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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: Monkeyleg on December 03, 2008, 12:27:55 AM
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On Thanksgiving I felt sick, but didn't know what it was. On Friday I found out: one of my lower left molars was infected. I was sick in bed for two days straight before the antibiotics started to kick in. Still not 100%. My cheek was swelled about the size of a tennis ball. I must have been running a fever because, when I was able to sleep, I was having wild dreams. I was a zombie for three or four days.
I know the dentist will want to do a root canal, but this tooth has had two already. There's really nothing of the original left, so why keep it?
Amazing how a bad tooth can affect so many things, from vision to mental acuity to energy and more.
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Bummer. Having seen what such can do in others (but never experienced it myself), I have only a faint glimmer of what you've been through.
There's really nothing of the original left, so why keep it?
Stability of its neighbors? Teeth are dynamic in their sockets, just not very fast. When one goes, the others will gradually move into its place in the jaw, which can through the whole mouth into chaos with changing bite angles, pressure points and wear surfaces. Or so my dentists have told me.
Amazing how a bad tooth can affect so many things, from vision to mental acuity to energy and more.
If the infected tooth is causing a fever, what you have is one gnarly pocket of infection dumping bacterial toxins and cell debris from your cells into the blood stream.
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Problem with a deep seated infection like a molar is if not successfully treated it will result in a bone infection, something you do not want.
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I'm flossing as I type this.
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Typical British person here. I've had a root canal done on one of my teeth, and I'm only in my twenties. That was a slap in the face that has caused me to wake up a bit. It is amazing how distracting such ailments can be.
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I know the dentist will want to do a root canal, but this tooth has had two already. There's really nothing of the original left, so why keep it?
Two already, on one tooth.
Howzat work?
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Two already, on one tooth.
Howzat work?
Like a regular root canal. They clean out the old material and put in new.
I had two root canals on one tooth, plus two root surgeries, and a third to remove the root altogether.
I can't even begin to tell you how many times it abycessed over the years. I got to be an expert at using an insulin syringe and needle to vent the abycess to relieve the pressure until I could get to the dentist.
It finally snapped off about 18 months ago, leaving the stump of the remaining root. I'll have to eventually get it pulled and a bridge put in, but the other side of my upper jaw is more of a concern; I had to have a tooth pulled last February and now I need to get the bridge work done.
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Ahhh, no more stories.
I need more flossing. :O
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I can't even begin to tell you how many times it abycessed over the years. I got to be an expert at using an insulin syringe and needle to vent the abycess to relieve the pressure until I could get to the dentist.
You made me twinge.
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Two already, on one tooth.
Howzat work?
Multiple roots?
Problem with a deep seated infection like a molar is if not successfully treated it will result in a bone infection, something you do not want.
Pay attention to this ^^^!
Once bone becomes infected, it becomes useless and must be removed.
If it occurs in your leg bone and goes too far, you lose your leg, because the skeletal structure is no longer there to support the weight. Damn near lost my leg due to such an infection after surgery to fix a busted leg/ankle.
I can only imagine what sort of complications might arise if part of your jaw must be removed due to a bone infection.
OK, maybe I don't have to imagine:
Hey guys,
It is late so I'll try it keeps it as short as possible.
Some of you may remember me from a while back as I was having some problems with severe tooth pain a couple of years ago. Unfortunately I seen many specialists in England who did nothing to help me as I had diagnosises ranging from a possible infection, to neuralgia, and even psychosomatic symptoms.
I am currently living in Costa Rica and the health service here as so much better (not bad considing it is a third world country). I was treated here by the dentist, who then called the endodonist, and he rooted canaled the teeth but while doing it he then suspected something else wasn't right. He immediately called another specialist to come to the clinic to take a look, this specialist performs apisectomies and problems with the bones in the face. This guy took a quick look and immediately knew that I had a problem with the bones and that the jaw bone itself was infected. He told me that to wait would be a bad idea and decided to operate immediately. So he cut open the gums to get to the bone above my two front upper teeth to perform an apisectomy and to get a clear view on what was happening. When he opened up, the jaw bone was so infected that it had gone black. He told me that all this would need to be removed and took his time removing all of it and cutting off the roots of the teeth (a common practice during apisectomies). Unfortunately he had to remove so much infected bone that he then had to perform a bone graft to replace the old bone and to help regenerate some new healthy bone in its place. I was then given many injections in my rear end for pain and antibiotics, given a bunch of drugs to bring home with me to get me through the next few days and told to come back next week. He explained that the infection in the bone was pretty bad and he thinks he has removed most of it, however with it being chronic and in condition it was, the prognosis is only a 50% chance of success. But you know what, at least they are trying to do something to help me and not just telling me to go home and take some ibruphofen.
So has anybody ever had this experience before? What does it mean when the jawbone is going black? I'm guessing it is the bone dying right? I'd be interested in anybody's thoughts on this...
Thank you.
Once the infection has started to spread, your jawbone may start to dissolve as it makes room for the swelling in the area that has been infected. Once the bone starts to dissolve, the pressure will be greatly reduced, although the infection will still be there. Even though you will get relief, the infection will get worse - and the pain will always come back. Once more of the bone has been dissolved, there will be nothing left to support the tooth, meaning that it will become loose and end up needing to be extracted.
Moral of the story:
Brush, floss, and take care of your choppers!
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Amazing how a bad tooth can affect so many things, from vision to mental acuity to energy and more.
It's that ’sconsin air.
Seriously: my sympathies. If I could return to my misspent youth, I'd beg, borrow, or steal enough money to have all my teeth removed and replaced with genuine plastic.
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I also had my first root canal when I was in my 20's. May have been the same tooth. I've always attributed my bad teeth to my English ancestry.
The root canals haven't been bad, but the extraction of a molar was. The surgeon got the top part of the tooth, but the roots broke off, so he had to get in there with a pliers and crush them to remove them. The sound was really unnerving.
I called my dentist as soon as I realized I had an infection to get an RX for an antibiotic, so I don't think a bone infection will happen.
Standing Wolf, that's what my mother in law did when she was 16. She had all of her teeth removed. She had to go without teeth for months before the gums set properly so she could be fitted for dentures. She was already married at the time, so it didn't affect her ability to get guys. ;)
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I inherited my dad's "enhanced root structure" in my teeth.
My oldest daughter inherited it from me.
She had an RCT while she was in England.
They missed a root.
She had to have the remaining root done when she returned to the States.
She informs me that multiple root canals on the same tooth isn't any fun.
I can attest that having just one RCT on the same tooth isn't any fun.
Remind me to tell you about having a wisdom tooth cut out from the top, by "quadrifying" it with a high-speed drill.
Quite possibly the only dentistry I've had that was "more fun" than RCT.
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English dental hygiene and dentists are bad etc. Heard it before.
No fillings or anything here. Only teeth pulled were done for orthodontic work. Fine set of gnashers, they just ain't that funny shade of ridiculous blinding white so favoured across the water.
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Congratulations.
You're the exception to the ugly smile rule. :laugh:
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Stability of its neighbors? Teeth are dynamic in their sockets, just not very fast. When one goes, the others will gradually move into its place in the jaw, which can through the whole mouth into chaos with changing bite angles, pressure points and wear surfaces. Or so my dentists have told me.
That's why they replace them with bridges.
I learned my lesson: don't ignore your dentist. I had a condition they call "resorbtion" on the upper left toward the back (#14 for those keeping score). They said a tooth with resorbtion is being rejected by the body, and dying from the inside, often due to trauma (I couldn't think of any such). This was diagnosed just before I moved to another state to start a new job; the dentist advised me to have a root canal as soon as I got settled. I didn't, and a few months later I got a white-hot jolt through my head while chewing on some fajitas. Long story longer, went to a dentist, did a root canal; not enough solid tooth left to support a crown; had to have it pulled; it broke apart while they were pulling it; after it was out, there was a hole in the bone between the socket and the sinus above it. I couldn't blow up a balloon for years; the air would have leaked out of my mouth through the socket and come out my nose. The bridge has now been in place since 1995.
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The Big Book of British Smiles (http://www.actionfig.com/simpsons/db/?where=name,Big+Book+of+British+Smiles&)
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"I had a condition they call "resorbtion" on the upper left toward the back (#14 for those keeping score)."
That's exactly what was happening to the tooth I had root canaled twice.
The one root was being absorbed at the tip, causing abycesses there.
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I'd just finished brushing my teeth when I read this thread. Going back to do it again now.
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If the infected tooth is causing a fever, what you have is one gnarly pocket of infection dumping bacterial toxins and cell debris from your cells into the blood stream.
That'll cause some off-the-wall mental activity. My dad had it happen a few years ago when one of his meds clogged his kidneys. The resulting infection sent the stuff around and around. My mother, sister, and I spent a night sitting up with him in the hospital, watching him act out what was going on in his head. He relived some of his Navy days (tying and re-tying knots), shuffled and dealt poker hands, tried to prepare and eat several meals - he said later it was collard greens and cornbread, that it was so real to him he could smell it, but when he got the spoon to his lips it just disappeared; we watched while he brought the imaginary spoon to his lips and saw the disappointment on his face. It was spooky to watch him do all this stuff because he's slept like a rock all his life.
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Balog, floss! Don't forget to floss.
They're teeth are rotten because of 1. socialised medicine, 2. not flossing.
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I thought Dr. Hibbert was a GP, not a dentist?
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Get your teeth fixed now. Dentists who know the older ways of working on teeth without today's modern conveniences may be hard to find in the next economic age. After the obomination recovery.
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Balog, floss! Don't forget to floss.
They're teeth are rotten because of 1. socialised medicine, 2. not flossing.
Gawd. Kirk. Yer a lawyer, man. English is everything.
Pleeeeeze don't do that.
=D
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Balog, floss! Don't forget to floss.
They're teeth are rotten because of 1. socialised medicine, 2. not flossing.
I floss regularly, but my dentists don't seem to believe me when I tell em. I'm worried I may be doin it rong.
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I thought Dr. Hibbert was a GP, not a dentist?
Yep.
The Dentist also showed Lisa, not Ralph, the Big Book of British Smiles.
That was the episode where the nuke plant employees gave up their dental coverage for some minor concessions from Mr. Burns, then appointed Homer lead negotiator to get them back.
Lisa was singing old union organization-type songs at one point in the episode, before it devolved into a paen to The Grinch Who Stole Christmas.
Pretty damned funny.
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I use this floss almost exclusively: http://shopping.msn.com/specs/johnson-johnson-fluoride-waxed-floss-mint-50-yard/itemid786463940/?itemtext=itemname:johnson-johnson-fluoride-waxed-floss-mint-50-yard
If I cannot find J&J waxed mint, then I go with Crest Easy Glide floss.
I have those floss swords in my desk and use them inbetween my thrice daily brushings and flossings. You can get a big bag of them for very little money at Wal-Mart or Target.
There is a proper flossing technique and it used to be taught in schools (at least up North). However, now they need the time for Obama worship or teaching 10 year olds about condoms or some such teachers' union garbage.
Proper flossing: http://www.adha.org/oralhealth/flossing.htm
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FYI, Balog, the new power toothbrushes are doing a wonderful job.
At my last cleaning (last Monday), she only picked at my teeth for a few minutes before polishing them (minty orange, love that flavor).
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FYI, Balog, the new power toothbrushes are doing a wonderful job.
At my last cleaning (last Monday), she only picked at my teeth for a few minutes before polishing them (minty orange, love that flavor).
Do they really offer a significant advantage? I'd always thought they were more marketing hype than anything....
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Yes, the new power toothbrushes are fantastic, and becoming cheaper (the replacements heads were the expensive).
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I use the Sonicare Flexcare power toothbrush. I am very happy with it (more importantly, my dentist is happy with it).
Sonicare Flexcare toothbrush: http://www.amazon.com/Philips-Sonicare-RS930-FlexCare-Toothbrush/dp/B000TRQWBU
El Tejon's dentist=>http://www.eevansdds.com/drevans.html
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Geeziz, El Tejon, you must have teeth like Joe Biden. ;)
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Just my Yankee upbringing. =D
Dental Police=> :police:
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He wants to be prepared in case tshtf and he can't get gas for his lawnmower. Om nom nom.
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I thought Dr. Hibbert was a GP, not a dentist?
Details details.
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Yep.
The Dentist also showed Lisa, not Ralph, the Big Book of British Smiles.
That was the episode where the nuke plant employees gave up their dental coverage for some minor concessions from Mr. Burns, then appointed Homer lead negotiator to get them back.
Lisa was singing old union organization-type songs at one point in the episode, before it devolved into a paen to The Grinch Who Stole Christmas.
Pretty damned funny.
No, it was Ralph who was shown the BBoBS. What the dentist showed Lisa and Marge was a series of computer-generated projections of what Lisa would look like if she didn't get braces. He also showed her the medieval torture-device-braces they would've been able to afford without the dental plan. Still funny.
Homer: Gummy Joe! What if we didn't have our dental plan?
Gummy Joe (with 1 tooth): Well, I wouldn't have old Chopper here, that's for sure.
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Oh hell, you're right.
Ralph wasn't flossing, or something like that.