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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: 280plus on January 24, 2010, 03:10:32 PM
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here's a landing for you :O
from a friend:
Read the article first then watch the video.
For those who want to fly to London City Airport, a cross wind adds to
The excitement (in addition to the short runway and steep approach).
The airport itself is located on the river Thames in downtown London ,
And gives business people very quick access to the city. The
Millennium Dome is in the left side of the picture."
"The runway is only 1199 meters long, which is very short in airline
Runway terms, thus it is only suitable for aircraft with good STOL
(short take-off and landing) performance. It also has a 5.5 degree
Glide slope, as opposed to the conventional 3 degree slope to most
Runways. The BAE 146 is the main jet type to operate into the place.
Most other aircraft are turbo props etc."
"When doing the approach you have to be fully configured, I.e., gear
Down, full flaps and speed brakes before you commence descent from
3000 feet...or you won't get stopped before reaching the far end of
The runway. If it doesn't look or feel right it is generally a good
Idea to give it away and have another attempt. For whatever reason,
This flight crew decided to press, but they DID make the first turn
Off the runway. If nothing else, it's a testament to the toughness of
The BAE 146 airframe. The pilots handled it like a dirt bike!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT2C9QcgYjA
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"If nothing else, it's a testament to the toughness dedication of
the BAE 146 airframe their mechanics. The pilots handled treated
it like a dirt bike! Top Gear loons with an Isetta."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT2C9QcgYjA
:angel:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvKsjq1DG6c
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Jiminy Christmas! Do their seats have any fabric left or has it all been torn a way and carried off, clenched in the butt cheeks of the passengers?
Brad
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I think I would have bricked it, were I on board!
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"Did we land or were we shot down ?"
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If nothing else, it's a testament to the toughness of
The BAE 146 airframe. The pilots handled it like a dirt bike!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT2C9QcgYjA
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Those poor, poor mechanics. Gods alone know how many hours they're gonna have to spend getting that airframe fixed.
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Those poor, poor mechanics. Gods alone know how many hours they're gonna have to spend getting that airframe fixed.
THANK YOU! :P
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tE_5eiYn0D0&NR=1&feature=fvwp
This is a computer reenactment of the Hudson river landing.
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Here are a few more on Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClsLR29p1vg&feature=fvw)
A Boeing 747 being "enlightened" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IRfbC0RHsY&feature=related) on takeoff.
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THANK YOU! :P
Oy, *I* am paid to support you guys. You happy = Me slightly less angry and pissed off.
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Any landing you can walk away from, I guess.
Wow.
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Ouch!
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Speaking of A320 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxDVq2gGgaA&feature=related
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That's it, no more flying for me... :O
:lol:
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Speaking of A320 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxDVq2gGgaA&feature=related
Ahem. Main gear that crabs for crosswind landings.
Courtesy of Boeing, circa 1958. =D
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[start smug] Today in Boston, the wind was from 180 (South) at 25 gusting to 40 knots. I rolled-on the landing on 22R. Yeah, baby! [/horn tooting]
=D
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Ok, let me get this straight,,, WHAT did you do? ???
=D
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[start smug] Today in Boston, the wind was from 180 (South) at 25 gusting to 40 knots. I rolled-on the landing on 22R. Yeah, baby! [/horn tooting]
=D
Runway designations are in the direction they point, dropping the last digit. So 22R points within 10 degrees to heading 220, which is basically southwest. He probably crabbed/sideslipped (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crosswind_landing#Sideslip) a bit to keep straight while landing.
I'm only a wannabe pilot so far, I have not completed all my hours due to life constantly requiring the money I keep saving up to try and finish.
Let me submit my favorite crosswind landing attempt in an Airbus A320: http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/010054.html
Hey, A320, have you ever had to abort a hairy landing like that? How common is it for commercial pilots to abort a landing like that?
I know I've only done a crosswind landing successfully once, for whatever that's worth.
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Sad part is, now he has to go around and try it again! :O
So what do you guys do, straighten it out just before you hit the runway?
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Sad part is, now he has to go around and try it again! :O
So what do you guys do, straighten it out just before you hit the runway?
A good pilot will actually straighten the aircraft out as the upwind wheel touches down. Awesome feat of timing.
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...and sphincter control! =D
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Sad part is, now he has to go around and try it again! :O
So what do you guys do, straighten it out just before you hit the runway?
A) Better to go around and try again if you have the chance. I've aborted many a landing because it just wasn't "right".
B) Yes. Although some aircraft, particularly airliners, have crosswind capable landing gear that will point straight down the runway while the plane lands in a crab. Freaky looking, but cool.
If you are prepared and have everything set up well, a crosswind landing is not as bad as they are made out to be (but gusting is still a bit tricky). If your *expletive deleted*it ain't straight and you are in a hurry or behind the airplane, then that crosswind is going to bite you in the ass.
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Ok, let me get this straight,,, WHAT did you do? ???
=D
I made a nice, soft landing in semi-tough conditions. "Rolled it on," means I landed so gently that the only way I could tell we touched down was by feeling the wheel spin-up as it "grabs" the pavement. Then the spoilers deploy and we settle fully onto the gear.
Think of it as shooting a 295 score in bad lighting with a borrowed pistol.
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A greaser. =D
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Nitrogen,
I've never had to abort a landing. It doesn't happen very often in the airline world because we normally don't push our skills that far. We usually have the option to land on a more appropriate runway or at another airport rather than having to land in really nasty conditions. My landing yesterday wasn't dicey at all. It was just fun because we normally have straightforward, boring landings, which is the way we like it.
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Nitrogen,
I've never had to abort a landing. It doesn't happen very often in the airline world because we normally don't push our skills that far. We usually have the option to land on a more appropriate runway or at another airport rather than having to land in really nasty conditions. My landing yesterday wasn't dicey at all. It was just fun because we normally have straightforward, boring landings, which is the way we like it.
What he said. As a general rule, commercial pilots know before they touch pavement if they won't be able to make the landing, and will take the go around before that happens.
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Thanks for the input guys, very interesting. =)