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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: Monkeyleg on October 07, 2009, 06:57:38 PM
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I remember when rap music became popular, hearing it booming from cars in the parking lot of the convenience store around the corner. I consoled myself with the notion that it was another trend that would pass.
Over 25 years later, it's still here. Unlike Motown, psychedelic rock, heavy metal and other sounds, which have been subsets of larger genres, rap seems to have developed into its own genre. Also unlike other musical trends, rap songs are almost fungible, distinguished only by their lyrics, which aren't all that distinctive to begin with.
Given its mediocrity as a form of music, I can't understand its longevity.
It seems as though I ask myself the same question every year: when will rap go away?
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It is institutionalized, just like the damned Beatles are. And Phish. And Tejano.
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Given its mediocrity as a form of music, I can't understand its longevity.
Could say the same thing about McDonalds, couldn't you.
Just off the top of my head:
It's familiar,
Doesn't require effort to "enjoy"
"Everybody goes there"
It's everywhere
Part of the culture
etc...
DD
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unlike other musical trends, rap songs are almost fungible, distinguished only by their lyrics, which aren't all that distinctive to begin with.
That's only to your ear. I'd venture most rap listeners couldn't tell Johnny Cash from Porter Wagoner.
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lol. Not all rap is gangsta rap. There is a lot of good stuff out there.
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when will rap go away?
Racist.
/sorry, had to =D
When will country go away?
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Not all rap is gangsta rap.
Shai Linne (http://www.lampmode.com/contact-us/shai-linne/)
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rap songs are almost fungible
Compare:
Stuck Mojo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD-t6tcBji4)
Destiny's Child (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klggKjHXtN0)
2pac (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeMKM-eQPB4)
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I'd venture most rap listeners couldn't tell Johnny Cash from Porter Wagoner.
Which is why they have to settle for something less "demanding". =D
DD
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It seems as though I ask myself the same question every year: when will rap go away?
When something still less intelligent and more obnoxious shows up.
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I think it's actually subsided quite a bit. I still see the occasional rattletrap buzzin' out some gangsta rap. Once the norm, it's become the exception, at least whiteboy wannabes found a new direction. Give thanks to Guitar Hero, yo. Rock lives! :lol: Unfortunately, so do Jonas Bros and High School Musical XVIII and stuff. Maybe it's just a Texas (and other border state) thing, but I'm now hearing as much Tejano as I used to hear rap & hip/hop. I don't think rap will ever end, but like a lot of the terrible, electronic drum pop type crap of the 80s that is now painful to listen to, much of the rap music will be judged harshly even by its own fans when looked back upon in 10-20 years.
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I'm pleased that rap gave way to jungle-beat, drum-beat, and reggae around here. Hearing artists like Sean Kingston has really made me quite happy - here's one of his songs (NO SWEARS!!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq77pTi03qQ
Dumb video (and possibly NSFW, no nudity, but dang those are skimpy outfits), but... that's my kind of "rap".
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Which is why they have to settle for something less "demanding". =D
Not sure why, but out of all music on the planet, hearing rap instinctively makes me want to employ an EMP weapon. I can't stand it. Like, nails on the chalkboard of my soul can't stand it.
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Not sure why, but out of all music on the planet, hearing rap instinctively makes me want to employ an EMP weapon. I can't stand it. Like, nails on the chalkboard of my soul can't stand it.
I have exactly the same reaction. Exactly.
When you can hear, nay, feel the rolling boom box from 3/4 a mile away easily...
at least whiteboy wannabes found a new direction
Honestly, those tools were far more annoying than the blacks who liked to blast rap. It felt like everytime I turned around to see who the hell was playing that annoying crap, it was paler-than-me white boy in the 'hood. Usually in a shitty little primer painted Honda (still no shortage of those), cruising around the Walmart parking lot (seriously, how the f*** does cruising around Wal-freaking-mart make you cool?!)
And now I have to deal with the douchebags with popped collars and attitudes...but thank god the Hipsters haven't made too many inroads down here (yet).
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What is wrong with white people listening to wrap?
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What is wrong with white people listening to wrap?
Oops, you got a misspelling there, let me fix it:
What is wrong with white people listening to crap?
I believe the problem is not people listening to crap, it's imposing their crap on others that is objected to.
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I believe the problem is not people listening to crap, it's imposing their crap on others that is objected to.
That is the bigger issue. I really don't care what someone listens to so long as I don't have to hear it at such a level that I can't hear my evil right wing hate radio commentators.
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That is the bigger issue. I really don't care what someone listens to so long as I don't have to hear it at such a level that I can't hear my evil right wing hate radio commentators.
Same here.
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I believe the problem is not people listening to crap, it's imposing their crap on others that is objected to.
No, a lot of people clearly object to the music itself.
Also unlike other musical trends, rap songs are almost fungible, distinguished only by their lyrics, which aren't all that distinctive to begin with.
I could say the same thing about the "country" music on the radio these days. Or the R&B. Or a lot of the music on the "classical" station, which is just twentieth-century, symphonic, easy-listening drivel.
Given its mediocrity as a form of music, I can't understand its longevity.
I feel the same way about R&B and jazz. I don't know if it makes any sense to say that a form of music is "mediocre," but I'm strongly tempted. I think in your case, you just don't understand or appreciate rap. Which is fine, you don't have to like it. I think a lot of it is crappy myself. I appreciate GOOD rap, because it is has interesting lyrics, with a lot of word-play. It's also good when combined with heavy-metal guitar, jazz, violin, or in the case of Outkast, even a country-fried, blues harmonica breakdown.
But maybe I'm missing out on a lot of the same qualities in jazz or R&B.
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When something still less intelligent and more obnoxious shows up.
See Lady Gaga.... or any other pop.
While I hate the d-bags that blast it, some rap is GREAT compared to a lot of new pop. While I loathe both of them personally, eminem and kanye west are both fairly talented folks, I know I couldn't write anything that creative and/or catchy.
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Friend of mine has a fun solution. Very impressive sound system and a lot of Wagner. He *will* play opera louder than the loudest gangsta rap out there. Personally, I am glad I have never had to share a stoplight with the battle of Hip-hop v. Die Valkyrie, but it seems to be amusing for him.
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Sturgeon's law. You just never sought out the %10.
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I tried blasting some opera at the rap pricks across the street. Carl Orff gets really fricken cool at extreme decibels. Undeniably cool. The rap pricks asked me to make 'em a copy of the CD.
:|
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Sorry, freakazoid and Fistful, but these old ears can't be convinced that any rap is good. It just sounds like obscene limericks with a heavy back beat.
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I'm not trying to get you to like it. I just don't see how it's better or worse than any other form of music. I love old-school bluegrass and classic hymns that are hundreds of years old. You just have a lot of bad music in all genres, and everybody has different tastes in music.
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I've often wondered if musical tastes are by and large a generational thing.
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I've often wondered if musical tastes are by and large a generational thing.
That's certainly a big factor. Also a cultural thing, as in the difference between white rural culture, versus inner-city black culture, etc.
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And again, judging rap by what your local thugs listen to is like judging rock by N'Sync and Britney Spears cause that's whats on the radio.
Ok, so I may have just shown how out of date my pop music knowledge is there...
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I've often wondered if musical tastes are by and large a generational thing.
Most definitely, and more so in the last 50 or so years, as music, fashion and lifestyle have become more intertwined. While it's unusual to see a 20 year-old listening to The Doors, it's even more rare to see a 55 year-old dressed in baggy jeans and cockeyed baseball cap listening to 50 Cent. The 55 year-old doesn't just look out of place; he looks ridiculous.
Music and fashion give young people a way to express their newly-found (or desired) freedom from the control of their parents. Challenging social mores has also been a way to express that freedom, a byproduct of which has been hundreds of thousands of hours of horrible pop music.
Most young people will reject the music of prior generations as corny, uncool, or whatever other term you choose. One advantage of getting older is being able to sift through the music of many generations to find the real classics, songs that you miss when your young focus is on that which is being marketed to you.
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it's even more rare to see a 55 year-old dressed in baggy jeans and cockeyed baseball cap listening to 50 Cent.
Thank goodness.
One advantage of getting older is being able to sift through the music of many generations to find the real classics, songs that you miss when your young focus is on that which is being marketed to you.
No, I don't think that's true at all. I think young people may actually have an advantage there, because we're hearing a lot of classics for the first time. Or maybe at least it evens up our chances.
But plenty of kids appreciate older music. A lot of people just don't realize that old-style music is still being made, often by young musicians. I know there are still people, even young people, writing original bluegrass and country music in the old style. But most people never hear it. I can only assume that young people are crafting old-timey music in other genres, as well.
Perhaps my perspective is skewed by my being more old-fashioned (in some ways) than most older people I know. The old folks at church think they're being old-fashioned by singing hymns from 1880 or 1920. To my ears, those are pretty new-fangled, and often not as good as the hymns from the 18th or 16th centuries. I could add that I'm tired of all their talk about old-time religion, when they're really just talking about the revivalist fads of the past two centuries. It's a two-thousand-year-old religion, for cryin' out loud. But I digress.
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Maybe the reason young people reject so much older music is that it sucks? Just like most modern music.
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Feel the beat drop,
Jazz and hip-hop.. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHr4LwKUXWI)
Rebirth of Slick (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY0c2ZAeMK4)
Some naughty words in that one. The Digable Planets were interesting. Their politics were atrocious, but they're beats were smooth. =)
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I can't explain the popularity of crap-rap. I really don't understand it, and have also been attempting to ignore it for years hoping it would finally die.
I actually like certain rap 'music'. I think the art itself is extremely interesting and fun to listen to. The thing is the field seems to be so watered down. There's a handful of standout lyricists I've heard that I enjoy but they seem to be obscure. Rap is about lyrics, and most rap lyrics seem to be a waste of time, leaving what's left as horribly bad synth....something.
Paradoxically, Eminem's The Slim-Shady lp, much decried and teeth-gnashed as un-hardcore or 'too pop', not to mention hyped from controversy, is actually one of the best complete rap albums I've ever heard. Provided you like tounge-in-check psychedelic shock horror humor. That's the thing though...the record has an actual manifesto and subject matter, and skill. Deltron 3030 is good too. I also like Chali 2na from Jurrassic 5. The few sporatic outcrops of talent in a sea of *expletive deleted*it puzzle me. It's as if people haven't figured out what rap is, what makes it good, or they haven't cared, so it never took off and stagnated. It would be as someone invented the electric guitar, and nobody noticed, and you have these handful of people out there doing rock-and-roll, and it's not catching on, and nobody is noticing, or something. I just can't figure out why rap isn't better, when it seems it should be.
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oops
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Agreed - Marshall Mathers stands out among the rest as an intelligent composer, well at home with tongue-in-cheek humor more suited to the UK. =)
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Not all rap is gangsta rap.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avRuZ4QLWek
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXvBmkJft9Q
These are about the only two raps songs I like. Though I don't listen to much of it.
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Somehow I imagined you'd post that.
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Maybe the reason young people reject so much older music is that it sucks? Just like most modern music.
Many times, it's rejected because it's never been heard before, or it's been heard too many times (i.e., parents listened to it). Look on Youtube for videos with songs from Fallout 3. Those songs, FWIW, are probably older than anyone here. Read the comments. The number of people who are getting into very old music because of those tunes is surprising.
That's how Tony Bennett has made his living for the last several years - performing very old songs for people that haven't heard them before. The 'old' is 'new' because it's no longer familiar.
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lol. Not all rap is gangsta rap. There is a lot of good stuff out there.
Yup, I'm fond of The Procussions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Procussions
Lots of positive messages in their music.
I have 5 Sparrows for 2 Cents, here's the topics of a couple songs on that album:
Being a good parent (song title Little People)
Negative body images caused by model photography and retouched shots (For the Camera)
I haven't listened to the album in a while, but I don't recall any of the sex, violence, or other misogyny typically assigned to Rap.
Chris
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While it's unusual to see a 20 year-old listening to The Doors
Really? When I was in college in the early to mid 90s, The Doors were very popular. I know it's been a while, but they were one of the ubiquitous bands just about everyone liked.
Chris
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Sorry, freakazoid and Fistful, but these old ears can't be convinced that any rap is good. It just sounds like obscene limericks with a heavy back beat.
Check out The Procussions, especially their 5 Sparrows for 2 Cents album.
You might not care for "For the Camera" though, being a fashion photog. ;)
Lyrics from "Little People": http://www.metrolyrics.com/little-people-lyrics-the-procussions.html
Chris
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"Rap Music" is a contradiction in terms.
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People can listen to what they want to.
Just don't amplify it so loud that it drowns out my own car stereo several lanes away, or causes my dogs to bark from the master bedroom as you tubthump your way down my street.
That's just plain rude. One of the tubthumpers pulled alongside me at a stoplight in Sacramento once. He was visibly shaking my outside rear-view mirrors thanks to the wattage he was cranking - and wearing earplugs. :mad:
Here's a hint - if your rear license plate frame and license plate are buzzing from vibration louder than the bass coming from the subwoofers in the trunk, you're my next candidate for YouTube.
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Perhaps my perspective is skewed by my being more old-fashioned (in some ways) than most older people I know. The old folks at church think they're being old-fashioned by singing hymns from 1880 or 1920. To my ears, those are pretty new-fangled, and often not as good as the hymns from the 18th or 16th centuries. I could add that I'm tired of all their talk about old-time religion, when they're really just talking about the revivalist fads of the past two centuries. It's a two-thousand-year-old religion, for cryin' out loud. But I digress.
You are a man after my own heart, Fisty...
While it's unusual to see a 20 year-old listening to The Doors
I rest secure in the knowledge that I will never be mocked for blasting classic rock. Ever. It is above these puny musical dispoutes of my generation and stands as a pillar of excellence that frowns upon the squabbles of the Indistinct Generation.
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People can listen to what they want to.
Just don't amplify it so loud that it drowns out my own car stereo several lanes away, or causes my dogs to bark from the master bedroom as you tubthump your way down my street.
That's just plain rude. One of the tubthumpers pulled alongside me at a stoplight in Sacramento once. He was visibly shaking my outside rear-view mirrors thanks to the wattage he was cranking - and wearing earplugs. :mad:
Here's a hint - if your rear license plate frame and license plate are buzzing from vibration louder than the bass coming from the subwoofers in the trunk, you're my next candidate for YouTube.
Don't you have a Harley with straight pipes? :laugh: :P Jus' sayin...
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Fistful, I'd guess that you were in the minority when you were in your late teens or early twenties and liked older music. I think that most young people have to get through that period and then look again at the likes of Tony Bennett, Frank Sinatra, Johnny Cash, Elvis, and other musicians to realize why they were good and why they were important to the history of music.
The sixties were filled with throw-away songs that would never withstand the test of time. The ones we hear now are the ones that were good enough to last. I wonder how many rap songs will be considered classics in 25 years.
There's a certain element of "old foginess" in my comments, but not entirely. There's been a lot of music produced over the last 25 years (after I was in my 30's) that I think is exceptional, including work being done today. I can honestly say that I would hate rap today if I were a teen.
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I hope it doesn't go anywhere. I do, however, hope that 9 out of 10 artists in the genre drop off the face of the Earth.
Personally, I differentiate between rap and hip hop music. Good rap is hard to come by. Good hip hop is much easier to find, in part due to the much lower levels of violence, lower levels of glorified drug dealing, and lower levels of poor treatment of women you'll find.
It's still difficult to find real talent that, but when you find an artist you like, it's worth it.
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Fistful, I'd guess that you were in the minority when you were in your late teens or early twenties and liked older music. I think that most young people have to get through that period and then look again at the likes of Tony Bennett, Frank Sinatra, Johnny Cash, Elvis, and other musicians to realize why they were good and why they were important to the history of music.
The sixties were filled with throw-away songs that would never withstand the test of time. The ones we hear now are the ones that were good enough to last. I wonder how many rap songs will be considered classics in 25 years.
There's a certain element of "old foginess" in my comments, but not entirely. There's been a lot of music produced over the last 25 years (after I was in my 30's) that I think is exceptional, including work being done today. I can honestly say that I would hate rap today if I were a teen.
I don't know, a lot of the 'older' music is still popular with kids. Metallica, Johnny Cash, Elvis, 80's hair bands...they all seem to have active young followings. I think some music is just more long lived than others. Heck, most people still like 50's music.
A lot of it is just cultural though, rather than saying anything about the quality of the music.
I still want to know if nursing homes in 2050 are going to be filled with violent rap on one side and pounding hard rock on the other.
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Don't you have a Harley with straight pipes?
Yes.
And I don't wear earplugs or rev it up at stop lights.
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Heck, most people still like 50's music.
Probably because it's rock n' roll that they like. How many like swing music or "How Much Is That Doggie In The Window"? ;)
I still want to know if nursing homes in 2050 are going to be filled with violent rap on one side and pounding hard rock on the other.
I'll be dead by then, so it won't matter to me, but it would be interesting to see.
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Jamis, what's the difference between rap and hip-hop? As far as I know, those are just different names for the same type of music.
I used to work with a guy that had a Metallica ringtone on his phone. It would ring about fifty times in one eight-hour shift, and it would come blasting out when you least expected it. DARKNESS! IMPRISONING ME! ALL THAT I SEE! BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH! I'm not saying it's a bad song, but why would anyone want that for a ring-tone?
We worked at a place where they played oldies all day long, and we were talking about that kind of music. Basically, he thought 50's/60's music was lame, because it presented too much of an upbeat view of the world. He seemed to assume that music was only hip, if it was about depression or anger or something.
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Probably because it's rock n' roll that they like. How many like swing music or "How Much Is That Doggie In The Window"? ;)
I like swing music.
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I'm not saying it's a bad song, but why would anyone want that for a ring-tone?
For the same reason that I have that "Ring. Ring-ring. Ring-ring-ring. RING! RING-RING! RING-RING-RING! RRRIIIIINNNNGGGG. RRRRINNNNNGGGGG AAAAAUUUUUGGGGGHHH!" ringtone on my phone? :laugh:
http://www.myxertones.com/ringtone:184733/
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Yeah, Swing had a bit of a come-back in the nineties. Ska, too.
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Swing music has gone in and out of pop culture over the years, but it's always been fairly good music.
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Jamis, what's the difference between rap and hip-hop? As far as I know, those are just different names for the same type of music.
I used to work with a guy that had a Metallica ringtone on his phone. It would ring about fifty times in one eight-hour shift, and it would come blasting out when you least expected it. DARKNESS! IMPRISONING ME! ALL THAT I SEE! BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH! I'm not saying it's a bad song, but why would anyone want that for a ring-tone?
We worked at a place where they played oldies all day long, and we were talking about that kind of music. Basically, he thought 50's/60's music was lame, because it presented too much of an upbeat view of the world. He seemed to assume that music was only hip, if it was about depression or anger or something.
Lol, sounds like a happy dude.
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I was going to add that he had had a bit of a troubled past. A drunken night out with his friends ended up with one the friends dying in a car wreck. He did some prison time for his part in the debacle. I imagine if that happened to me, at a very young age, I'd have a pretty sour outlook on the world, myself.
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When will country go away?
It did around 1990...when all the "New Country" artists trashed the country music scene.... :P
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It did around 1990...when all the "New Country" artists trashed the country music scene.... :P
I don't know if that's the correct date, but you're certainly on to something there. =(
No hip-hop in this one. I hope we can all agree it is totally slammin'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWkpCaeoIpA
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This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow6MqjICfFA) is my ringtone. =D
As I am getting older I am finding that I don't mind rap and hip-hop nearly as much as I used to. Perhaps it was the search for the good stuff to show my kids the crap they hear at school isn't all there is to it...
I kinda like this one, even with the super social conscious content:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T87IFnanRPA
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>He seemed to assume that music was only hip, if it was about depression or anger or something.<
I've commented about that many times.
Up into the eighty's, almost all music was somewhat upbeat (or at least SOUNDED upbeat). Most of the popular stuff today has too much bitching about "how life sucks".
And you all missed THE biggest problem in this thread:
>Like, nails on the chalkboard of my soul can't stand it.<
When the hell did Rev get a soul?!?!?
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I thought he was a white boy. White folk ain't got soul.
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I don't tend to like rap.
However, Jedi Mind Tricks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedi_Mind_Tricks) is pretty sweet.
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Even to my untrained ear, modern "rap" is pretty much the same, and the reason the thugs like to blast it is to annoy those who aren't in the "thug" lifestyle.
They seem to have a permanent chip on their shoulders, because "the man" is keeping them down, and now they're empowered by having a Black man in the oval office.
Personally I like Foreigner myself, as they have a pretty decent array of songs, from some good old rock, to the beautiful ballads.
I have "Jukebox Hero" as a ringtone for my best friend who likes to do kareoke on the weekends, and I have "Waiting for a Girl Like You" as my wifes ringtone.
I do also have very ecclectic tastes in all forms of real music though....classical to certain types of New Age , heavier metal (not industrial stuff though like Nightwish) and a lot of 70's progressive rock (Rick Wakeman anyone?)
I'll tell you one thing that really chaps my buns though...all the current rap that has to "sample" really good songs.
The one that made me almost sick to my stomach was some rap crap that used "Hot Blooded" by Foreigner.
You call using autotune and sampling talent?
I have to disagree, I call it derivative crap
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You think "Hot blooded" is great music but dismiss rap? ;/ :lol:
Yes.
And I don't wear earplugs or rev it up at stop lights.
I know, I was just joking. I hate those damn rattle trap cars too.
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IMO the only thing worse than (C)rap is when it's fed through Auto-Tune.
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I imagine that a lot of pop singers and groups are 'fed through Auto-Tune' these days. There are some with great singing voices though. I'm more of a metal and rock fan (although I like other artists from Lou Reed to Portishead) myself.
That said, here's a nice 18 year old girl from our little Island Nation performing a cover song:
Pixie Lott - Apologize (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwvBeHbDL9Q)
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Pretty voice. Pretty face. If she hadn't gone the pop tart route, she might be worth a listen. =(
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A buddy of mine just out of high school worked for a car audio place (can't remember off hand which one). They had built a "show car" that was a pickup truck. The bed was put on a hydraulic lift, and could be raised up, revealing quite an array of speakers, including 6 (3x2) 12" speakers. The bed was literally filled with amps, batteries, and capacitors. The whole bed would actually lift up, and could be rotated and tilted to "aim" the speakers. He pulled up next to a guy in a parking lot that was blasting some really annoying song (some one hit wonder rap artist that really should just have stuck to flipping burgers or something). He parks next to this guy, and he's sitting there, zoned out to the world. Until my buddy has lifted up the bed and pointed the speakers at this guy's rattle trap. And started blasting Wagner's "Ride of the Valkryies". At about 120dB...
For some reason the little rattle trap decided it'd be better to go find somewhere else to park....
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That said, here's a nice 18 year old girl from our little Island Nation performing a cover song:
Pixie Lott - Apologize (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwvBeHbDL9Q)
Cute girl....great voice....why don't y'all feed your singers?.... =D
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Yeah, she probably wouldn't look so angst-ridden were she given a cheeseburger every now and then. =D
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I imagine that a lot of pop singers and groups are 'fed through Auto-Tune' these days.
From articles I've read, the vast majority of artists from all genres are fed through Auto-tune for their recordings, with some few exceptions. One article I read quoted a sound engineer with something to the effect that it's just generally assumed the sound guy will pipe them through a light pass of Autotune to clean up any bits of pitchiness.
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How about some of the lovely Irish Chloë Agnew then? Voluptuous figure, great voice.
Chloë Agnew sings ''Panis Angelicus'' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzTjY79nGRE)
Check out the group she is in called Celtic Woman, if you don't already know them.
Celtic Woman - A New Journey - You Raise Me Up (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faKFcfytlxU)
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Also by the same woman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEcCGN7diwU)
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How about some of the lovely Irish Chloë Agnew then? Voluptuous figure, great voice.
Chloë Agnew sings ''Panis Angelicus'' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzTjY79nGRE)
Check out the group she is in called Celtic Woman, if you don't already know them.
Celtic Woman - A New Journey - You Raise Me Up (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faKFcfytlxU)
Not really my cup of tea most of the time. This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvLAC0Z7z8s) is my favorite Irish woman singer at the moment. The video scares my kids, though...
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I used to work with a guy that had a Metallica ringtone on his phone. It would ring about fifty times in one eight-hour shift, and it would come blasting out when you least expected it. DARKNESS! IMPRISONING ME! ALL THAT I SEE! BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH!
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Is that Trujillo shopping with Hetfield? "Welcome to Metallica, let's hit Armani!" :lol:
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ROFL, never seen that before
Not really my cup of tea most of the time. This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvLAC0Z7z8s) is my favorite Irish woman singer at the moment. The video scares my kids, though...
Huh, I like that Moloko song, visuals are strange, but neat!
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Is that Trujillo shopping with Hetfield? "Welcome to Metallica, let's hit Armani!" :lol:
Yup. That's why I love Metallica. They're so hardcore . . .
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<SRG> Metallica sold out in 45 mins :/
<NotOneOfUs> Yeah I know.
<NotOneOfUs> Oh wait
<NotOneOfUs> You mean, like, a concert?
<SRG> yes
:laugh:
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If im going to listen to silly pop music (sometimes its appropriate as background music, after all), I listen to silly pop music from other countries. When it comes to poppy dance music and rap, you either cant understand the lyrics or they are so asinine that it doesnt matter if you dont speak the language.
As background music, silly Korean pop is 10x better/catchier than America equivalent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7mPqycQ0tQ
As background music, Japanese rap is 10x better than American rap.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rtp5zELICHw
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I think most young people like classic rock. I know that is what I usually listen to probably 90% of the time when I'm in the car. Although I did grow up listening to it because of my dad, stuff like the Moody Blues, ELP, Led Zepplin, but I also listen to other things like swing, big band, jazz, ska, 80s, country, bluegrass, rockabilly, psychobilly, classical, 50s, etc, etc.
One thing I found interesting is when watching an episode of the Twilight zone. I don't remember what the episode was about just this scene. In it this young kid is listening to some fast jazz and this old man gripes about it and turnes it to an older station that plays a slower style of jazz. I started laughing when I saw that because that is really the same stuff we see happening now with music and the older generation. I wonder what new music will come out in the future when I'm some grandpa and the kids play what is popular.
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As background music, silly Korean pop is 10x better/catchier than America equivalent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7mPqycQ0tQ
In what kind of situation would you want that as background music? ???
But I like foreign pop sometimes myself.
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I think most young people like classic rock.
I guess I'm young by this forum's demographic (27). I. Can't. Stand. 99%. Of. Classic. Rock. I Refuse to listen to the radio cause there is No good station here in the Raleigh area. The only rock station in the area mixes that classic crap in with new s**t. I don't even think the antenna is hooked up to the headunit in my truck.
Last time I was at my parents house (near the coast of NC) I was amazed to hear Pantera on the radio. [Pantera is the first band I ever saw live, I was 12.]
Oh yeah, I listen to some rap.
Pantera still sounds better on the 12" getting 600 watts in the truck or the two 15"s getting 660 watts each in the house.
I guess I'm going on a rant now but what irritates me more than hearing rap out of some vehicle is hearing s**t highs. I don't care if your bass hits if I can hear your highs clipping across the parking lot. Here's a clue- the only thing anyone should be using out of their stock radio is the hot on ignition wire. Do Not use the amp in your headunit.
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RAP: On the Eve of War: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjOn-j5Rac4
NOT RAP: Thursday: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8paDhfGQH4E
My only requirement for background music is that it can't have a large dynamic range.
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Rap has ended for me.
It started with the "club rap" and now its this really stupid combination of Pop and Club Hip Hop...
"Shorty just text me, says she want to sex me
LOL smiley face, LOL smiley face
Shorty sent a twitpic saying come and get this,
LOL smiley face, LOL smiley face"
Somebody Kill me if I have to hear that stupid song one more time... ON TOP OF THAT!
Miley Cyrus -
why is having an immature little-girl sound quality the it thing for pop stars??? Combine that with irritating lyrics and a one octave range, and you have the musical equivalent of eating at McDonald's every night.
Party in the USA... "moving my hips like yeah" BLECH....
I don't even turn on the radio anymore just Talk stations no more "rap"
Sorry Rant off....
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Rap did not start in clubs.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gmq6mFAEqNQ
/mine is an evil laugh
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hmmm... i have a few rap/r&b songs on my Ipod. some TLC, Outkast, Ludicris and nelly. most of its stuff i have corisponding memories. TLC was a favorite when i was younger, and the other newer stuff was playing at the clubs when i did that thing.
i dislike Gangsta rap more because of the message invloved in most cases then anything. i mean, do you really think its a good thing to listin to someone bragging about 'bustin a cap in that n-word" ? personally i think thats pretty gross.
there are some good rap songs out there, some funny ones, songs with neat lyrics and good messages. the rest though, blah.
also, i'm 25. my bf in HS was obsessed with Cream. I listined to the ramones, x-ray spex and the dickies. i know classic rock, 80's/90's rock alt and 70's glitter and prog, better then i know whats on the radio now. my dad listins to more new rock then i do.
i think people who dont' really care to much about music tend to listin to one or two genres (usually the ones they grew up with) and those of us who HAVE to have something to listin to like myself listin to a lot of it from all periods and genres.
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Also, the only rap piece I like (because it's more an exercise in technique and creativity than anything else):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvPnM2Q1nwU (Warning: one instance of the "N-word")
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As I've always said the "C" in Rap is silent.
=D =D
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Rap did not start in clubs.
I was trying (unsucessfully) to say that the begining of the end of rap music started with as I call
it club rap.
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Still not an official fan of rap, but these are actually pretty good (on all levels): =)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMbYOkU7LyI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A0BmbiM53Q
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I've listened to quite a few foreign bands and singers and find myself listening mostly to J-pop and a little J-rock lately.
J-pop and J-rock is different from American pop and rock because most of its roots are from Blues the like.
I haven't been much into Korean music, but I have to say that I like Wonder Girls more than Girls Generation.
But neither are on my playlist.
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As background music, Japanese rap is 10x better than American rap.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rtp5zELICHw
This is Orange Range, I like this band. They have a couple of good songs.
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Rap has still not ended.
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No, but this thread has.
Chris