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Title: American Capitalism Gone with a Whimper - Pravda
Post by: RadioFreeSeaLab on May 30, 2009, 03:23:36 AM
I hate that I agree with this article.

http://english.pravda.ru/print/opinion/columnists/107459-american_capitalism-0

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American capitalism gone with a whimper
27.04.2009    Source: Pravda.Ru    URL: http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/107459-american_capitalism-0

It must be said, that like the breaking of a great dam, the American decent into Marxism is happening with breath taking speed, against the back drop of a passive, hapless sheeple, excuse me dear reader, I meant people.

True, the situation has been well prepared on and off for the past century, especially the past twenty years. The initial testing grounds was conducted upon our Holy Russia and a bloody test it was. But we Russians would not just roll over and give up our freedoms and our souls, no matter how much money Wall Street poured into the fists of the Marxists.

Those lessons were taken and used to properly prepare the American populace for the surrender of their freedoms and souls, to the whims of their elites and betters.

First, the population was dumbed down through a politicized and substandard education system based on pop culture, rather then the classics. Americans know more about their favorite TV dramas then the drama in DC that directly affects their lives. They care more for their "right" to choke down a McDonalds burger or a BurgerKing burger than for their constitutional rights. Then they turn around and lecture us about our rights and about our "democracy". Pride blind the foolish.

Then their faith in God was destroyed, until their churches, all tens of thousands of different "branches and denominations" were for the most part little more then Sunday circuses and their televangelists and top protestant mega preachers were more then happy to sell out their souls and flocks to be on the "winning" side of one pseudo Marxist politician or another. Their flocks may complain, but when explained that they would be on the "winning" side, their flocks were ever so quick to reject Christ in hopes for earthly power. Even our Holy Orthodox churches are scandalously liberalized in America.

The final collapse has come with the election of Barack Obama. His speed in the past three months has been truly impressive. His spending and money printing has been a record setting, not just in America's short history but in the world. If this keeps up for more then another year, and there is no sign that it will not, America at best will resemble the Wiemar Republic and at worst Zimbabwe.

These past two weeks have been the most breath taking of all. First came the announcement of a planned redesign of the American Byzantine tax system, by the very thieves who used it to bankroll their thefts, loses and swindles of hundreds of billions of dollars. These make our Russian oligarchs look little more then ordinary street thugs, in comparison. Yes, the Americans have beat our own thieves in the shear volumes. Should we congratulate them?

These men, of course, are not an elected panel but made up of appointees picked from the very financial oligarchs and their henchmen who are now gorging themselves on trillions of American dollars, in one bailout after another. They are also usurping the rights, duties and powers of the American congress (parliament). Again, congress has put up little more then a whimper to their masters.

Then came Barack Obama's command that GM's (General Motor) president step down from leadership of his company. That is correct, dear reader, in the land of "pure" free markets, the American president now has the power, the self given power, to fire CEOs and we can assume other employees of private companies, at will. Come hither, go dither, the centurion commands his minions.

So it should be no surprise, that the American president has followed this up with a "bold" move of declaring that he and another group of unelected, chosen stooges will now redesign the entire automotive industry and will even be the guarantee of automobile policies. I am sure that if given the chance, they would happily try and redesign it for the whole of the world, too. Prime Minister Putin, less then two months ago, warned Obama and UK's Blair, not to follow the path to Marxism, it only leads to disaster. Apparently, even though we suffered 70 years of this Western sponsored horror show, we know nothing, as foolish, drunken Russians, so let our "wise" Anglo-Saxon fools find out the folly of their own pride.

Again, the American public has taken this with barely a whimper...but a "freeman" whimper.

So, should it be any surprise to discover that the Democratically controlled Congress of America is working on passing a new regulation that would give the American Treasury department the power to set "fair" maximum salaries, evaluate performance and control how private companies give out pay raises and bonuses? Senator Barney Franks, a social pervert basking in his homosexuality (of course, amongst the modern, enlightened American societal norm, as well as that of the general West, homosexuality is not only not a looked down upon life choice, but is often praised as a virtue) and his Marxist enlightenment, has led this effort. He stresses that this only affects companies that receive government monies, but it is retroactive and taken to a logical extreme, this would include any company or industry that has ever received a tax break or incentive.

The Russian owners of American companies and industries should look thoughtfully at this and the option of closing their facilities down and fleeing the land of the Red as fast as possible. In other words, divest while there is still value left.

The proud American will go down into his slavery with out a fight, beating his chest and proclaiming to the world, how free he really is. The world will only snicker.

Stanislav Mishin

Title: Re: American Capitalism Gone with a Whimper - Pravda
Post by: brimic on May 30, 2009, 03:36:19 AM
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I hate that I agree with this article.

ditto
Title: Re: American Capitalism Gone with a Whimper - Pravda
Post by: S. Williamson on May 30, 2009, 03:59:23 AM
Too long; didn't read





/sarcasm

Is there anything we can actually do anymore?
Title: Re: American Capitalism Gone with a Whimper - Pravda
Post by: PTK on May 30, 2009, 04:12:43 AM
...that was sort of painful to read. There are things pointed out I'd rather not be aware of - these are troubling times...  =(
Title: Re: American Capitalism Gone with a Whimper - Pravda
Post by: seeker_two on May 30, 2009, 09:41:06 AM
Quote from: Stanislav Mishin
The proud American will go down into his slavery with out a fight, beating his chest and proclaiming to the world, how free he really is. The world will only snicker.


Wow....and coming from PRAVDA, no less....  :O

Who ever thought that Russia would end up being a nation with more liberty (still gotta work on RKBA) than the USA....  =|
Title: Re: American Capitalism Gone with a Whimper - Pravda
Post by: Sergeant Bob on May 30, 2009, 10:46:27 AM
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Quote from: Stanislav Mishin
The proud American will go down into his slavery with out a fight, beating his chest and proclaiming to the world, how free he really is. The world will only snicker.

Wow....and coming from PRAVDA, no less....  :O

Who ever thought that Russia would end up being a nation with more liberty (still gotta work on RKBA) than the USA....  =|

Indeed. That article was very painful to read.
Title: Re: American Capitalism Gone with a Whimper - Pravda
Post by: longeyes on May 30, 2009, 11:55:06 AM
Consider the source and consider the political realities.

We need to be very careful not to box ourselves into a choice between a crushing socialism and a gangster version of capitalism. To many of us it appears we are rapidly embracing some travesty of both.  The Founders stood for neither, and neither should we.

(That doesn't mean the criticisms don't sting; indeed, they do.)
Title: Re: American Capitalism Gone with a Whimper - Pravda
Post by: brimic on May 30, 2009, 12:41:50 PM
On the bright side, ammo is scarce because millions of people have been stocking up for interesting times ahead- I have a feeling that its not the far left socialists that have the stockpiles of weapons and ammo. :cool:
Title: Re: American Capitalism Gone with a Whimper - Pravda
Post by: brimic on May 30, 2009, 01:07:16 PM
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We need to be very careful not to box ourselves into a choice between a crushing socialism and a gangster version of capitalism.

They are pretty much one in the same. The current situation with the bailouts only means that those few at the very top will stay where they are while the middle class will be wiped out due to massive inflation.
If we continue down the path we are going, there will be only 2 classes of people: the people who are currently multibillionaires and government figures vs the rest of us.
Title: Re: American Capitalism Gone with a Whimper - Pravda
Post by: MicroBalrog on May 30, 2009, 01:20:59 PM
Wow....and coming from PRAVDA, no less....  :O

Who ever thought that Russia would end up being a nation with more liberty (still gotta work on RKBA) than the USA....  =|

Not true.

Russia is not more free than the United States in any issue. Russia is in the bottom of the world Market Freedom Ratings and and Freedom of the Press Ratings. I can hardly imagine a dimension in which a country where there is no private property in land can be more free than the United States.
Title: Re: American Capitalism Gone with a Whimper - Pravda
Post by: longeyes on May 30, 2009, 06:48:48 PM
We are tempted to think that people who agree with our sentiments must share our deepest values.  Not necessarily.  Russia's economic oligarchy, which mirrors feudalistic structures of the past, is all too similar to what Obama appears to have in mind for us once "America is returned to its rightful owners."


Title: Re: American Capitalism Gone with a Whimper - Pravda
Post by: freakazoid on May 30, 2009, 09:02:14 PM
HA! Marxist, snicker.

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(of course, amongst the modern, enlightened American societal norm, as well as that of the general West, homosexuality is not only not a looked down upon life choice, but is often praised as a virtue)

What the heck is the bs? And, "Often praised as a virtue", give me a break,  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: American Capitalism Gone with a Whimper - Pravda
Post by: Balog on May 30, 2009, 09:11:07 PM
HA! Marxist, snicker.


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"Not real Communists? Whattya base that on?"

"Cause it didn't work when they tried it, and Communism works."

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Title: Re: American Capitalism Gone with a Whimper - Pravda
Post by: freakazoid on May 30, 2009, 09:16:12 PM
Fail.
Title: Re: American Capitalism Gone with a Whimper - Pravda
Post by: Balog on May 31, 2009, 01:10:50 AM
Freak: are you denying that (on this very forum) you've been called out on being Marxist? And that you responded with "But those weren't real Communists!"? Go ahead and try it, I enjoy using both the Search and Quote functions.
Title: Re: American Capitalism Gone with a Whimper - Pravda
Post by: Waitone on May 31, 2009, 01:37:48 PM
Its a little early for pushback to make an appearance.  Rest assured it will show up.  Can't make an predictions as to the form it will take but pushback will happen.
Title: Re: American Capitalism Gone with a Whimper - Pravda
Post by: Monkeyleg on May 31, 2009, 06:54:32 PM
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Its a little early for pushback to make an appearance.  Rest assured it will show up.  Can't make an predictions as to the form it will take but pushback will happen.

I've been ready for about 120 days.
Title: Re: American Capitalism Gone with a Whimper - Pravda
Post by: Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas on May 31, 2009, 10:09:33 PM
Its a little early for pushback to make an appearance.  Rest assured it will show up.  Can't make an predictions as to the form it will take but pushback will happen.
What is 'pushback'? Anything like 'blowback'?
Title: Re: American Capitalism Gone with a Whimper - Pravda
Post by: Sergeant Bob on June 01, 2009, 01:18:02 AM
Today at 8am, GM will be declaring an Obama ordered bankruptcy and the government will own a 60% share of Government Motors, which they paid for with our hard earned tax dollars that we will never see a penny of. =(
Title: Re: American Capitalism Gone with a Whimper - Pravda
Post by: seeker_two on June 01, 2009, 02:22:37 AM
... which they paid for with our hard earned tax dollars that we will never see a penny of. =(


Kinda like foreign aid....but closer....  ;/
Title: Re: American Capitalism Gone with a Whimper - Pravda
Post by: MicroBalrog on June 01, 2009, 05:06:05 AM
Kinda like foreign aid....but closer....  ;/

But-but-but! If you oppose the foreign aid system, you hate Jews!
Title: Re: American Capitalism Gone with a Whimper - Pravda
Post by: seeker_two on June 01, 2009, 07:17:24 AM
But-but-but! If you oppose the foreign aid system, you hate Jews!

...and Africans....don't forget the Africans....  ;/
Title: Re: American Capitalism Gone with a Whimper - Pravda
Post by: K Frame on June 01, 2009, 12:07:13 PM
Not politics. Closed.