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Title: WANT. Severely.
Post by: S. Williamson on August 02, 2009, 03:26:27 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDbQ5xvsrIU

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtGQqPXDoZs

and, of course,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz4uqvy6wNg

I've been out of RC modeling for years, mainly due to money.  Seeing these makes me tingly and starts me bouncing up and down like a second-grader without his Ritalin saying "Gimme gimme gimme!"  =D
Title: Re: WANT. Severely.
Post by: bedlamite on August 02, 2009, 03:43:19 AM
Entry fees on  turbine R/C planes start at $10K, There was a 10' wingspan A-10 on Evilbay a while back with a reserve of $25K. Way out of my price range. I've got a 4' wingspan F117 that I'm eventually going to put a pair of EDF's into. price tag will be around $1K.
Title: Re: WANT. Severely.
Post by: S. Williamson on August 02, 2009, 04:03:51 AM
What... what's the point of even having one if you didn't build it yourself?

(Last one I had was a Fokker D.VII made from scratch and plans)
Title: Re: WANT. Severely.
Post by: bedlamite on August 02, 2009, 04:18:17 AM
The 10K entry level price tag I listed was for BIY. A single engine small one. Turbines ain't cheap. IIRC, he lost money selling the A-10.
Title: Re: WANT. Severely.
Post by: S. Williamson on August 02, 2009, 04:46:14 AM
...

... wow.

/whips out Dremel, box of bits, and a block of steel
//begins whittling a multistage turbine
Title: Re: WANT. Severely.
Post by: Owens on August 02, 2009, 08:22:44 AM
Or how about these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA9OhmFdn-M   (Mi-24)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPD9Gw0mEIk (Skycrane)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT7V0aniBR8 (non turbine CH46)

Title: Re: WANT. Severely.
Post by: MillCreek on August 02, 2009, 09:18:57 AM
A turbine-powered RC helicopter.  Oh, the fun I could have conducting missions against the cat!
Title: Re: WANT. Severely.
Post by: bedlamite on August 02, 2009, 09:39:43 AM
A turbine-powered RC helicopter.  Oh, the fun I could have conducting missions against the cat!

Try one of these first (http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=EFLH2200)
Title: Re: WANT. Severely.
Post by: Bigjake on August 02, 2009, 10:06:42 AM
Try one of these first (http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=EFLH2200)

Can't get a 1911 on that :evil:  :cool:

http://gizmodo.com/5107100/rc-helicopter-modded-45-caliber-handgun-will-probably-end-in-disaster

Title: Re: WANT. Severely.
Post by: Nightfall on August 02, 2009, 01:13:01 PM
So what would be involved in getting a live video feed from one of these RC planes/helicopters, onboard sensors that transmit accurate flight info... and maybe little rockets with pop-its size payloads?  =D
Title: Re: WANT. Severely.
Post by: mtnbkr on August 02, 2009, 01:29:55 PM
So what would be involved in getting a live video feed from one of these RC planes/helicopters, onboard sensors that transmit accurate flight info... and maybe little rockets with pop-its size payloads?  =D

A guy in my ham radio club does that sort of thing, well, without the rockets and such.

Chris
Title: Re: WANT. Severely.
Post by: MillCreek on August 02, 2009, 02:36:25 PM
It would be truly excellent if I could fire tiny Nerf missiles at the cat, particularly while sweeping in over the beach, well, carpet, on a strafing run while "Ride of the Valkyries" plays from the chopper!
Title: Re: WANT. Severely.
Post by: erictank on August 02, 2009, 05:49:35 PM
Try one of these first (http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=EFLH2200)

Hey, bedlamite - you know about RC helis and so forth?  How does something like the one you linked compare to flying a larger-scale, "real" RC heli?  My stepson got one of those little ready-to-fly jobs for Christmas last year, and honestly, it's so frustrating that no one will play with it.  It absolutely WILL NOT hover, and there's about a minute-of-degree-of-angle difference on the sticks between a creeping-slow rise/forward/reverse flight, as appropriate, and bat-out-of-hell-put-a-hole-in-the-wall flight.  Now, his didn't cost $130, either - probably closer to $30, I'd guess, which probably makes a huge difference - but if the $130 job would actually be fun to fly, it might be worth getting one.

In a more-general discussion of neato RC aircraft, I've seen some phenomenal vids online (some of which you may actually have linked, for all I know - I'm at work now, and they frown on Youtube).  In particular, I've seen vids of a B-52 and an F-16 that, once they were airborne, you almost could not tell that they were RC.  Wingspan on the B-52 was huge, too, something like 15 feet.  I remember being sorely tempted by an RC Airwolf a number of years back, as well.  Same model they used for Season 3 of the show, IIRC (when they couldn't afford to rent the actual helicopter anymore and still needed aerial work they didn't already have on film).  Way out of my budget, though, for sure.  I've got too much else to spend money on, to get into that.
Title: Re: WANT. Severely.
Post by: Kwelz on August 02, 2009, 09:07:11 PM
I miss flying  :( 
Title: Re: WANT. Severely.
Post by: Owens on August 02, 2009, 09:51:32 PM
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So what would be involved in getting a live video feed from one of these RC planes/helicopters, onboard sensors that transmit accurate flight info

May not be totally what you are looking for Nightfall, but it's a good start. Some video there too I think.

http://www.bergenrc.com/ObserverTwin.php
Title: Re: WANT. Severely.
Post by: bedlamite on August 02, 2009, 10:13:41 PM
erictank, at $30 you've probably got an air hogs (http://www.airhogs.com/). They don't have proportional control, it's a 2 stage switch. When they came out a couple of guys at work each bought one and wouldn't you know it, somehow it turned into a demo derby, only nobody could hit anybody else. The Eflite Blade is a whole different game, with a fully proportional radio it's very easy to control. With the co-ax rotor it's not capable of inverted flight, but a collective pitch heli is an order of magnitude harder to fly too.
Title: Re: WANT. Severely.
Post by: S. Williamson on August 02, 2009, 10:32:29 PM
Maybe something like this, for fun (although $100): http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/rc/a5b7/
Title: Re: WANT. Severely.
Post by: erictank on August 03, 2009, 12:59:15 AM
erictank, at $30 you've probably got an air hogs (http://www.airhogs.com/). They don't have proportional control, it's a 2 stage switch. When they came out a couple of guys at work each bought one and wouldn't you know it, somehow it turned into a demo derby, only nobody could hit anybody else. The Eflite Blade is a whole different game, with a fully proportional radio it's very easy to control. With the co-ax rotor it's not capable of inverted flight, but a collective pitch heli is an order of magnitude harder to fly too.

Yup, on that site, the one David has looks almost identical to the Havoc heli - no IR blaster, though.  After much work, I got to where I could reliably fly it through a doorway without hitting the frame - how is THAT supposed to be fun?!?  Thanks for your response, and we'll be thinking about that Eflite. 
Title: Re: WANT. Severely.
Post by: bedlamite on August 03, 2009, 08:13:17 AM
The Blade is also a 4 channel, left stick is throttle and yaw, right stick is pitch in all 4 directions. The Air Hogs only has throttle (up and forward at the same time) and yaw. It might help the air hogs heli  if you tape a staple or two to the nose, the ones I've seen all had the CG too far back.
Title: Re: WANT. Severely.
Post by: Scout26 on August 03, 2009, 10:15:15 AM
I got my son a pair of knock-off air hogs at Menards for $30.  They lasted about a week.  Only took about an hour to get 'em dialed in.  The nice thing is that we have catherdal ceilings so lots of room to fly. 

We got pretty good at shooting each other down.

However once we turned to attacking the dog, they didn't last long.  They just weren't built to be chomped on by a beagle.  :O :O
Title: Re: WANT. Severely.
Post by: Nightfall on August 03, 2009, 11:09:50 AM
May not be totally what you are looking for Nightfall, but it's a good start. Some video there too I think.

http://www.bergenrc.com/ObserverTwin.php
Pretty dang good start, I'd say. Little out of my "passing interest" price range, though.  =D
Title: Re: WANT. Severely.
Post by: Leatherneck on August 03, 2009, 06:15:28 PM
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pitch in all 4 directions
The pilot in me hits your helmet with my kneeboard: PITCH is nose up, nose down. ROLL is left wing down/right wing down. Sorry to Knitpick.

TC