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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: Gewehr98 on August 08, 2009, 03:35:52 PM
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I took my annual pilgramage to Oshkosh, but this time I had my 8 year-old nephew in tow, as well as his grandfather.
The New Waco Company had a pair of 2009 Waco biplanes on display. Pretty spiffy, a brand-new plane right off the manufacturer's lot:
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Of course, I have a soft spot in my heart for the classic Beechcraft Staggerwing:
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There were warbirds aplenty, including a Spitfire or two:
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And a very rare Westland Lysander:
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More later...
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VERY cool. I've been wanting to go to KOSH for a loooooong time. Friend of mine and his family are making their way home from there right now in his 170. Stuck in NB right now though due to weather.
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New biplanes? I didn't know anyone was making new ones.
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New biplanes? I didn't know anyone was making new ones.
Yep. Waco and there's some homebuilts...
And then you can hang a radial (new ones are built offshore, Russia and Eastern Europe, or an overhauled/used American made) on one.
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I'd like a couple of WWII fighters built with modern materials like carbon fiber and the such to see what you could get out of one. It'd be a fun plane if you don't kill yourself with it.
Wow my spelling rocks today.
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Sweet. I wish I had known about this event, I would of taken a special trip up there.
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Sweet. I wish I had known about this event, I would of taken a special trip up there.
You can go next year. Oshkosh (or EAA Airventure, as is the "official title") happens every year and is the pilot's Mecca. Except we don't pray towards Wisconson. Well, at least most of us don't.
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I am with Lee. I did not know that anyone was making new biplanes commercially. I see some homebuilts from time to time.
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I'd like a couple of WWII fighters built with modern materials like carbon fiber and the such to see what you could get out of one. It'd been a fun plane if you don't kill yourself with it.
Some of the planes that race at the Reno Air Races are based on WWII models and use modern materials. Some of them have such a high power to weight ratio that they can out-climb most modern military jets. :O
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It's true. I had a nice chat with the factory rep who displayed the two new Wacos seen in my pics.
http://www.wacoclassic.com/about.html
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Oh wow, those are awesome pics! I think my sister went to this event a few years ago with her boyfriend. I know they went to Oshkosh and it was an airplane show of some sort.
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Oh wow, those are awesome pics! I think my sister went to this event a few years ago with her boyfriend. I know they went to Oshkosh and it was an airplane show of some sort.
Speaking as a pilot, Oshkosh is "THE" airshow.
A small airshow is merely impressive. Oshkosh is overwhelming.
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Speaking as a pilot, Oshkosh is "THE" airshow.
A small airshow is merely impressive. Oshkosh is overwhelming.
So much so that you really need at least a couple of days to take it all in.
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Very cool. Thanks for posting. I bet the kid had a blast, great you could take him.
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You can go next year. Oshkosh (or EAA Airventure, as is the "official title") happens every year and is the pilot's Mecca. Except we don't pray towards Wisconson. Well, at least most of us don't.
I can't. I am only in the area until I finish my school here then I will be shipped to somewhere else, I'm in the Navy.
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I can't. I am only in the area until I finish my school here then I will be shipped to somewhere else, I'm in the Navy.
Get yourself posted on an aircraft carrier, and you won't need to go to the airshow. ;)
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I'd rather have the warthog... if I could fly that is. =D
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I'd rather have the warthog... if I could fly that is. =D
Everyone can fly a plane. It's the landing that will often prove to be tricky =D.
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The poor kid was exhausted, but happy as a clam. Here he is with his grandpa warming up to an F-86 Sabre, same vintage as the one his grandpa saw service with during the Korean War:
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This one's for LennyJoe:
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Sikorsky S-64 SkyCrane, as used by Erickson for water-bombing (Quite the demonstration they gave, too!):
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Honda's new bizjet, dunno where they're gonna put the fart can and Kanji stickers, but here it is:
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As for being military and not able to attend, I took leave every year to make the pilgramage, or at least made the effort. What else are you gonna do with 30 days of annual vacation? (Granted, if you're stuck on a boat, that's a different story, but you wouldn't find me doing that, anyway...) =D
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I love driving by Oshkosh every year that EAA has the event, I do NOT like how they close off the exits so they're EAA only.
I have to use that particular exit to get to one of my delivery stops just down the road, and they force me to go past to the next exit, then use the frontage road to come back a half mile.
I know a half mile is no big deal, but in the truck I use, it's a pain.
I do get a huge kick of sitting in our store there and watching the bombers do fly-bys.
I can't help but rubberneck to see all the planes and copters in the sky as I head towards there.
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Everyone can fly a plane. It's the landing that will often prove to be tricky =D.
Fine, if I could land a plane! :laugh:
But if I'm flying the Warthog can't I just eject instead? =D
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But if I'm flying the Warthog can't I just eject instead? =D
So long as you only wanna do it once.
:P
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On that Honda Jet, is it just me or does it look like the engine stick UP from the wing?
I'll have to try to take leave next time. Shoot, at this rate, long hold times in between courses, I'll probably still be going to school here or I'll be in c-school in another state. The fleet is a myth. =D
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On that Honda Jet, is it just me or does it look like the engine stick UP from the wing?
I'll have to try to take leave next time. Shoot, at this rate, long hold times in between courses, I'll probably still be going to school here or I'll be in c-school in another state. The fleet is a myth. =D
The engines are mounted on pylons coming up from the wing instead of the usual mounting point up and behind the cabin as on other business jets.
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In the past 2 months I have seen 3 A-10 low ceiling flybys and one Apache.
Anyone have any idea why I would be seeing these aircraft. Whiteman is the only reason I can think of but it's a fair distance away.
The A10s give me goose bumps everytime. This last one had me running outside to see what it was.. it was so low I thought a plane wreck was going to be in sight.
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In the past 2 months I have seen 3 A-10 low ceiling flybys and one Apache.
Anyone have any idea why I would be seeing these aircraft. Whiteman is the only reason I can think of but it's a fair distance away.
The A10s give me goose bumps everytime. This last one had me running outside to see what it was.. it was so low I thought a plane wreck was going to be in sight.
You live or work near a low level training route or an MOA (Military Operations Area)?
Got a low level route running near my house, so I get to see the cool stuff all the time. Cobras, Blackhawks, Ospreys, CH-46s/47s, CH-53s, I've seen a lot, mainly helicopters. Even have some arrangements with the .mil for them to use our airfield for training.
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In the past 2 months I have seen 3 A-10 low ceiling flybys and one Apache.
Anyone have any idea why I would be seeing these aircraft. Whiteman is the only reason I can think of but it's a fair distance away.
The A10s give me goose bumps everytime. This last one had me running outside to see what it was.. it was so low I thought a plane wreck was going to be in sight.
They've discovered your secrets, the black dark grey helicopters will be coming for you soon.
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DamnDamnDamnDamn. Damnit.
I was going this year, had a ride in with a very knowledgable friend. Even the wife had the week off. Unfortunately, my sister selfishly decided to have a medical emergency and was hospitalized. I got to talk to lawyers, who think they're God, and doctors, who know they are. As some Jews say, "next year, in Israel (Oshkosh)".
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Info and photos of the Hondajet, if you're interested: http://hondajet.honda.com/default.aspx?bhcp=1
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Gawd I love the A10. Peace through superior firepower. Not sure why the Air Farce tried to mothball the thing.
:rolleyes:
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That new WACO makes me drool. If I was a rich man I'd own it.
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In the past 2 months I have seen 3 A-10 low ceiling flybys and one Apache.
Anyone have any idea why I would be seeing these aircraft. Whiteman is the only reason I can think of but it's a fair distance away.
The A10s give me goose bumps everytime. This last one had me running outside to see what it was.. it was so low I thought a plane wreck was going to be in sight.
If you're ever in PA, go here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chickies_Ridge) for viewing A10's. They pass by Chickies Rock at eye level or lower. Nothing like looking DOWN at an A10 going past.
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Gawd I love the A10. Peace through superior firepower. Not sure why the Air Farce tried to mothball the thing.
:rolleyes:
Probably because it was too specialized as a tank killer, and we haven't really gone up against anyone that can field tanks in large numbers for a while. Plus, with the Apache and Abrams also covering that role rather well, it is a bit redundant.
The frame, though is probably one of the more survivable ever designed. It's too bad they couldn't figure out a way to remake it into a general purpose bomber or something similar. I understand that it can carry bombs, but that didn't ever seem to become it's primary role, at least to my knowledge (which is admittedly sparse in this area).
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maybe we could refit one to drop Rosie O on the enemy. Oh wait, that might be against the Geneva Convention rules. Damn...
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Probably because it was too specialized as a tank killer, and we haven't really gone up against anyone that can field tanks in large numbers for a while. Plus, with the Apache and Abrams also covering that role rather well, it is a bit redundant.
The frame, though is probably one of the more survivable ever designed. It's too bad they couldn't figure out a way to remake it into a general purpose bomber or something similar. I understand that it can carry bombs, but that didn't ever seem to become it's primary role, at least to my knowledge (which is admittedly sparse in this area).
You are correct, it was meant solely as a tank killer able to survive on the (then) modern battlefield and kill as many tanks as possible using the Maverick missiles and the GAU-8/A 30mm cannon, returning to forward area bases to rearm and refuel and sortie again. Bomb dropping and such is a secondary role.
The A-10, last I heard, is scheduled for upgrades and to remain in service.
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It was scheduled to be handed over to the Army as the O/A-10, but the USAF discovered that the F-16 just couldn't handle the tank-busting role like the A-10.
LennyJoe will do a better job than I describing it, but the A-10 is now upgraded to the A-10C variant, and will remain in service for a long time.
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Anything that can fly that low, that slow and put that much lead on target is a fantastic CAS aircraft.
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Now, to learn to land... :laugh:
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"next year, in Israel (Oshkosh)".
Technically, we say, "Next year, in Jerusalem."
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Gawd I love the A10. Peace through superior firepower. Not sure why the Air Farce tried to mothball the thing.
:rolleyes:
Because it doesn't go high-and-fast, and look sexy doing it.
It just got the job done.
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Still does. ;)