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Title: BREAKING NEWS: Hundreds of Iowans thrown out of public hearing
Post by: RadioFreeSeaLab on April 01, 2009, 04:16:22 PM
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090331/NEWS/90331051&s=d&page=11

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BREAKING NEWS: Hundreds of Iowans thrown out of public hearing

By JASON CLAYWORTH
jclayworth@dmreg.com

More than 500 people who are upset with a plan to change Iowa's tax laws were cleared from a hearing tonight at the Iowa House after they interrupted multiple times.

House Speaker Pat Murphy, D-Dubuque, cleared the crowd at about 8:30 p.m. The decision brought about loud protests as the crowd was escorted from the chambers by Iowa State Patrol officers.

“This is the most atrocious thing I’ve seen in the history of the 15 years I’ve been a lobbyist. Pat Murphy has acted like a jack-booted Nazi,” said Ed Failor Jr., president of Iowans for Tax Relief, a conservative taxpayers’ rights group from Muscatine with 50,000 members..

Failor Jr. was escorted from the House chambers after Murphy overheard him speak with the media.

House rules say that no protesting or advocating can be done in the House.

Murphy said he should have ordered the chambers cleared much sooner than he did, since several of the speakers were booed.

“The idea behind the public hearing is to give people public input and allow people the ability to speak for and against the bill. This is not an athletic event,” Murphy said.

After the majority of the public was removed, the scheduled speakers were allowed to continue. The hearing is scheduled to last until about 9:45 p.m.

The proposal, House File 807 and Senate Study Bill 1317, would end a practice known as federal deductibility. That means Iowans could no longer subtract what they pay in federal income taxes from their income when figuring their state taxes.

Ending federal deductibility without changing anything else would mean Iowans would pay an estimated $595 million more in taxes. However, Democrats have proposed a plan that would instead lower the state income tax rates and increase certain tax credits to offset the increase.

Democrats have maintained that two-thirds of Iowans would either see a tax savings or no change at all in their taxes due to the proposal.

Specific numbers show that 49 percent of Iowans who file taxes would get a break in the current tax year, while about 18 percent would see no change.

The remainder – 450,292 people – would see a tax increase, according to the Iowa department of Revenue and Finance.

Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: Hundreds of Iowans thrown out of public hearing
Post by: makattak on April 01, 2009, 04:22:02 PM
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090331/NEWS/90331051&s=d&page=11



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Ending federal deductibility without changing anything else would mean Iowans would pay an estimated $595 million more in taxes. However, Democrats have proposed a plan that would instead lower the state income tax rates and increase certain tax credits to offset the increase.

Democrats have maintained that two-thirds of Iowans would either see a tax savings or no change at all in their taxes due to the proposal.

Then... why do they want to change it?...

OHHHHHH so that it'll be easier to raise taxes in the future by claiming they're "just removing some of the tax breaks".
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: Hundreds of Iowans thrown out of public hearing
Post by: Gewehr98 on April 01, 2009, 04:22:09 PM
Follow-on story:

Local WalMart has a run on metal colanders...  =D
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: Hundreds of Iowans thrown out of public hearing
Post by: charby on April 01, 2009, 04:29:19 PM
I almost attended that last night. When I got home last night and watched the news, I wish I was there to politely tell Mr Pat Murphy to go fork himself. Murphy is one of those typical smug liberal forktards.

Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: Hundreds of Iowans thrown out of public hearing
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on April 01, 2009, 04:39:21 PM
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Ending federal deductibility without changing anything else would mean Iowans would pay an estimated $595 million more in taxes. However, Democrats have proposed a plan that would instead lower the state income tax rates and increase certain tax credits to offset the increase.

I hate this type of mickey-mouse horsepucky.

Anyone voting for this, is voting for a tax increase at some point in the future.  And for duplicity.
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: Hundreds of Iowans thrown out of public hearing
Post by: charby on April 01, 2009, 04:43:03 PM
I hate this type of mickey-mouse horsepucky.

Anyone voting for this, is voting for a tax increase at some point in the future.  And for duplicity.

It is the Democrats pushing this, unfortunatly they have majority in House, Senate and Governor's office in Iowa.

Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: Hundreds of Iowans thrown out of public hearing
Post by: charby on April 01, 2009, 04:47:45 PM
Pat Murphy can go pound sand.

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Iowa Senate panel OKs tax plan

By: Associated Press
Published: Wednesday, April 1, 2009 1:32 PM CDT
DES MOINES -- An overhaul of Iowa's income tax system has cleared another legislative hurdle despite threats of political retaliation.

The $600 million proposal was approved Wednesday by the tax-writing Senate Ways and Means Committee, with Democrats in favor and Republicans opposed. That cleared the way for debate in the full Senate next week.

The House is scheduled to debate the measure Thursday.

Ed Failor, president of Iowans for Tax Relief, says Democrats will pay a price for supporting the measure if it becomes law.

The proposal would lower tax rates by ending deductions of federal taxes. About two-thirds of Iowans would see a tax cut or no change, and most of those who earn more than $125,000 would pay more.
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: Hundreds of Iowans thrown out of public hearing
Post by: seeker_two on April 01, 2009, 05:12:54 PM
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More than 500 people who are upset with a plan to change Iowa's tax laws were cleared from a hearing tonight at the Iowa House after they interrupted multiple times.

...and what would they have done if all 500 had refused to leave?....  :|
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: Hundreds of Iowans thrown out of public hearing
Post by: Gewehr98 on April 01, 2009, 05:21:44 PM
I can haz civul worr?
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: Hundreds of Iowans thrown out of public hearing
Post by: charby on April 01, 2009, 05:31:40 PM
I can haz civul worr?

Fun hater
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: Hundreds of Iowans thrown out of public hearing
Post by: Gewehr98 on April 01, 2009, 05:36:32 PM
I can haz Charby-pantless civul worr?   =D
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: Hundreds of Iowans thrown out of public hearing
Post by: El Tejon on April 01, 2009, 07:14:54 PM
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Local WalMart has a run on metal colanders... 

What?  You want to bring her over here!

*kicks rocks*  I can't have any fun.

 :police: => Internet-Polizei

Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: Hundreds of Iowans thrown out of public hearing
Post by: charby on April 01, 2009, 11:30:48 PM
I can haz Charby-pantless civul worr?   =D

purrr-fect :)

Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: Hundreds of Iowans thrown out of public hearing
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 02, 2009, 01:05:07 AM
Charby and G98.   :O  Get a room, you two, and keep it between yourselves.  NO ONE is that sex-positive.   :police:
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: Hundreds of Iowans thrown out of public hearing
Post by: charby on April 02, 2009, 10:09:10 AM
Charby and G98.   :O  Get a room, you two, and keep it between yourselves.  NO ONE is that sex-positive.   :police:

Only the pantless will survive.

Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: Hundreds of Iowans thrown out of public hearing
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 02, 2009, 10:39:54 AM
You know, I was probably wrong.  It is entirely possible that Microbalrog is that sex-positive.
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: Hundreds of Iowans thrown out of public hearing
Post by: Matthew Carberry on April 04, 2009, 11:32:00 PM
It is the Democrats pushing this, unfortunatly they have majority in House, Senate and Governor's office in Iowa.



What is their majority in the governor's office?  :angel:
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: Hundreds of Iowans thrown out of public hearing
Post by: roo_ster on April 05, 2009, 11:50:56 AM
What is their majority in the governor's office?  :angel:

A majority of one?
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: Hundreds of Iowans thrown out of public hearing
Post by: seeker_two on April 05, 2009, 03:50:11 PM
A majority of one?

That's like....an army.....  =D
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: Hundreds of Iowans thrown out of public hearing
Post by: charby on April 05, 2009, 10:33:13 PM
What is their majority in the governor's office?  :angel:

Uncle Chet has a majority of stupid.

Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: Hundreds of Iowans thrown out of public hearing
Post by: MechAg94 on April 06, 2009, 08:34:02 PM
It is the Democrats pushing this, unfortunatly they have majority in House, Senate and Governor's office in Iowa.


And those same people will probably forget about this come the next election and keep voting for them.  Or they won't bother to help elect the challenger.
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: Hundreds of Iowans thrown out of public hearing
Post by: Strings on April 08, 2009, 04:07:01 AM
>Only the pantless will survive.<

Oh... I should be fine then... :P