socks. 
Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: roo_ster on November 30, 2008, 09:30:59 AM
Carolinas are a decent boot.  The last pair lasted me through 1/2 of a re-sole.

They do require a quality inner sole, though, and must be bought/sized accordingly.

Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 30, 2008, 11:50:04 AM
Do the RedWingers come with a good insole? 

I just spent the past three-and-a-half hours shoveling snow, and right now I can't even tell I'm wearing these boots.  I don't think I've ever had a pair that fit this good from the start. 
Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: roo_ster on November 30, 2008, 09:49:31 PM
Do the RedWingers come with a good insole? 

I just spent the past three-and-a-half hours shoveling snow, and right now I can't even tell I'm wearing these boots.  I don't think I've ever had a pair that fit this good from the start. 

Dear mother of Paul Bunyan, yes.

All mine (4 pair, now) have the same insole.  My oldest pair I have had resoled (outer) and am halfway through that re-soling.  The insole is still going strong and will outlast the exterior leather, which I take good care of by way of cleaning and a good coat of Kiwi paste when it is called for.
Two pair like this, but black (no longer available in black, will have to substitute http://www.redwingshoes.com/productdetails.aspx?prodid=1429):
http://www.redwingshoes.com/productdetails.aspx?prodid=1159
One pair like this:
http://www.redwingshoes.com/productdetails.aspx?prodid=1766
And my latest is detailed in the OP.

It is a firm/resilient rubbery-foamy sorta deal.  It has give, but will not squish down to nothing or take a permanent set/shape.

Size them to fit and forget about the insole.

Avoid any outer sole that is clear or has "2.0" in its name.  They wear/feel good, they just can not be re-soled.  I see fewer of them than in years past, though, so I think that particular "high tech feature" has not gone over well.  Stick with the old-school outer sole(s) and the old insole.

To give you an idea how I wear my Redwings, I wear quality Gold Toe white or black cotton athletic socks in warm months and GI 50% wool (balance nylon & cotton) boot socks in cold months.  The common thread being they are all the same thickness (not very).  I avoid thick socks like the plague.  No need for the aftermarket insole & sock thickness balancing act.  Stick with quality medium-thickness socks and go.
Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: Tallpine on November 30, 2008, 10:53:04 PM
Carolina boots are okay.  The pair I have now is about 12 years old and just about wore out.  That includes some commercial logging use and fighting wildfires.  I bought them through Bailey's and had them drop-shipped.
Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: Perd Hapley on December 01, 2008, 12:26:37 AM
I avoid thick socks like the plague.  No need for the aftermarket insole & sock thickness balancing act.  Stick with quality medium-thickness socks and go.

My thick socks aren't there for a tighter fit.  I guess I just like them because of the extra cushioning.  After I tried the Thor-Lo socks they sold at the PX, I could no longer tolerate those worthless GI socks.  The problem is finding a comparable sock at a price I can afford.  They have to be thick enough, big enough for my size 13s, long enough to stick up over the 8-9" loggers, and BREATHE.  That last requires a wool/acrylic/nylon blend, in my experience.  I used to buy some medium-weight Mossimos at Target, but they've been discontinued, and are wearing out rather quickly. 

Unfortunately, I have never been very satisfied with any of the cold-weather socks I've found.  They always seem to slide around too much.  ???

Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: SADShooter on December 01, 2008, 09:48:35 AM
Smartwool socks. Pricey, but worth it.
Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: Racehorse on December 01, 2008, 10:58:42 AM
Smartwool socks. Pricey, but worth it.

They're good, but I've found the REI brand imitation to be just as good. I actually like them a little better, and they're quite a bit cheaper than the Smartwool brand.
Title: Re: Hooray! My New Logging Boots Came In!
Post by: SADShooter on December 01, 2008, 11:19:25 AM
Ooh! Thanks for the tip. I'll check them out.