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Title: So, the 111th is underway.
Post by: Boomhauer on January 07, 2009, 07:43:21 PM
And they've introduced over 400 bills...I particularly like the one where Serrano wants to remove the 22nd Amendment so that Obama can be Emperor President for Life.

Wonderful...plenty of pork to go around, too.

http://www.clubforgrowth.org/2009/01/dumbness_on_the_first_day.php (http://www.clubforgrowth.org/2009/01/dumbness_on_the_first_day.php)

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January 7, 2009
Dumbness on the First Day

Over 400 bills were proposed by congressional members on the first day of business yesterday. Jim Harper offers up some of his "favorites". Here are ones that stuck out in my mind:

    Rep. Jose Serrano (D-NY), an obvious Obama fan, is proposing (H.J.Res. 5) "an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the twenty-second article of amendment, thereby removing the limitation on the number of terms an individual may serve as President.

    Rep. Brian Baird (D-WA) is proposing a bill (HR 14), "To provide for ocean acidification research and monitoring, and for other purposes." I love the opaqueness of the often used tag line: "for other purposes."

    Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee (D-TX) is proposing a bill (HR 73), "To provide for the collection of data on traffic stops."

    Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) is proposing (S. 38) "A bill to establish a United States Boxing Commission to administer the Act, and for other purposes." This chestnut is an long time favorite for McCain. The sport of boxing apparently is so out of control that it needs to be reigned in by the federal government.

Who were the most prolific bill writers? In the House:

    Elton Gallegly (R-CA): 19 bills
    Jose Serrano (D-NY): 16 bills
    Sheila Jackson-Lee (D-TX): 15 bills

In the Senate:

    David Vitter (R-LA): 34 bills
    Dianne Feinstein (D-CA): 24 bills
    Dan Inouye (D-HI): 23 bills

Now, not all proposals are big government spending plans. Rep. John Linder (R-GA) has re-introduced his favorite bill (HR 25) - to abolish the IRS and implement the Fair Tax. And Rep. John Campbell (R-CA) offered up a couple of gems. He wants to abolish the Appropriations Committee (H.Res. 17) and he wants to allow people who want higher taxes to be able to voluntarily send the federal government some of their extra money on their tax returns (HR 87).

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Title: Re: So, the 111th is underway.
Post by: seeker_two on January 07, 2009, 10:37:17 PM
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   Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) is proposing (S. 38) "A bill to establish a United States Boxing Commission to administer the Act, and for other purposes." This chestnut is an long time favorite for McCain. The sport of boxing apparently is so out of control that it needs to be reigned in by the federal government.

I'd support it only if McCain went to arrest Mike Tyson personally.....in the ring....  =D
Title: Re: So, the 111th is underway.
Post by: Physics on January 08, 2009, 02:31:59 AM
H.R.45 : To provide for the implementation of a system of licensing for purchasers of certain firearms and for a record of sale system for those firearms, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Rush, Bobby L. [IL-1] (introduced 1/6/2009)      Cosponsors (None)

H.R.17 : To protect the right to obtain firearms for security, and to use firearms in defense of self, family, or home, and to provide for the enforcement of such right.
Sponsor: Rep Bartlett, Roscoe G. [MD-6] (introduced 1/6/2009)      Cosponsors (None)
Title: Re: So, the 111th is underway.
Post by: MicroBalrog on January 08, 2009, 02:35:57 AM
I'd support it only if McCain went to arrest Mike Tyson personally.....in the ring....  =D

He's a real conservative and a fighter pilot. He'd get into Tyson's OODA loop.

Title: Re: So, the 111th is underway.
Post by: Jamisjockey on January 08, 2009, 07:40:58 AM
He's a real conservative and a fighter pilot. He'd get into Tyson's OODA loop.



While he's a tough old coot and yes, a former fighter pilot.....he's not a real conservative.
Title: Re: So, the 111th is underway.
Post by: Owens on January 08, 2009, 07:54:19 AM
This time around especially,  folks need to watch their congress critters like a hawk!
Presidential term limits
Congressional term limits
Real ID (at least that what I believe it to be - Withhold highway funding for non-compliance with ID issuance guidelines)
Lots of what they call 'private bills', whatever that is.
Abolish IRS in favor of a national sales tax - May not be a bad idea.

Not to mention that on the first day the house changed its rules to make it more difficult if not impossible for the minority to oppose or stop any legislation.

Watch em!
Title: Re: So, the 111th is underway.
Post by: Manedwolf on January 08, 2009, 09:27:42 AM
This time around especially,  folks need to watch their congress critters like a hawk!
Presidential term limits
Congressional term limits
Real ID (at least that what I believe it to be - Withhold highway funding for non-compliance with ID issuance guidelines)
Lots of what they call 'private bills', whatever that is.
Abolish IRS in favor of a national sales tax - May not be a bad idea.

Not to mention that on the first day the house changed its rules to make it more difficult if not impossible for the minority to oppose or stop any legislation.

Watch em!

New Hampshire passed a law of noncompliance with RealID, calling it "repugnant to the Constitution".
Title: Re: So, the 111th is underway.
Post by: MicroBalrog on January 08, 2009, 09:37:21 AM
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Congressional term limits

Congressional term limits are perfectly useless. If the Californians can no longer elect Feinstein, they'll just elect someone vaguely similar. And besides, I want guys like Paul Broun and Ron Paul to get re-elected again and again until they choose to quit.

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While he's a tough old coot and yes, a former fighter pilot.....he's not a real conservative.

Need I be using my irony tags?
Title: Re: So, the 111th is underway.
Post by: RevDisk on January 11, 2009, 06:43:44 PM
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Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) is proposing (S. 38) "A bill to establish a United States Boxing Commission to administer the Act, and for other purposes." This chestnut is an long time favorite for McCain. The sport of boxing apparently is so out of control that it needs to be reigned in by the federal government.

McCain has always disliked boxing.  But he's always hated MMA, and has done what he could to destroy it.  Had he been elected President, I have no doubts he would have found some way to outlaw the UFC.   That made any personal attempt to gain enthusiasm for him difficult at best... 
Title: Re: So, the 111th is underway.
Post by: HankB on January 12, 2009, 11:08:32 AM
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The sport of boxing apparently is so out of control that it needs to be reigned in by the federal government.
I'll say it is . . . how can you have a winner when both fighters are still on their feet! (Shout from the gallery . . . Fix! Fix!)
Title: Re: So, the 111th is underway.
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on January 12, 2009, 03:34:38 PM
That HR45 is a doozy.  The "Blair Holt Holier Than Thou Scapegoat and Gun Owner Harrassment Act of 2009."

Good bye to private transfers.

Good bye to "simple" 4473 checks.

Hello to state/fed intermingled licensing and capricious/arbitrary denial of permits.
Title: Re: So, the 111th is underway.
Post by: Manedwolf on January 12, 2009, 03:48:52 PM
That HR45 is a doozy.  The "Blair Holt Holier Than Thou Scapegoat and Gun Owner Harrassment Act of 2009."

Good bye to private transfers.

Good bye to "simple" 4473 checks.

Hello to state/fed intermingled licensing and capricious/arbitrary denial of permits.
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Prohibits transferring or receiving a qualifying firearm unless the recipient presents a valid firearms license, the license is verified, and the dealer records a tracking authorization number. Prescribes firearms transfer reporting and record keeping requirements. Directs the Attorney General to establish and maintain a federal record of sale system.

HELLO! STATE'S RIGHTS?!

That would invalidate NH's Constitution! :O
Title: Re: So, the 111th is underway.
Post by: MicroBalrog on January 12, 2009, 03:49:53 PM
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HELLO! STATE'S RIGHTS?!

Goodbye. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn)
Title: Re: So, the 111th is underway.
Post by: seeker_two on January 13, 2009, 04:33:38 PM
...and to make matters worse, the Texas Legislature started their session today....

....just when I thought I'd have a dollar to spare this year....  =(
Title: Re: So, the 111th is underway.
Post by: Manedwolf on January 13, 2009, 04:37:15 PM
...and to make matters worse, the Texas Legislature started their session today....

....just when I thought I'd have a dollar to spare this year....  =(

Apparently, they're trying to ban a sort of knife that opens too easily with one hand. Kershaw knives...they want them reclassified as illegal switchblades.
Title: Re: So, the 111th is underway.
Post by: ELSORDO on January 13, 2009, 05:47:18 PM
It's not just Kershaw, most makers of quality knives today offer "assisted opening" models.  The user must start the opening process (typically by moving a thumb stud on the blade) and when the blade begins to open a spring finishes the action.  Very neat and very fast and legal most everywhere.
Title: Re: So, the 111th is underway.
Post by: charby on January 13, 2009, 05:49:04 PM
That HR45 is a doozy.  The "Blair Holt Holier Than Thou Scapegoat and Gun Owner Harrassment Act of 2009."

Good bye to private transfers.

Good bye to "simple" 4473 checks.

Hello to state/fed intermingled licensing and capricious/arbitrary denial of permits.

Worries me too. Hopefully it dies in committee.

-Charby
Title: Re: So, the 111th is underway.
Post by: MechAg94 on January 14, 2009, 01:13:08 PM
Is there a new law banning all state's rights. 
Title: Re: So, the 111th is underway.
Post by: HankB on January 14, 2009, 04:09:24 PM
Note that HR45 is being pushed by Chicago's Bobby Rush, who first achieved notoriety as a co-founder of the Illinois chapter of the Black Panther Party.
Title: Re: So, the 111th is underway.
Post by: seeker_two on January 14, 2009, 06:00:54 PM
Is there a new law banning all state's rights. 

Nope....all the old ones banning states' rights are in effect....  ;/
Title: Re: So, the 111th is underway.
Post by: 209 on January 16, 2009, 03:18:01 AM
The bill to remove the 22nd Amendment worries the heck out of me.

But I found this tidbit:

http://www.usconstitution.net/constamprop.html

As an example of the tenacity of some ideas, the desire to repeal the 22nd Amendment is a very popular one. Using the Thomas database, we searched all the way back to the 99th Congress, which started in 1985, for proposals to repeal the 22nd. In 2005, there was a great deal of discussion, and derision, of a new proposal to repeal the 22nd. But the derision, certainly, was unwarranted. Every Congress since the 99th has had at least one proposal with the sole intent of repealing the 22nd. Other proposed amendments to otherwise affect the 22nd, such as replacing the two-term limit with a single six-year term, extend back to at least 1979's 96th Congress, but were not included in this list.

109th Congress - HJ Res 24 (2005)
108th Congress - HJ Res 25 (2003)
107th Congress - HJ Res 39 (2001)
106th Congress - HJ Res 24 (1999)
105th Congress - HJ Res 39 (1997)
104th Congress - HJ Res 71 (1995)
103rd Congress - HJ Res 107 (1993)
102nd Congress - HJ Res 61 (1991)
101st Congress - HJ Res 84 (1989)
100th Congress - HJ Res 156 (1987)
99th Congress - HJ Res 687 (1986)


So far, I'd guess it's a no-starter.
Title: Re: So, the 111th is underway.
Post by: Nightfall on January 16, 2009, 03:47:01 PM
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Rep. Jose Serrano (D-NY), an obvious Obama fan, is proposing (H.J.Res. 5) "an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the twenty-second article of amendment, thereby removing the limitation on the number of terms an individual may serve as President.
Wait... I seem to recall all kinds of paranoia from the left that Bush was trying to become President for life, etc.  I'm listening, but I don't seem to be hearing any cries of foul from over there anymore... what happened?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: So, the 111th is underway.
Post by: Manedwolf on January 16, 2009, 03:51:50 PM
Wait... I seem to recall all kinds of paranoia from the left that Bush was trying to become President for life, etc.  I'm listening, but I don't seem to be hearing any cries of foul from over there anymore... what happened?  :rolleyes:

It's their guy, so it's not the same thing.

Democrats spread a miasma of hypocrisy with every breath. And they never smell it.
Title: Re: So, the 111th is underway.
Post by: makattak on January 16, 2009, 03:53:41 PM
It's their guy, so it's not the same thing.

Democrats spread a miasma of hypocrisy with every breath. And they never smell it.

Kind of like how the papers now think the "OMG DOMESTIC WIRETAPPING" program is now a perfectly reasonable Foreign Communication Intercept program?