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Title: Pepsi's campaign of insane and self-destructive rebranding continues...
Post by: Manedwolf on January 19, 2009, 03:29:53 PM
Remember the new logo? The changing of Tropicana from the wonderfully distinctive branding to something that looks like the store generic, complete with a stock photo of a glass of juice and tiny reverse-bookshelf font, no logo?

Well, here's their next branding self-flagellation.

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Seriously. What the hell?
Title: Re: Pepsi's campaign of insane and self-destructive rebranding continues...
Post by: Viking on January 19, 2009, 03:37:51 PM
I don't buy it that often (heck, I'm not even sure any stores near me has it, might be something similar I'm buying), so I've got to ask - what did it look like before? ???
Title: Re: Pepsi's campaign of insane and self-destructive rebranding continues...
Post by: Boomhauer on January 19, 2009, 03:39:06 PM
This:

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Title: Re: Pepsi's campaign of insane and self-destructive rebranding continues...
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on January 19, 2009, 03:46:18 PM
They kept the lightning bolt and orange cap, at least.

Probably just saving money by silkscreening the bottle rather than putting a paper label on it.

When I was in sports I always hated the labels anyways.  Condensation would make it peel off but there was never a trash can near by to throw the paper in.
Title: Re: Pepsi's campaign of insane and self-destructive rebranding continues...
Post by: SteveS on January 19, 2009, 03:53:14 PM
Looks better than the old one.  I prefer Powerade, anyway.
Title: Re: Pepsi's campaign of insane and self-destructive rebranding continues...
Post by: Nightfall on January 19, 2009, 04:30:19 PM
When we grocery shop, my wife and I can pick out the Pepsi products easily now by their boring, generic new logos.  The new Pepsi boxes suck.  The new Tropicana boxes suck.  Now Gatorade sucks.  This is one epic fail by Pepsi.
Title: Re: Pepsi's campaign of insane and self-destructive rebranding continues...
Post by: crawdaddyjim on January 19, 2009, 07:36:39 PM
You buy stuff based on the packaging? Seriously?


Jim
Title: Re: Pepsi's campaign of insane and self-destructive rebranding continues...
Post by: Firethorn on January 19, 2009, 07:43:20 PM
You buy stuff based on the packaging? Seriously?

At least with the tropicana stuff, the old label was much easier to spot.

The tropicana one just showed up in my store, I'm going to send a complaint in about it.
Title: Re: Pepsi's campaign of insane and self-destructive rebranding continues...
Post by: El Tejon on January 19, 2009, 07:58:13 PM
Bleh, could never drink the stuff anywho.  Gatorade always made me sick.

I prefer water.  That stuff could catch on. =D
Title: Re: Pepsi's campaign of insane and self-destructive rebranding continues...
Post by: BridgeRunner on January 19, 2009, 10:01:36 PM
I dunno, I kind of like it. 

And the new plastic Tropicana pitchers work better.  Better balanced, easier to pour.  Feels lighter. 

The only Gatorade I get though is the six packs of small bottles--I think they are eight ounces?  I get the "ice" flavors too.  I don't think those have had the orange/green label for a while now.  Those have been, iirc, more minimalist and monochrome for a while now.  I could be wrong though, haven't bought any of the stuff since I had to temporarily quit running something like two months ago.
Title: Re: Pepsi's campaign of insane and self-destructive rebranding continues...
Post by: taurusowner on January 19, 2009, 10:16:44 PM
I only drink Powerade Zero, so it doesn't really matter to me at all.
Title: Re: Pepsi's campaign of insane and self-destructive rebranding continues...
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 20, 2009, 01:04:15 AM
Bleh, could never drink the stuff anywho.  Gatorade always made me sick.

I prefer water.  That stuff could catch on. =D


Yes.  Drinking Kool-Aid, or Gatorade, whatever they want to call it, to quench a serious thirst is Big Fail. 
Title: Re: Pepsi's campaign of insane and self-destructive rebranding continues...
Post by: Bogie on January 20, 2009, 02:08:31 AM
You should drink Brawndo. It's got electrolytes.
 
Title: Re: Pepsi's campaign of insane and self-destructive rebranding continues...
Post by: Nightfall on January 20, 2009, 03:06:25 AM
You buy stuff based on the packaging? Seriously?
Hah, no. But grocery shopping is less visually interesting now.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Pepsi's campaign of insane and self-destructive rebranding continues...
Post by: dogmush on January 20, 2009, 03:25:05 AM
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You should drink Brawndo. It's got electrolytes.

It is what plants crave, after all.
Title: Re: Pepsi's campaign of insane and self-destructive rebranding continues...
Post by: Manedwolf on January 20, 2009, 10:29:59 AM
You should drink Brawndo. It's got electrolytes.

Did you know that's real, now?

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http://www.brawndo.com/ (http://www.brawndo.com/)
Title: Re: Pepsi's campaign of insane and self-destructive rebranding continues...
Post by: Balog on January 20, 2009, 11:09:57 AM
You should drink Brawndo. It's got electrolytes.
 


By far the best part of that movie.
Title: Re: Pepsi's campaign of insane and self-destructive rebranding continues...
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on January 20, 2009, 11:13:51 AM
so thats what that commercial was about... i couldn't figure it out.  =|

one might want to tell pepsi that if they are going to advertise something they might want to say what their advertising.
Title: Re: Pepsi's campaign of insane and self-destructive rebranding continues...
Post by: RaspberrySurprise on January 20, 2009, 03:03:47 PM
Yes.  Drinking Kool-Aid, or Gatorade, whatever they want to call it, to quench a serious thirst is Big Fail. 

Er what? I know if I had been drinking only water while working down in Florida I'd be dead by now. Water does lack some things that have to be replenished after hard work, namely salt.

Or are you referring to people with zero activity drinking it when thirsty, thereby being rather counter-productive?
Title: Re: Pepsi's campaign of insane and self-destructive rebranding continues...
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on January 20, 2009, 03:18:51 PM
You should drink Brawndo. It's got electrolytes.
 


Oh, my God.  I missed a meme.  Pleez 'Splain Sors.  kthxbai.
Title: Re: Pepsi's campaign of insane and self-destructive rebranding continues...
Post by: Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas on January 20, 2009, 04:13:21 PM
Oh, my God.  I missed a meme.  Pleez 'Splain Sors.  kthxbai.
Movie by name of 'Idiocracy' IIRC.
Title: Re: Pepsi's campaign of insane and self-destructive rebranding continues...
Post by: Viking on January 20, 2009, 04:35:44 PM
Movie by name of 'Idiocracy' IIRC.
Yep. People had quit drinking water completely, and worse, they used Brawndo to water their crops...
Title: Re: Pepsi's campaign of insane and self-destructive rebranding continues...
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 20, 2009, 05:04:35 PM
Er what? I know if I had been drinking only water while working down in Florida I'd be dead by now. Water does lack some things that have to be replenished after hard work, namely salt.

Or are you referring to people with zero activity drinking it when thirsty, thereby being rather counter-productive?


I know, I know.  I just can't get over the fact it seems like drinking Kool-Aid.  Any type of sweet drink leaves an after-taste for me, so I just don't drink any sort of soda or gatorade, if I am outside on a hot day.  Or if I do, I need some water to chase it with, but it still gets me. 

Also, I became very attached to water, during a desert survival course, and then again during my military service (Georgia, TX, Louisiana, etc.)
Title: Re: Pepsi's campaign of insane and self-destructive rebranding continues...
Post by: seeker_two on January 20, 2009, 06:26:39 PM

I prefer water.  That stuff could catch on. =D

Interesting.....who markets that?.....
Title: Re: Pepsi's campaign of insane and self-destructive rebranding continues...
Post by: Regolith on January 20, 2009, 09:02:04 PM
Interesting.....who markets that?.....

Pepsi. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquafina)  =D

Title: Re: Pepsi's campaign of insane and self-destructive rebranding continues...
Post by: Hawkmoon on April 28, 2009, 01:15:38 AM
Remember the new logo? The changing of Tropicana from the wonderfully distinctive branding to something that looks like the store generic, complete with a stock photo of a glass of juice and tiny reverse-bookshelf font, no logo?

...

Seriously. What the hell?

I think I found out what the WTH was all about.

Went grocery shopping last week. I drink orange juice, but I'm not very brand loyal. The supermarket chain I shop always has one of the three major brands of OJ on sale. I'm not independently (or any other kind of) wealthy, so I buy the brand that's on sale. Last week it was Tropicana. The carton looked the same ... or at least almost the same, except it seemed a bit taller and skinnier than I remembered. Then I got it home, and I had trouble getting it into the fridge. It really IS taller. And skinnier.

And it doesn't hold 64 ounces. It's now 59 ounces.

And I am just enough of a conspiracy theorist to believe that they didn't change the packaging a few months ago, and then change it again, just by accident. I think if they had kept the old design but changed the capacity, people would have noticed instantly. This way, we're still adjusting to the "bleecchh" new design, so a little thing like changing the proportions of the box doesn't raise suspicions.

Shame on me for having fallen into their trap.
Title: Re: Pepsi's campaign of insane and self-destructive rebranding continues...
Post by: jackdanson on April 28, 2009, 02:18:42 AM
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Yes.  Drinking Kool-Aid, or Gatorade, whatever they want to call it, to quench a serious thirst is Big Fail.


Sort of.. the key is to "cut" it.  Mix 1/3 to 1/2 gatorade with 2/3 to 1/2 ice water and you have a perfect combo for something long range.  When I used to bike for 5 or 6 hours at a time this worked great, especially in the heat... you don't want to eat, but at least your are getting some calories/electrolytes from the gatorade.
Title: Re: Pepsi's campaign of insane and self-destructive rebranding continues...
Post by: RevDisk on April 28, 2009, 10:08:01 AM
Sort of.. the key is to "cut" it.  Mix 1/3 to 1/2 gatorade with 2/3 to 1/2 ice water and you have a perfect combo for something long range.  When I used to bike for 5 or 6 hours at a time this worked great, especially in the heat... you don't want to eat, but at least your are getting some calories/electrolytes from the gatorade.

I use the powder stuff.   Same thing, I 'water down the mix' quite a bit over what you're supposed to put in.   
Title: Re: Pepsi's campaign of insane and self-destructive rebranding continues...
Post by: Balog on April 28, 2009, 11:00:43 AM
We were doing a range in summer one day. Full flak and kevlar, lotta running around. One of the line company ssgt's drank a couple gallons of water without eating, and flushed so much salt etc out of his body they had to take him to the hospital.
Title: Re: Pepsi's campaign of insane and self-destructive rebranding continues...
Post by: BryanP on April 28, 2009, 11:02:34 AM
I worked for Pepsi for 15 years.  Great place to work, and they have had some great marketing success, but they do go through some oddball stuff in the process.

Remember Pepsi Blue?  When that was rolled out we employees got to try it out early.  When one of the higher ups asked me what I thought of it I said "Do you want my Good Employee opinion or do you want to know what I really think?"

"Tell me what you really think?"

"By the end of the year we'll have many pallets of this stuff going out-of-date in the warehouse."

He didn't like that answer.  But he had to eat it by the end of the year.   =D
Title: Re: Pepsi's campaign of insane and self-destructive rebranding continues...
Post by: lee n. field on April 28, 2009, 12:06:24 PM
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It's new, it's "Gaaak!"
Title: Re: Pepsi's campaign of insane and self-destructive rebranding continues...
Post by: lee n. field on April 28, 2009, 12:09:48 PM
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And it doesn't hold 64 ounces. It's now 59 ounces.

Ice cream, in the fancy new roundish boxes.  Smaller.

Canned tuna, smaller cans.

Pay attention.
Title: Re: Pepsi's campaign of insane and self-destructive rebranding continues...
Post by: Gowen on April 28, 2009, 03:58:56 PM
I work in a grocery store, everything is getting smaller for more money.  At the very least, they make a much smaller product, charge less, but the cost per ounce is higher.  Thus a win for them.
Title: Re: Pepsi's campaign of insane and self-destructive rebranding continues...
Post by: Jocassee on April 28, 2009, 06:31:03 PM
I think I found out what the WTH was all about.

Went grocery shopping last week. I drink orange juice, but I'm not very brand loyal. The supermarket chain I shop always has one of the three major brands of OJ on sale. I'm not independently (or any other kind of) wealthy, so I buy the brand that's on sale. Last week it was Tropicana. The carton looked the same ... or at least almost the same, except it seemed a bit taller and skinnier than I remembered. Then I got it home, and I had trouble getting it into the fridge. It really IS taller. And skinnier.

And it doesn't hold 64 ounces. It's now 59 ounces.

And I am just enough of a conspiracy theorist to believe that they didn't change the packaging a few months ago, and then change it again, just by accident. I think if they had kept the old design but changed the capacity, people would have noticed instantly. This way, we're still adjusting to the "bleecchh" new design, so a little thing like changing the proportions of the box doesn't raise suspicions.

Shame on me for having fallen into their trap.

Newsweek had an interview/article on a guy named Arnell who was the fake genius behind all the rebranding. According to that article Pepsi reverted the Tropicana box because it was hated so. So they do listen to us sometimes. The smaller box is dishonest to be sure, but not part of a nefarious plot.
Title: Re: Pepsi's campaign of insane and self-destructive rebranding continues...
Post by: seeker_two on April 28, 2009, 07:46:19 PM
The smaller box is dishonest to be sure, but not part of a nefarious plot.

You know.....the most successful nefarious plots tend to be the ones that no one thinks are nefarious plots.... ;)