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Swedish dad in bid for breast milk
Swedish father Ragnar Bengtsson, 26, has entered into an experiment that he hopes will help him breastfeed his future children.
On Tuesday, the Stockholm family man began stimulating his breasts with a pump in a bid to produce milk.
"Anything that doesn't do any harm is worth trying out. And if it works it could prove very important for men's ability to get much closer to their children at an early stage," Bengtsson told The Local.
His efforts are to be documented by Swedish TV8, with the first instalment scheduled to air at 9pm on Wednesday on the Aschberg show. Bengtsson also maintains a blog on the station's website, the title of which translates as: 'The Milkman - One Drop at a Time'.
Bengtsson is preparing to pump his breasts at three-hour intervals every day until the beginning of December. As a full time economics student at Stockholm University, he is not always going to be in a position to pump in private.
"I'm going to have to pull out the pump during lectures. But really it doesn't bother me if it makes people uncomfortable. If they have issues with it that's their problem," he said.
Male lactation is a relatively common side effect of hormone treatments, but Bengtsson has no plans to chemically induce the process.
"If it works and the milk turns out to have a high nutritional value it could be a real breakthrough," he said.
Bengtsson has a 2-year-old son who is in no way involved in the experiment, but the Stockholm dad doesn't rule our breastfeeding any future kids. Not everybody has acclaimed his quest for fathers' milk, however.
"There have been a lot of strong reactions. Some people think it's completely sick," he said.
Sigbritt Werner, professor of endocrinology at Karolinska Institutet in Stockholm, told The Local that it could be possible for Bengtsson to produce "a drop or two" after three or four months.
"Women breastfeed after they've been bathing in estrogen during a nine month pregnancy, so obviously it takes some time. But if he works on it regularly he'll likely notice a layer of tissue forming beneath the areola and it should be possible to produce enough of the hormone prolactin to cause lactation," she said.
But Werner stressed that while she was interested in the subject, she was more keen for men to use their breasts to comfort their children.
"Men often have trouble finding things. And if the mother is out, the child is screaming and they can't find the pacifier I'm sure there are a lot of men who give their baby their breasts.
"Healthy children know instinctively that the breast has a dual function. One gives them milk, the other gives them warmth and a cosy bond. Men don't need to strive to produce milk but they should take the opportunity to get closer to their child by offering them their breasts in the same way as women," she said.
Paul O'Mahony (paul.omahony@thelocal.se/08 656 6513)
This better not be you, Viking. :laugh:
This article is... peculiar. I can't say much else, because my mind is still boggled. I decided to share this weirdness with you. How many of you males wish you could lactate? :laugh:
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This better not be you, Viking. :laugh:
This article is... peculiar. I can't say much else, because my mind is still boggled. I decided to share this weirdness with you. How many of you males wish you could lactate? :laugh:
Yet another problem of our "modern" society.
Connecting to the HBD thread- too many people think male and female roles are simply "social constructs" and thus think a male can fill any role as good as a female (or vice versa). They're going to find out genetics will prove them wrong again and again.
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I'd definitely have to do some shaving around the area in question.
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Isn't this normal for Sweden? Aren't they far more "progressive" than we?
Don't men sit to urinate there?
"From Townhall.com -- Young women in Sweden, Germany and Australia have a new cause: They want men to sit down while urinating. This demand comes partly from concerns about hygiene -- avoiding the splash factor -- but, as Jasper Gerard reports in the English magazine The Spectator, ''more crucially because a man standing up to urinate is deemed to be triumphing in his masculinity, and by extension, degrading women.'' One argument is that if women can't do it, then men shouldn't either. Another is that standing upright while relieving oneself is ''a nasty macho gesture,'' suggestive of male violence.
A feminist group at Stockholm University is campaigning to ban all urinals from campus, and one Swedish elementary school has already removed them. Some Swedish women are pressuring their men to take a stand, so to speak. Yola, a 25-year-old Swedish trainee psychiatrist, says she dumps boyfriends who insist on standing. ''What else can I do?,'' said her new boyfriend, Ingvar, who sits."
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How is this a problem?
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Whatever. Let people do what they want, so long as I'm not "expected" to do the same. :O
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How is this a problem?
Um, 'cause the dude is clearly nuts?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OkcucXIuVI
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"I'm going to have to pull out the pump during lectures. But really it doesn't bother me if it makes people uncomfortable. If they have issues with it that's their problem," he said.
Judge Donald Thompson said the same thing.
http://us.yhs.search.yahoo.com/avg/search?fr=yhs-avg-chrome&type=yahoo_avg_hs2-tb-web_chrome_us&p=judge+donald+thompson
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A feminist group at Stockholm University is campaigning to ban all urinals from campus, and one Swedish elementary school has already removed them.
Some Swedish women are pressuring their men to take a stand, so to speak. Yola, a 25-year-old Swedish trainee psychiatrist, says she dumps boyfriends who insist on standing. ''What else can I do?,'' said her new boyfriend, Ingvar, who sits."
Who needs urinals? They have trees and bushes on campus, don't they? =D
It sounds like Yola really wants a girlfriend.
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either i'm getting more normal or the world is getting stranger....
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Um, 'cause the dude is clearly nuts?
I fail to see a problem here.
If the experiment succeeds and he produces delicious breastmilk, then clearly he's not nuts.
If it fails, it fails.
I fail to see how it is unethical or immoral for him to try to modify his own body in ways that appeal to him.
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You're just jealous because you didn't think of it first, MB.
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how would you know his milk was delicious?
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...as Jasper Gerard reports in the English magazine The Spectator, ''more crucially because a man standing up to urinate is deemed to be triumphing in his masculinity, and by extension, degrading women.''
Satire. It's gotta be satire, folks.
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how would you know his milk was delicious?
Well. Breast milk is known to be delicious, if you're a baby.
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Milk a cow, you get a gallon.
Milk a bull, you get a friend for life.
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I fail to see a problem here.
I'm sorry.
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Isn't this normal for Sweden? Aren't they far more "progressive" than we?
Don't men sit to urinate there?
"From Townhall.com -- Young women in Sweden, Germany and Australia have a new cause: They want men to sit down while urinating. This demand comes partly from concerns about hygiene -- avoiding the splash factor -- but, as Jasper Gerard reports in the English magazine The Spectator, ''more crucially because a man standing up to urinate is deemed to be triumphing in his masculinity, and by extension, degrading women.'' One argument is that if women can't do it, then men shouldn't either. Another is that standing upright while relieving oneself is ''a nasty macho gesture,'' suggestive of male violence.
A feminist group at Stockholm University is campaigning to ban all urinals from campus, and one Swedish elementary school has already removed them. Some Swedish women are pressuring their men to take a stand, so to speak. Yola, a 25-year-old Swedish trainee psychiatrist, says she dumps boyfriends who insist on standing. ''What else can I do?,'' said her new boyfriend, Ingvar, who sits."
Judging us by the actions of a bunch of misguided feminazis is like declaring the US to be nuts merely because you have Diane Feinstein, Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer. Yeah, feminazis are turning into a pest species over here, but I can honestly say that I have yet to meet ANYONE who agrees with them. Then again, I live in a small town. I guess we are a bit more sensible. Bit more conservative (ie openminded, but not so much that our brains have fallen out).
This better not be you, Viking. :laugh:
This article is... peculiar. I can't say much else, because my mind is still boggled. I decided to share this weirdness with you. How many of you males wish you could lactate? :laugh:
Not me, praised be Odin. :P
Seeing that I will never, ever have kids, I shan't have this delicate dilemma.
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If you say feminazi, do you feminiGodwin the feminithread? :O
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While I will profess a fondness for the traditional source of breast milk, this guy is a bit odd.
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There's a saying about tits on a boar hog...
Maybe we can get viking to translate it out and email it to this nut..
Milk a cow, you get a gallon.
Milk a bull, you get a friend for life.
Heh. Ever see the movie "Hatari"?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056059/
Sean Mercer: Pockets, what are you doing?
Pockets: I'm trying to milk this goat.
Sean Mercer: Well, that's the wrong kind of a goat... that's a ram!
:lol: