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Title: South Korea to sell cache of M1 Garands!
Post by: Declaration Day on September 25, 2009, 08:51:37 AM
Oh, happy day!  I thought that large stocks of M1s had dried up and that prices would be skyrocketing over the next few years.  Looks like we'll have at least one more chance to get them at reasonable prices:

SEOUL, Korea –-(AmmoLand.com)- South Korea’s defense ministry said Wednesday it plans to raise tens of millions of dollars by selling more than 100,000 aging US-supplied rifles to gun enthusiasts in the United States.

http://www.ammoland.com/2009/09/23/south-korea-to-sell-108000-garand-rifles-to-us-gun-collectors/
Title: Re: South Korea to sell cache of M1 Garands!
Post by: Stand_watie on September 25, 2009, 09:27:56 AM
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...South Korea provided the second-largest contingent of foreign troops in South Vietnam after its close ally, the United States....

     I didn't know that. Although it makes sense.
Title: Re: South Korea to sell cache of M1 Garands!
Post by: makattak on September 25, 2009, 09:54:59 AM
The article fails abysmally.

A good news article has the 5 W's. Who, what, when, where, and why.

It got 3. Who, what, and why.

I'm sorry, but the most important two are WHEN and WHERE!!!!
Title: Re: South Korea to sell cache of M1 Garands!
Post by: brimic on September 25, 2009, 09:59:24 AM
Hopefully it won't be Mitchell's Mausers importing them :|
Title: Re: South Korea to sell cache of M1 Garands!
Post by: MechAg94 on September 25, 2009, 10:30:23 AM
Cool.  It would be nice to pick up an inexpensive one.  Even if it is beat up, it might be a good project gun.
Title: Re: South Korea to sell cache of M1 Garands!
Post by: charby on September 25, 2009, 10:34:34 AM
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Washington has approved South Korea’s plan to sell about 86,000 M1 Garand rifles and 22,000 M1 carbine rifles, together valued at 108 million dollars, the ministry said.

108,000 rifles valued at 108million equals $1000 each. Nothing cheap there.
Title: Re: South Korea to sell cache of M1 Garands!
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on September 25, 2009, 11:06:10 AM
108,000 rifles valued at 108million equals $1000 each. Nothing cheap there.

Yep.  I noticed that, too.

Definitely a retailer like Mitchell's, or maybe even Century (yech... can you imagine a Garand with their import marks on it?).  CMP won't be getting these.
Title: Re: South Korea to sell cache of M1 Garands!
Post by: Gewehr98 on September 25, 2009, 11:22:21 AM
I wouldn't get too excited.

Anybody remember the Blue Sky M1 Garands, brought back from Korea a decade or so ago?

Those things were gawd-awful, and it made the worst of the DCM/CMP Garands look unissued by comparison.
Title: Re: South Korea to sell cache of M1 Garands!
Post by: RaspberrySurprise on September 25, 2009, 11:49:41 AM
Hopefully it won't be Mitchell's Mausers importing them :|

Why is that?
Title: Re: South Korea to sell cache of M1 Garands!
Post by: Declaration Day on September 25, 2009, 01:07:15 PM
108,000 rifles valued at 108million equals $1000 each. Nothing cheap there.

True, but who assessed their value, and will they really get that much for them?  I imagine they're going to sell for whatever an importer is willing to pay.  They'd have to be pristine for the first middle man to pay that much.
Title: Re: South Korea to sell cache of M1 Garands!
Post by: MechAg94 on September 25, 2009, 01:49:55 PM
Yeah, brand new Garands are $1000.  A used one out of surplus wouldn't retail for that.  I certainly wouldn't believe any importers would pay that.
Title: Re: South Korea to sell cache of M1 Garands!
Post by: Gewehr98 on September 25, 2009, 02:00:58 PM
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Yeah, brand new Garands are $1000.

Where are you buying a brand-new Garand? 
Title: Re: South Korea to sell cache of M1 Garands!
Post by: Nick1911 on September 25, 2009, 02:10:40 PM
Where are you buying a brand-new Garand? 

Springfield Armory is making them still.  (or at least they were a few years ago)
Title: Re: South Korea to sell cache of M1 Garands!
Post by: 41magsnub on September 25, 2009, 02:18:17 PM
Springfield Armory is making them still.  (or at least they were a few years ago)

I don't think they are, there is no mention of them on the site or in their current catalog at all.
Title: Re: South Korea to sell cache of M1 Garands!
Post by: Nick1911 on September 25, 2009, 02:22:31 PM
I don't think they are, there is no mention of them on the site or in their current catalog at all.

Huh.  Well, I bought one ~2002, 2003.  It was definitely new production.
Title: Re: South Korea to sell cache of M1 Garands!
Post by: brimic on September 25, 2009, 03:03:07 PM
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Why is that?

MM is teh suxors. 
Unless you like gen-u-wine velvet lined display cases individually numbered to rifles which are individually numbered to some outlandish medal which includes a certificate of aunthenticity so that you are assured that the velvet lined case, the fake medal, and the rifle is real.
Title: Re: South Korea to sell cache of M1 Garands!
Post by: Declaration Day on September 25, 2009, 03:04:47 PM
Yes, Springfield Armory Inc. did make new production Garands for a few years.  I was stupid enough to buy one.  It was an inaccurate piece of junk that jammed frequently.  After several attempts to improve its performance, I gave up and sold it.  

I still have my original ones, though.  Still reliable and deadly accurate.  :cool:
Title: Re: South Korea to sell cache of M1 Garands!
Post by: Nick1911 on September 25, 2009, 03:07:29 PM
Yes, Springfield Armory Inc. did make new production Garands for a few years.  I was stupid enough to buy one.  It was an inaccurate piece of junk that jammed frequently.  After several attempts to improve its performance, I gave up and sold it.  

I still have my original ones, though.  Still reliable and deadly accurate.  :cool:

Huh.  Mine hasn't ever jammed.  I've been quite pleased with it.
Title: Re: South Korea to sell cache of M1 Garands!
Post by: RaspberrySurprise on September 25, 2009, 03:36:23 PM
MM is teh suxors. 
Unless you like gen-u-wine velvet lined display cases individually numbered to rifles which are individually numbered to some outlandish medal which includes a certificate of aunthenticity so that you are assured that the velvet lined case, the fake medal, and the rifle is real.

But does it come with a velvet painting of Elvis? That's the kicker right there.
Title: Re: South Korea to sell cache of M1 Garands!
Post by: red headed stranger on September 25, 2009, 04:10:50 PM
No, you only get that with the Elvis tribute 1911:

http://www.americaremembers.com/Products/ETP/ETP.asp


Title: Re: South Korea to sell cache of M1 Garands!
Post by: Gewehr98 on September 25, 2009, 04:44:47 PM
My understanding of the late-production Springfield, Inc. (Not The U.S. Springfield Armory, they shut down under MacNamara) M1 Garands is that they used cast Century (Australian) receivers mated with WWII/Korean War production USGI surplus parts and new barrels.

Not particularly a "new" M1 Garand, but pretty close.  ;)

More here:

http://www.fulton-armory.com/CAI-TI.htm
Title: Re: South Korea to sell cache of M1 Garands!
Post by: RocketMan on September 25, 2009, 04:44:56 PM
I wonder if the current administration will move to block their importation?  After all, they are EVIL ASSAULT WEAPONS!!!!111ONESZOGMZ!!11!!
Title: Re: South Korea to sell cache of M1 Garands!
Post by: HankB on September 25, 2009, 05:40:14 PM
My understanding of the late-production Springfield, Inc. (Not The U.S. Springfield Armory, they shut down under MacNamara) M1 Garands is that they used cast Century (Australian) receivers mated with WWII/Korean War production USGI surplus parts and new barrels.

Not particularly a "new" M1 Garand, but pretty close.  ;)

More here:

http://www.fulton-armory.com/CAI-TI.htm
In many of the milsurp and Garand forums, there were reports that some of the parts in the Springfield, Inc., Garands were indeed milsurp - heavily used milsurp, with the rust cleaned off and a repark.

A year or two back, I remember reading that the CMP had spoken with the Koreans about bringing back some M1s (the way they did the Greek Garands and Italian & Bavarian carbines) but ending up declining due to the poor condition of the Korean rifles.
Title: Re: South Korea to sell cache of M1 Garands!
Post by: Gewehr98 on September 25, 2009, 09:28:49 PM
Like I stated above, the previous batch of Korean bring-back M1 Garands looked like they had been used to beat-start a Jeep.  I'd take the worst-example DCM/CMP woodless M1 Garand and re-stock it over another Blue Sky type of import any day.  I even saw one Blue Sky Garand that had the muzzle counterbored almost to the depth of the gas port due to cleaning rod wear.   :O
Title: Re: South Korea to sell cache of M1 Garands!
Post by: Antibubba on September 26, 2009, 01:45:04 AM
We'll have to see how much for the carbines.  And the condition.
Title: Re: South Korea to sell cache of M1 Garands!
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 26, 2009, 09:58:18 AM
I wonder if the current administration will move to block their importation?  After all, they are EVIL ASSAULT WEAPONS!!!!111ONESZOGMZ!!11!!


Success through fail.   :lol:  But I like it better this way.  It looks like you're saying that the administration is red.   =)
Title: Re: South Korea to sell cache of M1 Garands!
Post by: RocketMan on September 26, 2009, 01:49:03 PM
fistful, you're cornfuzing me man.  Though that's not so hard to do, in truth.