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Title: 'Iran will deliver telling blow to global powers on Feb. 11'
Post by: Hutch on February 01, 2010, 07:32:44 AM
Story at http://www.presstv.ir/detail/117545.htm?sectionid=351020101

Reckon what that's all about?  My guess would be a long-range missile test, or (unlikely) uncork some bottled sunshine in a demonstration test, a'la PDRK or Pakistan.  D'ye think it will have an immediate impact here?

Title: Re: 'Iran will deliver telling blow to global powers on Feb. 11'
Post by: brimic on February 01, 2010, 07:42:15 AM
It will just mean our man-child in chief will give Ahmadinejad more verbal fellatio.
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Post by: Waitone on February 01, 2010, 05:29:49 PM
"I'll huff and I'll puff and I'll blooooowwww your house down."  Happens every year about this time.
Title: Re: 'Iran will deliver telling blow to global powers on Feb. 11'
Post by: slingshot on February 01, 2010, 07:06:21 PM
Iran likes to make little threats.  Iraaq did the same thing, but Sadamn got called on his.  One day, Iran won't have to make threats as they will have the nuclear capability and destabilize the entire Middle East.  Maybe BHO can talk them out of whatever it is.
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Post by: French G. on February 01, 2010, 07:11:36 PM
Patiently I wait for the day when we see our SSGNs get into action. Don't put me in charge, they'd all be within 500 miles of there. Surprise!
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Post by: RocketMan on February 01, 2010, 11:44:08 PM
I'm betting they hang some more protestors.  A group this time, instead of an individual.
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Post by: Monkeyleg on February 01, 2010, 11:56:31 PM
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Ahmadinejad said that in the three decades of its history, the Islamic Revolution had inspired some great developments in the world.

Yeah, those decapitations on the internet are a milestone in history. Next step for Ahmadinejad: the wheel.
Title: Re: 'Iran will deliver telling blow to global powers on Feb. 11'
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 02, 2010, 01:58:40 AM
"I'll huff and I'll puff and I'll blooooowwww your house down."  Happens every year about this time.


They get all wee-weed up? 
Title: Re: 'Iran will deliver telling blow to global powers on Feb. 11'
Post by: Standing Wolf on February 02, 2010, 07:54:26 PM
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They get all wee-weed up?

Okay. I give up. What does "wee-weed up" mean?
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Post by: 41magsnub on February 02, 2010, 08:07:32 PM
peeing into the wind?
Title: Re: 'Iran will deliver telling blow to global powers on Feb. 11'
Post by: Jamisjockey on February 04, 2010, 07:44:05 AM
Hardly a mention on the news....I know its not the 11th yet....
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,584660,00.html

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Iran successfully launched a research rocket into outer space carrying a mouse, two turtles and worms Wednesday, but failed to put anything into orbit, two U.S. officials tell Fox News. Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad described the launch as a "very big event" and said it shows Iran can compete with the West in a battle of science and technology.

I've got a buck that says nuke test on the 11th. 
Title: Re: 'Iran will deliver telling blow to global powers on Feb. 11'
Post by: HankB on February 04, 2010, 09:15:13 AM
I've got a buck that says nuke test on the 11th.
Can our seismographs tell the difference between detonation of a real nuke and a cavern filled with a couple of thousand tons of conventional explosives?

I seem to recall seeing a TV show about open pit mining somewhere out west where that became an issue - the company was asked to NOT set off their daisy chains of charges simultaneously, but rather in a "ripple" pattern (slight delay between adjacent rows of explosive) so the Russkies could see it wan't a nuke test.
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Post by: Standing Wolf on February 04, 2010, 09:41:54 AM
Well, heck. We're a well to do country, right. Seems to me if Iran wants a nuclear bomb, we ought to dig a little deeper into Uncle Pork's pockets and give them one.

By the way, I have good news to share with everyone: I created or saved 1,000 push-ups and 500 sit-ups bright and early this morning.
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Post by: Balog on February 04, 2010, 10:53:31 AM
Okay. I give up. What does "wee-weed up" mean?

Something silly Dear Leader said once.

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said it shows Iran can compete with the West in a battle of science and technology goat herding.

FTFY
Title: Re: 'Iran will deliver telling blow to global powers on Feb. 11'
Post by: Headless Thompson Gunner on February 04, 2010, 12:18:26 PM
Hardly a mention on the news....I know its not the 11th yet....
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,584660,00.html

I've got a buck that says nuke test on the 11th. 
Yup, the ability for Iran to launch objects into space combined with the ability to build nuclear bombs is a Very Bad Thing.
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Post by: Jamisjockey on February 04, 2010, 01:02:30 PM
Yup, the ability for Iran to launch objects into space combined with the ability to build nuclear bombs is a Very Bad Thing.

What I was thinking, plus:

Had Iran tested a nuke first, Isreal would probably deliver a large case of whoopass upon anything and everything that they can bomb.  However, by putting first the technology to launch the nuke, then test the nuke, they make it seem that they can deliver said bomb.  Whether they are ready to actually deploy such a weapon, who knows.  Feb 11th actually might be interesting
 [popcorn]
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Post by: lupinus on February 04, 2010, 04:50:14 PM
I'm thinking either more advanced missile test or full blown nuke test. I remember a report the other day we were moving more ships into the gulf with anti-missile capability. Not sure if that is routine, caution over the announcement, or if intel shows something relevant that the rest of us do not know.

I agree that doing the missile test first would be good strategy. A nuke doesn't do much good if you can't deliver it, and launching a missile shows they can deliver it. May not have been big but I would guess big enough lob as least a small nuke Israels way.
Title: Re: 'Iran will deliver telling blow to global powers on Feb. 11'
Post by: drewtam on February 10, 2010, 11:13:10 PM
(In 2009 dollars...)
1945 USA had a GDP of 200 Billion.
2009 Iran had a GDP of 850 Billion.

1945 USA had a pop of 132 Million.
2009 Iran has a pop of 66 Million.

The point:
We might make fun of them as a backwards nation. But it doesn't take very advanced science to make a nuke. Besides, the science is already settled, and that makes the development a lot easier.
Title: Re: 'Iran will deliver telling blow to global powers on Feb. 11'
Post by: MicroBalrog on February 11, 2010, 06:56:45 AM
And yet so far - no nuke. (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3847636,00.html)
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Post by: Bruce H on February 11, 2010, 08:41:21 AM
Aren't the taking credit for all the snow that shut down DC.
Title: Re: 'Iran will deliver telling blow to global powers on Feb. 11'
Post by: Nick1911 on February 11, 2010, 09:02:31 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1250127/Iran-Revolution-day-protests-Islamic-Republic-nuclear-state.html

Seems they are claiming that they have the kit to enrich uranium to weapons grade.
Title: Re: 'Iran will deliver telling blow to global powers on Feb. 11'
Post by: alex_trebek on February 11, 2010, 09:49:35 AM
That can't be. They just want to build a nuclear reactor to better serve their people. In the past the Iranian government has shown how they care about the plight of it's citizens.
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Post by: MicroBalrog on February 11, 2010, 09:55:10 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1250127/Iran-Revolution-day-protests-Islamic-Republic-nuclear-state.html

Seems they are claiming that they have the kit to enrich uranium to weapons grade.


"Claiming" is the operative term. If they could, they'd be doing it.
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Post by: Gewehr98 on February 11, 2010, 09:57:02 AM
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Can our seismographs tell the difference between detonation of a real nuke and a cavern filled with a couple of thousand tons of conventional explosives?

Yes.

Most visible in the P-wave amplitude.  
Title: Re: 'Iran will deliver telling blow to global powers on Feb. 11'
Post by: Nick1911 on February 11, 2010, 10:54:59 AM

"Claiming" is the operative term. If they could, they'd be doing it.

What advantage do they gain by making the claim without being able to actually do it?
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Post by: dogmush on February 11, 2010, 12:34:00 PM
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What advantage do they gain by making the claim without being able to actually do it?

We'll give them stuff to bribe them not to.

I'm pretty sure that's how North Korea makes most of it's income.
Title: Re: 'Iran will deliver telling blow to global powers on Feb. 11'
Post by: lupinus on February 11, 2010, 02:25:13 PM

"Claiming" is the operative term. If they could, they'd be doing it.
You seem to be assuming they aren't.
Title: Re: 'Iran will deliver telling blow to global powers on Feb. 11'
Post by: CNYCacher on February 12, 2010, 07:34:04 AM
Yes.

Most visible in the P-wave amplitude.  

Thanks a bunch.  I have a feeling you have just ruined a perfectly good sick day whereby I shall now spend most of the morning 5 tabs deep in wikipedia.
Title: Re: 'Iran will deliver telling blow to global powers on Feb. 11'
Post by: Gewehr98 on February 12, 2010, 04:31:22 PM
Just be glad that the folks in the Seismic Shop don't alert you to a sortie you're flying in a few hours based on those damned P-Waves. 

Turns out you are responsible for the first 30 seconds of whatever you say when woken from a dead sleep in the middle of the night...  ;)
Title: Re: 'Iran will deliver telling blow to global powers on Feb. 11'
Post by: MicroBalrog on February 12, 2010, 05:58:04 PM
What advantage do they gain by making the claim without being able to actually do it?

The same advantage the Soviet Union gained from faking the Bomber Gap.