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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: AZRedhawk44 on March 27, 2009, 03:54:05 PM
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Which makes for better reading in the Jury Selection Room? :angel:
Got hit with Jury Duty. So, what should be my light reading that I tote along with me?
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Are you trying to get booted from the jury?
I would pick Atlas Shrugged if you're really just looking to read a great book. One of the other two if you want the lawyers to show you the door.
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EFD gets my vote. It's lighter fare; that is, the other two books I needed to concentrate more in order to follow and comprehend and I can't do that unless I am alone in a quiet place.
Plus, the title is pretty clear to a casual observer if that is the effect you're looking for... :angel: :laugh:
HTH,
Sawdust
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Depends:
Good book that will challenge, is intellectual and which can be terribly boring at times: Atlas Shrugged
Good book, fun to read, guns, action, etc: UC
OK book and you like conspiracy theories: EFAD
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I've only read UC and Atlas, so I'd go with one of those two, but whichever you choose, bookmark it with a pamphlet on Jury Nullification. =D
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If you're a masochist, Atlas Shrugged is perfect.
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Which makes for better reading in the Jury Selection Room? :angel:
Got hit with Jury Duty. So, what should be my light reading that I tote along with me?
I'd recommend Atlas Shrugged. Or UC if you remove the cover. Both are excellent books.
EFAD and its sequel.... I'm sorry, they're ok "light reading" if you agree with the author's political views and love conspiracy type novels, but classics they will never be.
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Figure I'll try out Arizona's recent law requiring facilities that prohibit CCW to provide firearms storage lockers, too. Maricopa County Superior Court falls under that. I've got a few weeks to verify.
So: Open carry .44mag, nice Colt Commander to make the security guard drool, plasticwundernine XD9 as a babystompingbullethose, or 642 in the front pocket of my dockers as a casual "even nice looking guys carry" statement?
Also: Anyone know of some pro-freedom/pro-gun oriented polo shirts or button-down shirts I could wear? Heritage Foundation/Cato/NRA have any nice businesswear for casual dress?
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UC if you remove the cover.
That's not the point. The cover is part of UC.
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If you bring your copy of Unintended Consequences to the jury selection process and show it to the attorneys present, you might get a break... =D
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PM me your address - I'll mail you a GUNS SAVE LIVES button (approx 3" across). Blaze orange background with black block upper case letters, or Kelly-ish green background.
For $6 (half price) I'll include a VCDL ballcap (blue with VCDL logo). and for $28 (member price) I'll get you a black or ash gray (whichever I can get my hands on) polo shirt with the VCDL logo on the left breast. (If I can find one with a pocket, I'll send that, otherwise you get just the embroidered logo.) see http://www.vcdl.org/static/store.html for photos of shirts.
Anybody else that wants stuff, same price except I'm gonna have to collect $1 for a button (I have a limited stock on hand for recruiting).
I'll cover postage out of pocket - it's worth it to get the message out.
stay safe.
skidmark
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Figure I'll try out Arizona's recent law requiring facilities that prohibit CCW to provide firearms storage lockers, too. Maricopa County Superior Court falls under that. I've got a few weeks to verify.
So: Open carry .44mag, nice Colt Commander to make the security guard drool, plasticwundernine XD9 as a babystompingbullethose, or 642 in the front pocket of my dockers as a casual "even nice looking guys carry" statement?
Also: Anyone know of some pro-freedom/pro-gun oriented polo shirts or button-down shirts I could wear? Heritage Foundation/Cato/NRA have any nice businesswear for casual dress?
Something openly carried, along with something in your pocket plus another on your ankle "just in case".
Had a nice young lady attend the last few Lobby Days at the Va General Assembly thus attired. (GA rules permit carry in the GA building & grounds of Capitol Square if you have a Concealed Handgun Permit. Getting in you show your CHP & breeze through the metal detectors beeping merrily, then see the nice Capitol Policeman who verifies you indeed have a current CHP. Lots of folks like to get asked what & where is it.) She was ever-afterwards known as 3-gun Kim.
stay safe.
skidmark.
Oh! My vote is for UC - get to the part where Henry disposes of stuff, turn to the person sitting next to ypu, show them the passage, and ask "Can you really do that?" :angel:
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If it's anything like what I went through, you can read whatever you want in the jury pool room. Once you get called for Vior Dire any and all reading material must be left behind.
Bring whatever you want to read, the only people who will see it are your fellows jurors.
As far as what to wear, here are some suggestions from previous threads:
A tastefully apointed FIJA (http://fija.org) t-shirt
Barbara Adams (http://www.drunkandretired.com/adams/)
a hangman noose tie
the Grim Reaper
Maybe Mike can let you borrow his home-made lethal injection machine.......
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How about you go, get on the jury, and do your best to simply nullify all verdicts? It's more fun. =D
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Anyone know of some pro-freedom/pro-gun oriented polo shirts or button-down shirts I could wear? Heritage Foundation/Cato/NRA have any nice businesswear for casual dress?
Just no Starfleet uniform.
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How about you go, get on the jury, and do your best to simply nullify all verdicts? It's more fun. =D
This^^
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I'm actually re-reading AS right now. Sorry to say but so far the word drivel comes to mind. :O
:laugh:
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Oops, my bad, I'm rereading "The Fountainhead", however, the word drivel still comes to mind. :laugh:
Explain to me why a plumber has a torch on the job that is capable of cutting steel beams. Apparently Ayn doesn't know much about torches. ;/
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A torch capable to cutting steel beams? When we did a rehab a while back, the plumber had an oxy-acetylene rig in his truck, along with propane and mapp gas stuff... If you need a hole for something, you need the hole. And sometimes it's something big.
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Which makes for better reading in the Jury Selection Room? :angel:
Got hit with Jury Duty. So, what should be my light reading that I tote along with me?
Atlas Shrugged, while wearing a Wookie suit.
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I'm actually re-reading AS right now. Sorry to say but so far the word drivel comes to mind. :O
:laugh:
You just don't understand. He's just plain awesome, and no one understands it!
!!!!!
Isn't that like, the bestest mostest awesome thing in the world!?!
Ok, I'll stop, I'm giving myself a headache. Fountainhead was drivel about a guy who was allegedly awesome and no one got it, FOR AN ENTIRE BOOK. AS is better, especially in the concepts department. Ah... how to put it kindly. Ayn was a bit much into the ubermenschen philosophy, at which I roll my eyes a bit. And long winded. But the concepts and most of the philosophy were really good. I just try to think of Fountain was a false start. Practice swing, you know? It doesn't really count.
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A whole bunch of people in the book get Roarke, actually.
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Ayn's books are the kinda thing that either resonate with you, or do nothing for you. I don't think she ever expected her writing to speak to everyone.
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Fountainhead was drivel about a guy who was allegedly awesome and no one got it, FOR AN ENTIRE BOOK.
695 PAGES of an entire book! :laugh:
AS is even longer isn't it? I used to have a copy but it seems to have disappeared. I think I lost a box of books in a move many years ago. There's a few other titles I can't find anymore. One totally rare and unfindable. =(
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All I know for sure is if Roark was a character in a Hardy novel he'd end up dead by the end. :lol:
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Also: Anyone know of some pro-freedom/pro-gun oriented polo shirts or button-down shirts I could wear? Heritage Foundation/Cato/NRA have any nice businesswear for casual dress?
Just no Starfleet uniform.
Atlas Shrugged, while wearing a Wookie suit.
Why wear anything? Just hold the book in a strategic position.... =D
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Why wear anything? Just hold the book in a strategic position....
I believe we have a winnah! :laugh:
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I was told that The Fountainhead was supposed to be a love story before I read it. I didn't see it. It was decent, but I completely agree that Atlas Shrugged was way better. She can be a bit long winded, but I find her philosophies to be fascinating. I bought Anthem, but haven't read it yet.
I haven't read the other two books.
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ARS 13-3102.01. Sounds like I'm covered.
Then, also from Maricopa County Superior Court web page:
http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/CourtSecurity/GeneralInformation/policy.asp
No Weapons Policy
No persons are permitted within a Superior Court building with any type of weapon.
--Members of the public must go through security screening at court entrances. All persons carrying weapons (as defined by the Court Security Department) will be prohibited from entering the court complex until they have removed the weapon from the building or have it secured by security personnel.
--Armed members of law enforcement agencies shall comply with court policies.
Sounds like I can carry to the security checkpoint, then inform court security and get a gun locker.
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You best call and confirm that!
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You also might try bringing a new wand and any Harry Potter book. =D
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How about you go, get on the jury, and do your best to simply nullify all verdicts? It's more fun. =D
How about going, getting on the jury, and doing your best to seeing justice done?
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...or have it secured by security personnel.
AZ, this may not mean what you are taking it to mean. The way it's written, it could be interpreted to mean that you hand over your guns to Deputy Fife for him to "secure" in some way that is not specified in the text.
Double check.
-BP
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AZ, this may not mean what you are taking it to mean. The way it's written, it could be interpreted to mean that you hand over your guns to Deputy Fife for him to "secure" in some way that is not specified in the text.
Double check.
-BP
I just called. Yep. They have lockers for folks like me.
(That could be interpreted more than one way, too... =D)
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Better safe than sorry!
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How big are the lockers? After all, sometimes you need a backup gun, and a backup for the backup, and a backup for the backup's backup... :laugh:
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How about going, getting on the jury, and doing your best to seeing justice done?
That's the point, isn't it?
Jury duty sucks, but if good men do nothing... You guys know the rest. =|
That, and it's a friggin hoot to mess with traffic court verdicts on BS tickets. Might as well help the guy out who doesn't just knuckle under and pay the stupid ticket given as an obvious revenue generator.
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--NRA ball cap
--Carry a well-worn Bible
--Tee shirt featuring "Ask me about Jury Nullification"
--Camo pants
--Highly polished airborne jump boots
--Beard, gotta have a beard
--Outside carry just about any large frame firearm of your choice. Maximum effect achieve with a 1911 cocked and locked in a yaqui holster.
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--NRA ball cap
--Carry a well-worn Bible
--Tee shirt featuring "Ask me about Jury Nullification"
--Camo pants
--Highly polished airborne jump boots
--Beard, gotta have a beard
--Outside carry just about any large frame firearm of your choice. Maximum effect achieve with a 1911 cocked and locked in a yaqui holster.
He's in Arizona......He'll just blend in..... =D =D =D
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Forget the guns. Show up at the courthouse wearing a wedding dress or something.
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No mustache.
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Forget the guns. Show up at the courthouse wearing a wedding dress or something.
At least here in Dupage county that woudn't be that unusual.....Friday is the day they do civil wedding ceremonies....
However, the mustache'd bride might raise a couple fo eyebrows.....
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On second thought, don't bring AS. You're already in one trial; why put yourself through another?
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Speaking of Fountainhead drivel... =D
Roark's first job is a CT shoreline house atop granite cliffs, he even uses the same granite for the house so it blends in. Problem? Once you get down near the shore in CT it's all basaltic rock. You can actually watch the change take place as you drive from midstate to the shoreline. :laugh:
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However, the mustache'd bride might raise a couple fo eyebrows.....
Maybe the picture came from a wedding in San Francisco, where it wouldn't raise many eyebrows . . .