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Title: We're Going To Let You Die
Post by: MicroBalrog on October 17, 2009, 05:45:58 AM: Here's an Obama advisor saying just that. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT7Y0TOBuG4)

The applause at the end is probably most sickening.
Title: Re: We're Going To Let You Die
Post by: Fly320s on October 17, 2009, 08:21:03 AM: That's what happens when people demand that someone else take care of them. And I'm fine with that.

I.e: If Micro demands that I pay for his medical bills, then I get a voice in his care. If Micro doesn't want my advice, he shouldn't demand my money. No offense to you, Micro, you're just my example.

I bet that the general public that is in favor of ObamaCare doesn't realize what they are asking.
Title: Re: We're Going To Let You Die
Post by: MicroBalrog on October 17, 2009, 08:56:25 AM: Piper. Tune.
Title: Re: We're Going To Let You Die
Post by: Fly320s on October 17, 2009, 09:36:58 AM: Quote from: MicroBalrog on October 17, 2009, 08:56:25 AM
Piper. Tune.
succinct.
Title: Re: We're Going To Let You Die
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 17, 2009, 10:00:29 AM: Quote from: Fly320s on October 17, 2009, 09:36:58 AM
succinct.

Brevity. Wit.
Title: Re: We're Going To Let You Die
Post by: S. Williamson on October 17, 2009, 07:00:08 PM: Quote from: fistful on October 17, 2009, 10:00:29 AM
Brevity. Wit.
Purity.
Title: Re: We're Going To Let You Die
Post by: Bigjake on October 17, 2009, 08:01:43 PM: Only on APS.. Really cool.
Title: Re: We're Going To Let You Die
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 17, 2009, 08:40:53 PM: Quote from: Dionysusigma on October 17, 2009, 07:00:08 PM
Purity.

Huh.
Title: Re: We're Going To Let You Die
Post by: nraforlife on October 18, 2009, 10:24:24 AM: Problem here that folks are missing- You will be complelled to put your money into a common pool to be spent as RR type people deem fit. If RR & his buds decide you are not worth keeping around you will NOT be allowed to spend your own remaining resources if any on meds.
Title: Re: We're Going To Let You Die
Post by: Strings on October 18, 2009, 12:57:24 PM: "RR"???
Title: Re: We're Going To Let You Die
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on October 18, 2009, 01:25:59 PM: Robert Redford? Ronald Reagan? Rachael Ray?
Title: Re: We're Going To Let You Die
Post by: Sergeant Bob on October 18, 2009, 03:01:35 PM: Quote from: Strings on October 18, 2009, 12:57:24 PM
"RR"???
Quote from: AZRedhawk44 on October 18, 2009, 01:25:59 PM
Robert Redford? Ronald Reagan? Rachael Ray?

I do believe he is alluding to the subject of the video linked in the OP,
Robert C. ReissssssssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhCHA!!!!!!
Title: Re: We're Going To Let You Die
Post by: MillCreek on October 18, 2009, 03:09:41 PM: I do hope that Rachel Ray will let me spend my money on 'sammies'.
Title: Re: We're Going To Let You Die
Post by: S. Williamson on October 18, 2009, 05:08:33 PM: Quote from: fistful on October 17, 2009, 08:40:53 PM
Huh.
Yes.
Title: Re: We're Going To Let You Die
Post by: nraforlife on October 18, 2009, 05:39:24 PM: Quote from: Strings on October 18, 2009, 12:57:24 PM
"RR"???

Robert Reich
Title: Re: We're Going To Let You Die
Post by: seeker_two on October 19, 2009, 06:20:45 AM: Quote from: MillCreek on October 18, 2009, 03:09:41 PM
I do hope that Rachel Ray will let me spend my money on 'sammies'.

Hmmmm...Rachel Ray with sammies....

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.businesspundit.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F01%2Frachelray.png&hash=aa75218d69aad6b6967f6c0a9a4632a93cf033a4)

http://www.businesspundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/rachelray.png (http://www.businesspundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/rachelray.png)

Maybe Obama-care will allow her to do my cardiac stress test.... =D
Title: Re: We're Going To Let You Die
Post by: Strings on October 19, 2009, 09:58:54 AM: Seeker, wake up... yer drooling again!
Title: Re: We're Going To Let You Die
Post by: Racehorse on October 19, 2009, 10:41:07 AM: Quote from: seeker_two on October 19, 2009, 06:20:45 AM
Hmmmm...Rachel Ray with sammies....

Maybe Obama-care will allow her to do my cardiac stress test.... =D

Maybe I'm odd, but I find that picture unflattering at best and kind of disturbing. It's sexy to wash dishes with your feet now? Now if she were cleaning a toilet, that would be different... =D
Title: Re: We're Going To Let You Die
Post by: Headless Thompson Gunner on October 19, 2009, 12:44:42 PM: I don't think that's a photo about washing dishes.

;)
Title: Re: We're Going To Let You Die
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 19, 2009, 06:42:01 PM: Quote from: Racehorse on October 19, 2009, 10:41:07 AM
Maybe I'm odd, but I find that picture unflattering at best and kind of disturbing. It's sexy to wash dishes with your feet now? Now if she were cleaning a toilet, that would be different... =D

You fail at pron.
Title: Re: We're Going To Let You Die
Post by: Balog on October 19, 2009, 07:01:20 PM: Quote from: fistful on October 19, 2009, 06:42:01 PM
You fail at pron.

If you consider that pron you're failing pretty hard yerself. :P ;)
Title: Re: We're Going To Let You Die
Post by: seeker_two on October 19, 2009, 07:11:05 PM: Quote from: fistful on October 19, 2009, 06:42:01 PM
You fail at pron.

Hmmmmm....Rachael Ray pron.... :P

Warning: Not Safe for the Cornfield...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4lYMFiwABI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4lYMFiwABI)
Title: Re: We're Going To Let You Die
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 20, 2009, 07:02:58 AM: Quote from: Balog on October 19, 2009, 07:01:20 PM
If you consider that pron you're failing pretty hard yerself. :P ;)

Perhaps it doesn't meet the legal definition, no.
Title: Re: We're Going To Let You Die
Post by: MechAg94 on October 20, 2009, 11:21:45 AM: Quote from: Racehorse on October 19, 2009, 10:41:07 AM
Maybe I'm odd, but I find that picture unflattering at best and kind of disturbing. It's sexy to wash dishes with your feet now? Now if she were cleaning a toilet, that would be different... =D
Okay, I can honestly say I didn't notice the sink until you mentioned it. :)
Title: Re: We're Going To Let You Die
Post by: MicroBalrog on October 20, 2009, 01:40:26 PM: Quote from: fistful on October 20, 2009, 07:02:58 AM
Perhaps it doesn't meet the legal definition, no.

This is at best mild pinup-grade erotica. This sort of thing is referred to on TVtropes as 'surrogate porn', I think. :D
Title: Re: We're Going To Let You Die
Post by: Balog on October 20, 2009, 02:19:12 PM: I'm not sure where you're going here fisty. Are you saying any flattering picture of an attractive woman is porn? I've only seen that attitude in the sects that require women to wear long high neck dresses, no makeup, no jewelry, and (depending on the group) a bonnet or head scarf. I'm mostly certain you're not a part of such a group, tho perhaps I am mistaken.

Words have meanings, including "pornography." That does not the fit meaning of the word, let alone any legal definition. Sloppy word usage is never a good thing.
Title: Re: We're Going To Let You Die
Post by: mtnbkr on October 20, 2009, 02:25:14 PM: Quote from: Balog on October 20, 2009, 02:19:12 PM
Sloppy word usage is never a good thing.

Assault weapon

Chris
Title: Re: We're Going To Let You Die
Post by: grey54956 on October 20, 2009, 02:48:02 PM: Guys, enough with the Rachel Ray porn or erotica discussion, please. Either that, or mods, please lock this thread.

I am more interested in the original subject, thank you.
Title: Re: We're Going To Let You Die
Post by: Strings on October 20, 2009, 02:50:25 PM: okies.

Can we just let Fistful die then?
Title: Re: We're Going To Let You Die
Post by: Racehorse on October 20, 2009, 02:54:23 PM: Wow, all I was trying to say is that I don't find feet in a sink while holding a collander to be sexy at all. But that may be because I find Rachel Ray very annoying in general.

For the record, I do understand that the sink is not the point of the picture. I just happen to find the pose and accoutrements counterproductive to the obvious goal of the picture.

Back on topic, the obvious end result of rationing health care is deciding who lives and who you let die. The only thing that surprises me about the OP is how honest and upfront it is.
Title: Re: We're Going To Let You Die
Post by: Balog on October 20, 2009, 03:07:56 PM: Quote from: grey54956 on October 20, 2009, 02:48:02 PM
Guys, enough with the Rachel Ray porn or erotica discussion, please. Either that, or mods, please lock this thread.

I am more interested in the original subject, thank you.

Are you really whining and asking for a lock because of thread drift? On APS?!?!?! You must be new... :lol: =D
Title: Re: We're Going To Let You Die
Post by: makattak on October 20, 2009, 03:08:20 PM: Quote from: Racehorse on October 20, 2009, 02:54:23 PM
Back on topic, the obvious end result of rationing health care is deciding who lives and who you let die. The only thing that surprises me about the OP is how honest and upfront it is.

That's why I don't argue with socialized medicine supporters that it is impossible for them to cut costs.

I know very well they can. I just want them to admit that this is how it will happen. (Not, "cut corruption and waste!!!!1111" Yeah, the government is good at that...)

Every now and then you find an honest one.
Title: Re: We're Going To Let You Die
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 20, 2009, 05:09:45 PM: Quote from: Balog on October 20, 2009, 02:19:12 PM
I'm not sure where you're going here fisty.
I was just ridiculing the Racehorse for over-thinking things. You're the one who wants to quibble over definitions.

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Are you saying any flattering picture of an attractive woman is porn?

No, just the ones where they're frolicking in a sink, half-naked.

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Words have meanings, including "pornography." That does not the fit meaning of the word...

Of course it does. Next you're going to tell me that Maxim is not a pornographic magazine.
Title: Re: We're Going To Let You Die
Post by: grey54956 on October 20, 2009, 06:59:30 PM: I'm not new to APS, I just think that if we are going to have a discussion about what defines porn versus kitchen themed erotica, we should do so in its own thread...
Title: Re: We're Going To Let You Die
Post by: MicroBalrog on October 20, 2009, 07:02:20 PM: Quote
Of course it does. Next you're going to tell me that Maxim is not a pornographic magazine.

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.acepilots.com%2Fplanes%2Fnose_art%2Fred_headed_woman.jpg&hash=b5c1a72dd81efa7692c4cef65e14c8eb718d8f6b)
Title: Re: We're Going To Let You Die
Post by: cosine on October 20, 2009, 07:06:07 PM: Bring this thread back on track.
Title: Re: We're Going To Let You Die
Post by: seeker_two on October 21, 2009, 06:15:18 AM: Quote from: grey54956 on October 20, 2009, 02:48:02 PM
Guys, enough with the Rachel Ray porn or erotica discussion, please. Either that, or mods, please lock this thread.

I am more interested in the original subject, thank you.

If you're the type that wants to stay on track in the threads you read, you definitely came to the wrong side of the Internet.... :laugh:

Quote from: cosine on October 20, 2009, 07:06:07 PM
Bring this thread back on track.

OK....back to the OP....I don't think the intent of socialized medicine is to urge people to die.....just like the intent of drunk driving is not to plow into a minivan filled with a pre-schoolsoccer team....it's just a likely outcome of the plan....

...besides, if everyone dies, who's gonna buy all the spoonulas?.....
Title: Re: We're Going To Let You Die
Post by: Headless Thompson Gunner on October 21, 2009, 12:12:58 PM: Quote from: seeker_two on October 21, 2009, 06:15:18 AM

OK....back to the OP....I don't think the intent of socialized medicine is to urge people to die.....just like the intent of drunk driving is not to plow into a minivan filled with a pre-schoolsoccer team....it's just a likely outcome of the plan....

Bad analogy. With the drunkl driving scenario, there's at least a chance of getting home without causing a disaster. With socialized medicine, there's no chance.