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Title: Fear-mongering and the Age of Obama
Post by: Jocassee on February 06, 2009, 08:08:35 AM
Tell me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the same tactic democrats accuse W of using to advance WOT policy? Correct me again, but won't this bail-out bill and the ones preceding it outpace our spending on the WOT?

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D965I5CG4&show_article=1

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"This recession might linger for years. Our economy will lose 5 million more jobs. Unemployment will approach double digits. Our nation will sink deeper into a crisis that, at some point, we may not be able to reverse," Obama wrote in the newspaper piece.

And in other news:

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The most sweeping proposal, advanced by Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., would have eliminated all the spending and replaced it with a series of tax cuts. It was defeated 61-36.

I'm proud to have Jim DeMint as my Senator He and the Governor, Mark Sanford, have been hard-line capitalist and anti-bailout the whole way, even though SC stands to get a large chunk of cash out of this fiasco. I wish DeMint and the "Gang of 36" well as they fight Communism in the Senate.
Title: Re: Fear-mongering and the Age of Obama
Post by: MicroBalrog on February 06, 2009, 08:14:19 AM
Funny how they didn't fight for tax cuts that hard for all the previous eight years.
Title: Re: Fear-mongering and the Age of Obama
Post by: Jocassee on February 06, 2009, 08:38:26 AM
Funny how they didn't fight for tax cuts that hard for all the previous eight years.

I think it's safe to say there is a core of Senators that has consistently fought against big government no matter who is in office. DeMint is one of them. My other Senator, the McCain suck-up Lindsey Grahamnesty, is not. I voted against him in November.
Title: Re: Fear-mongering and the Age of Obama
Post by: wquay on February 06, 2009, 10:32:04 AM
Yep. I was hoping to see the end of the politics of fear with Bush & Co leaving, but I guess not.
Title: Re: Fear-mongering and the Age of Obama
Post by: Boomhauer on February 06, 2009, 10:32:46 AM
I think it's safe to say there is a core of Senators that has consistently fought against big government no matter who is in office. DeMint is one of them. My other Senator, the McCain suck-up Lindsey Grahamnesty, is not. I voted against him in November.

I see you are a South Carolinian as well. Graham can burn in hell.

Title: Re: Fear-mongering and the Age of Obama
Post by: longeyes on February 06, 2009, 11:45:37 AM
You will never see the end of the politics of fear.  From the beginning it's been about who fears whom.  As was said in V is for Vendetta (an otherwise rather lame movie), "A government should fear its people."
Title: Re: Fear-mongering and the Age of Obama
Post by: Sergeant Bob on February 06, 2009, 01:23:39 PM
I saw Obama on Fox news this morning saying something like "We need to get away from the politics of the last 8 years and the thinking that tax cuts will stimulate the economy". ;/

I'm just trying to figure out how taking a trillion dollars out of the economy, throwing it into that black hole called "Washington D.C." from which not even light can escape, is going to stimulate anything other than a bunch of politicians' egos.
Title: Re: Fear-mongering and the Age of Obama
Post by: longeyes on February 07, 2009, 01:52:32 AM
What Obama is really afraid of is the power of the individual.  He has one goal: to concentrate power in the hands of a leftist government. 
Title: Re: Fear-mongering and the Age of Obama
Post by: Logos on February 08, 2009, 08:41:43 PM
Good.

This country has drifted so far to the right that we badly need a little left to get us back to the center.
Title: Re: Fear-mongering and the Age of Obama
Post by: digitalandanalog on February 08, 2009, 09:01:28 PM
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This country has drifted so far to the right that we badly need a little left to get us back to the center.

That your idea of a joke, right?
Title: Re: Fear-mongering and the Age of Obama
Post by: MicroBalrog on February 08, 2009, 09:18:49 PM
That your idea of a joke, right?

No, he's not. He's been expressing various leftist views on several threads on this forum.
Title: Re: Fear-mongering and the Age of Obama
Post by: Logos on February 08, 2009, 09:23:36 PM
So, I'm a leftist and you're a rightist.

Big deal, it's a free country.........at least since Bush is gone.
Title: Re: Fear-mongering and the Age of Obama
Post by: Regolith on February 08, 2009, 09:27:38 PM
So, I'm a leftist and you're a rightist.

Big deal, it's a free country.........at least since Bush is gone.

Yeah, because if you had spouted leftist ideals during the Bush admin, you'd have been marched off to Guantanamo Bay or something.... :rolleyes:

Title: Re: Fear-mongering and the Age of Obama
Post by: Logos on February 08, 2009, 09:35:11 PM
Maybe......Bush is the one that started listening to our phone calls.
Title: Re: Fear-mongering and the Age of Obama
Post by: Regolith on February 08, 2009, 09:41:55 PM
Maybe......Bush is the one that started listening to our phone calls.

Oh...you mean like what is permitted by the FISA bill, which Obama voted for?

Got a clue for you, that's still happening, and it's partially thanks to Obama. 


Also, Bush isn't the one who started the practice, he just dramatically widened it's scope.  You've got Clinton to thank for that.
Title: Re: Fear-mongering and the Age of Obama
Post by: Logos on February 08, 2009, 09:49:08 PM
So.....Hillary was a mistake.

I buy that.
Title: Re: Fear-mongering and the Age of Obama
Post by: Regolith on February 08, 2009, 09:51:03 PM
So.....Hillary was a mistake.

I buy that.

I meant Bill, not Hillary, though yes, I'd consider appointing her to Sec. of State a mistake (along with the rest of the Obama administration).
Title: Re: Fear-mongering and the Age of Obama
Post by: Logos on February 08, 2009, 09:58:28 PM
Hillary is a warmonger and much too far right and much too Zionist to be SecState.

She's there because her and Bill have their eyes on bumping Obama out in 2012.

Obama is a good guy.....you'll realize that if Her Highness Hillary gets in.
Title: Re: Fear-mongering and the Age of Obama
Post by: Boomhauer on February 08, 2009, 10:07:06 PM
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Obama is a good guy

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Title: Re: Fear-mongering and the Age of Obama
Post by: Manedwolf on February 08, 2009, 10:37:00 PM
Hillary is a warmonger and much too far right and much too Zionist to be SecState.

She's there because her and Bill have their eyes on bumping Obama out in 2012.

Obama is a good guy.....you'll realize that if Her Highness Hillary gets in.

Ah-ha. We have us an anti-semite here.

Why are leftists so hateful?
Title: Re: Fear-mongering and the Age of Obama
Post by: Boomhauer on February 08, 2009, 10:39:39 PM
Wait a minute, I've been dying to ask this question...

Logos, was 9/11 a coverup?

Title: Re: Fear-mongering and the Age of Obama
Post by: MicroBalrog on February 08, 2009, 10:42:02 PM
Ah-ha. We have us an anti-semite here.



Opposing Zionism doesn't make you an anti-semite. Sorry.
Title: Re: Fear-mongering and the Age of Obama
Post by: Ben on February 08, 2009, 10:43:10 PM
Logos -- I see you are a new member. Welcome.  I recommend reading the forum rules to see how we run our forum, and also recommend perusing and participating in some of our many non-political topics to see what we're about.
Title: Re: Fear-mongering and the Age of Obama
Post by: Logos on February 08, 2009, 10:44:52 PM
Ah-ha. We have us an anti-semite here.

Why are leftists so hateful?

Why are Rightists so hateful?

I guess you're going to tag all the Jews who are against Zionism as Anti-Semites?

 :O
Title: Re: Fear-mongering and the Age of Obama
Post by: Manedwolf on February 08, 2009, 10:51:32 PM
Opposing Zionism doesn't make you an anti-semite. Sorry.

And every single time I've seen someone rail about "zionists" here, they ARE an anti-semite. Just wait'll you meet some. Their sentiments get real ugly, real fast.
Title: Re: Fear-mongering and the Age of Obama
Post by: MicroBalrog on February 08, 2009, 10:55:10 PM
And every single time I've seen someone rail about "zionists" here, they ARE an anti-semite. Just wait'll you meet some. Their sentiments get real ugly, real fast.

I believe that Zionism is a completely illogical, fail-filled ideology.

Especially Classical Zionism as expounded by Ben-Gurion and his blood-stained comrades. But other forms of it, too.

I'm not an anti-semite.
Title: Re: Fear-mongering and the Age of Obama
Post by: Manedwolf on February 08, 2009, 10:56:40 PM
I believe that Zionism is a completely illogical, fail-filled ideology.

Especially Classical Zionism as expounded by Ben-Gurion and his blood-stained comrades. But other forms of it, too.

I'm not an anti-semite.

Again, you're missing the point. EVERY time I've heard someone start railing on Zionism in the US, it's a code word to very quickly get into ugly sentiments, from "money-grubbing Jews" to far, far more violent sentiments.

Trust me.
Title: Re: Fear-mongering and the Age of Obama
Post by: MicroBalrog on February 08, 2009, 11:00:54 PM
Again, you're missing the point. EVERY time I've heard someone start railing on Zionism in the US, it's a code word to very quickly get into ugly sentiments, from "money-grubbing Jews" to far, far more violent sentiments.



And nine out of ten times I hear someone cry anti-semitism it's either fearmongering nonsense or neoconservatives trying to shout down their opponents. Or money-grubbing charities trying to scare elderly Jews into donating to them by exaggerating the threat of said anti-semitism.
Title: Re: Fear-mongering and the Age of Obama
Post by: Logos on February 08, 2009, 11:05:01 PM
Again, you're missing the point. EVERY time I've heard someone start railing on Zionism in the US, it's a code word to very quickly get into ugly sentiments, from "money-grubbing Jews" to far, far more violent sentiments.

Trust me.

Well, you won't hear that from me.
Title: Re: Fear-mongering and the Age of Obama
Post by: Logos on February 08, 2009, 11:07:51 PM
Try this:

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/ (http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/)

That may help you.