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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: doczinn on January 17, 2009, 06:40:21 PM
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Surprised no-one beat me to it. Check this one out:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g1nWr2gQuI1zQvW6fDS-IhpQhiCgD95N5KIO0
Obama urges service around inauguration
3 days ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — President-elect Barack Obama said Wednesday that he wants his inauguration to be about more than him; it should be about getting all Americans involved in community service.
Obama, in a four-minute speech posted on the Internet, urged his supporters to volunteer for projects scheduled around his Jan. 20 ceremony. Obama, Vice President-elect Joe Biden and their families plan to participate in service projects in the Washington area Jan. 19.
"I am asking you to join us in that same spirit of service to others — no matter where you live," he said.
The president-elect also said that if everyone rolled up their sleeves, the country could improve: "At this defining moment in our history, it serves as our opportunity to come together in common purpose, united in our resolve to renew the promise of this nation and meet the challenges of our time."
An e-mail announcing the video message included a request for donations. Obama raised a record-shattering $745 million for his presidential bid, relying in part on his massive e-mail list. Obama has already raised $35 million for next week's inaugural events.
Obama's aides have posted thousands of volunteer opportunities on a Web site, USAService.org. Last week, Obama supporter and former Republican Secretary of State Colin Powell urged Americans to visit the site to find projects near them.
Obama made a similar appeal Wednesday, just days before his inauguration events are scheduled to begin.
"Because I'm not just asking you to take part in one day of service. I am asking you to make a lasting commitment to make better the lives of your fellow Americans — a commitment that must endure beyond one day, or even one presidency," Obama said.
Obama also announced that supporters can sign up to receive text messages about volunteer opportunities, traffic problems and event schedules. Organizers expect millions to visit Washington.
"Unprecedented numbers of Americans are planning to join us in Washington," Obama said. "That will mean long lines, a tough time getting around, and most of all, a lot of walking on what could be a very cold winter day."
He urged voters to send a text message with the word "open" to 56333 to receive quick updates about logistics in Washington during his events.
The U.S. Secret Service plans to close down more than 3 square miles of downtown on Inauguration Day. All bridges crossing the Potomac River into Washington also will be closed to personal vehicles. Some officials estimate that as many as 4 million people could visit Washington for the events.
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At least this time it's voluntary. Me, I'll be working.
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Screw you, Obama...
I don't work unless I get paid...
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Regardless of the temperature and weather, I'm going shooting on Tuesday. Does that count as service? =D
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...it should be about getting all Americans involved in community service...
Been there, done that. Seven years serving on the board of my HOA, helping to run our little community, making sure the grass gets cut, the budget stays balanced & the reserve fund grows, the snow shoveled from the walks, the buildings painted, the property remains visually pleasing and attractive to new buys, and that the HOA otherwise leaves the members the heck alone. For my troubles I've been ridiculed, insulted, harrased and come w/in a hairbreath of being assaulted several times by one homeowner.
Mr. Obama can go pound sand.
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Regardless of the temperature and weather, I'm going shooting on Tuesday. Does that count as service? =D
To me it does. It means you're part of the intended citizen-militia that would be ready to take up arms to stop a threat within sovereign borders, "well-regulated" by having arms in working order and the skill to use them. The Brown Bess above the mantel or in the pantry then is the AR/AK/whatever in the safe now, something the founding fathers would just nod and smile at.
It makes liberals hyperventilate and cry, though. :lol:
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Because I'm not just asking you to take part in one day of service. I am asking you to make a lasting commitment to make better the lives of your fellow Americans — a commitment that must endure beyond one day, or even one presidency,
That's one of the reasons I'm an NRA-certified firearms instructor.
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Obama: "Go out and roll up your sleeves and work to make America better. She'll need it, because in Washington, we'll be working harder than ever before to gut her and rip out her soul."
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Screw you, Obama...
I don't work unless I get paid...
I'm willing to volunteer through my wife's church and other charitable organizations that don't rely on cultish leaders to tell them to step up and serve.
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If anyone wants to volunteer, MEPS will be open.
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It makes liberals hyperventilate and cry, though.
I'm happy to help the cause. =D
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Screw you, Obama...
I don't work unless I get paid...
And there ain't enough money to get me to work for the ObamaNation.
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Since school is closed on the 19th, I think I'll lay around all day and watch Band of Brothers. Maybe go to the range later if the roads aren't too bad.
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And there ain't enough money to get me to work for the ObamaNation.
Yep...I won't help sell our nation down the river...
Since school is closed on the 19th, I think I'll lay around all day and watch Band of Brothers. Maybe go to the range later if the roads aren't too bad.
Our school just adopted a compressed schedule last semester. We didn't get any holidays off (except Thanksgiving). This semester, the only holiday we'll get off will be MLK day...you know why...
And I'm going to enjoy my one day off...
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Apparently, Obama just said (yesterday or today) that "we can't afford any idle hands, everybody has to pitch in." ??? Look, Pres-elect - we don't work for you, see? We don't take orders from you, either, on what to do with our own time. That's not exactly how it works. =|
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Since school is closed on the 19th, I think I'll lay around all day and watch Band of Brothers. Maybe go to the range later if the roads aren't too bad.
I miss the days of school being closed meaning I don't have to go. Unfortunately, I have a key to the science buildings, which means I get to do work today!
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You can't help people who don't want to pitch-in themselves.
By definition, you can only give to those people.
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You can't help people who don't want to pitch-in themselves.
By definition, you can only give to those people.
I wrote a blistering/scathing response to the above and then deleted it.
Instead I offer this:
What you wrote reads like you're saying those of us that choose not to pitch in and participate in Obama' feel good national day of service BS are the ones not pitching in and thus by definition are the one on the dole.
I certainly hope that's not what you meant. Perhaps you can explain what you meant a bit more clearly.
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I wrote a blistering/scathing response to the above because it reads like you're saying those of us that choose not to participate in Obama' feel good national day of service BS are the ones not pitching in and thus by definition are the one on the dole.
I certainly hope that's not what you meant. Perhaps you can explain what you meant a bit more clearly.
FTA does not mean what you think he means, Werewolf.
I think he means that the "unfortunate" people Obama and his ilk are forever harping about and insisting that we give to them are the ones who aren't doing anything to improve themselves and will never improve.
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That's how I read FTA's response, too, Avenger.
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Apparently, Obama just said (yesterday or today) that "we can't afford any idle hands, everybody has to pitch in." ??? Look, Pres-elect - we don't work for you, see? We don't take orders from you, either, on what to do with our own time. That's not exactly how it works. =|
Yet.
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Yeah... I don't do enough to help those less fortunate than I. I really SHOULD try to give more than I do...
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I agree with that sentiment. If anyone should roll up their sleeves and get to work it is the able bodied people who should work, but get unearned govt welfare instead.
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Want to enlist yourself for worthwhile community service?
Volunteer to teach people to shoot rifles.
www.appleseedinfo.org
I spent last weekend with ten other volunteers doing precisely that.
Rewarding, fulfilling? Yes.
Men, women, kids, whole families learning about their heritage and how to handle a rifle capably.
Leaving the country and community better than we found it.
That's a great way to volunteer. If you people know how to handle a rifle, join in.
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Apparently, Obama just said (yesterday or today) that "we can't afford any idle hands, everybody has to pitch in." ??? Look, Pres-elect - we don't work for you, see? We don't take orders from you, either, on what to do with our own time. That's not exactly how it works. =|
How in the name of all that is Holy did you arrive at the conclusion that Obama is ORDERING you to work for him?
And how, you bunch of clownfishes, is this much different than Bush One's Thousand Points of Light speeches that urged community service?
All he's doing is asking you to take an interest in your community and your county.
How the hell are you 'tards getting something nefariously evil out of that?
Are you all rushing out to QUIT the community service that you already do just because a Democrat DARED to challenge you (collective) to do something?
Even Reagan and Bush Two called for people to get involved in their communities during their presidencies. But that's OK, they were Republicans, so that has none of the inherent evil that a Democrat calling for the exact same thing does, right?
You know, for a bunch of supposedly smart people, you all tend to get your shorts sucked up your bungs over the stupidest things.
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"I'm willing to volunteer through my wife's church and other charitable organizations that don't rely on cultish leaders to tell them to step up and serve."
Oh, you mean your wife's minister?
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"I'm willing to volunteer through my wife's church and other charitable organizations that don't rely on cultish leaders to tell them to step up and serve."
Oh, you mean your wife's minister?
Nope. Its a free will baptist church. As far as religions go, they just try hard to humbly serve others. No big cultish air about her pastor.
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It's called relative association.
What seems perfectly normal to you, as in the minister benignly leading his flock, is the epitome of cult-like evil to someone else.
"As far as religions go, they just try hard to humbly serve others."
Gee, that sounds very VERY much like what Obama called for Americans to do in his National Day of Service! OH MY GOD, YOUR WIFE IS A CLOSET OBAMA SUPPORTER!
See how it works?
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It's called relative association.
What seems perfectly normal to you, as in the minister benignly leading his flock, is the epitome of cult-like evil to someone else.
"As far as religions go, they just try hard to humbly serve others."
Gee, that sounds very VERY much like what Obama called for Americans to do in his National Day of Service! OH MY GOD, YOUR WIFE IS A CLOSET OBAMA SUPPORTER!
See how it works?
Sounds like a SnSdnt post....
=D
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That's the best you can do?
Pathetic.
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Damn Mike: who dropped the quarter in YOUR slot today?
I'll admit, I probably should have read more. But I've been hearing stuff about "compulsory volunteer service", and it just grates. Especially given what I already do...
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That's the rub. It's not that he asked people to serve, it's that he's on record as desiring to make it mandatory. In that context, even if he's asking, it grates.
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He proposed that for high school and college students as a requirement for graduation.
Many high schools, and some colleges, already have that in place.
I have heard NO indication that he has proposed mandatory volunteer service for every American, regardless of age.
I know we have a few college students here, but most of us are long past our college years.
And finally, I've not been able to find any definitive link between his proposals for students to "volunteer" and his call for a day of National Service.
So, the whining about it is, as I noted, seriously out of place.
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"who dropped the quarter in YOUR slot today"
It's free pay Wednesday.
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It's free pay Wednesday.
I'll take two please.
Ben
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How in the name of all that is Holy did you arrive at the conclusion that Obama is ORDERING you to work for him?
I didn't. But he does seem to be telling me that I'm not allowed to be idle. As if he has a right to tell me to work - for free.
I don't recall what the Bushes said, but there is a difference between encouraging public service and the implication that "volunteer" work is mandatory.
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When I heard him talk about it I arrived at no conclusion that I was not allowed to be idle.
I suspect there's more than a little disassociation going on here -- the willingness or predetermination to take everything the man says as a deeply personal affront.
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Ummm... would that be kinda like how you read most posters here? :P
You kinda opened yourself there bro...
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I'm not the one thumping my chest and issuing ringing pronouncements about how YOU'RE NOT MY BOSS! in response to what has become a fairly ordinary, routine request by incoming and sitting Presidents for citizens to take an interest and active role in the affairs of their community.
Given the teeth gnashing, hair pulling, wailing, and over-the-edge hysterical predictions of "the end of the world as we know it" under Obama that have been posited here, combined with a curious propensity for so many seemingly adult posters to resort to first grade name calling when they refer to politicians, primarily the President, has me wondering if, perhaps, it's not time to shut Politics Place down permanently and completely ban political discussion of any kind here.
So, everyone had better think about that.
Get your heads out of your asses, get your minds out of hysterical tantrum "Obama is the most evil man of all time and everything he proposes is really, REALLY evil," and think about whether or not you want to A) keep Politics Place as an open forum here and B) remain a member of Armed Polite Society.
Right now there are a couple of people who are on really thin ice right along with Politics Place.
I am that sick of this *expletive deleted*it.
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Ummm... I was teasing. You don't have to take it personally... ;)
My opinion (worth exactly what you paid for it): I wouldn't jump on things just yet. You've issued a warning: give everyone a couple days to get it out of their system. Then wield the ban hammer like a whiffle bat...
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Like most of you, I was working away... no day off for me, and I was not inclined to take time to engage in some "service project". I have served my fellow man through voluntarism, served my kids & school through supporting their activities, the community through donations and my country through service, courtesy of which I was retired early due to injuries.
I'll continue to support my community, country and fellow man, in my style and time, not at the behest of a political figure.
Jeff B.
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Because doing voluntary community work is just one step away from communism :rolleyes: