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Title: Any nukyoolar corpsemen here?
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on February 04, 2010, 01:52:25 PM
The libs picked on Bush for his pronunciation of "nuclear" as "nukyoolar."

Obama, twice in a speech recently, referred to a navy corpsman as "corpse-man." 

The sailor was recuperating on a hospital ship after suffering wounds in the line of duty.

Yep.  An injured sailor.  A corpse-man.
Title: Re: Any nukyoolar corpsemen here?
Post by: freakazoid on February 04, 2010, 02:01:41 PM
Pics or it didn't happen,  =)
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Post by: brimic on February 04, 2010, 02:03:46 PM
CORPSE-MAN = ZOMBIE?
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Post by: AZRedhawk44 on February 04, 2010, 02:15:11 PM
Pics or it didn't happen,  =)

How about video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNwdYwEZYWY

At 7:32.

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Post by: Stevie-Ray on February 04, 2010, 04:14:55 PM
Oh man, that's funny. I think I even heard something like, maybe snickers from the crowd?
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Post by: BrokenPaw on February 04, 2010, 04:32:48 PM
You'd think that by now his handlers would have figured out to program His Holy Teleprompter with fonetiklee-speld werds.
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Post by: Jamisjockey on February 04, 2010, 04:42:16 PM
IBTL!
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Post by: Perd Hapley on February 04, 2010, 05:22:27 PM
I think you may have the wrong video.  See this one:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/02/04/obama_mispronounces_corpsman_at_prayer_breakfast.html


The corpse-man wasn't wounded, he was treating an injured person from Haiti. 
Title: Re: Any nukyoolar corpsemen here?
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on February 04, 2010, 05:31:11 PM
Rush was talking about a different one then.  Heard it on his show.
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Post by: Perd Hapley on February 04, 2010, 05:36:13 PM
I also heard it on his show, and he played a clip from the prayer breakfast, not from the naval air station. 

Unless he made the same mistake, twice, in two different speeches.   :O

I didn't hear him talking about corpse-men or corpsmen on the video you posted, but then I couldn't stand to watch the whole thing. 
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Post by: sanglant on February 04, 2010, 05:39:55 PM
he did it twice =|, and you can jump to a spot in a youtube vid, it's right at the end [popcorn]
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Post by: S. Williamson on February 04, 2010, 05:49:02 PM
I figured out why I hate his speeches.  It's the teleprompters at 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock which are the only things he looks at.  It's either EYES RIGHT or EYES LEFT and never straight ahead.  The only occasion when he does that is pre-recorded commercial stuff.

It's really annoying.  =(
Title: Re: Any nukyoolar corpsemen here?
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 04, 2010, 05:49:59 PM
You're right!  He did it twice at the prayer breakfast, and at least once at Jackonsville.   =D
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Post by: Scout26 on February 04, 2010, 06:41:54 PM
Yep, he did at JAX and the National Prayer Breakfast.   There are snickers, etc. at the JAX speach.....
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Post by: CNYCacher on February 04, 2010, 06:43:06 PM
Fast-forwarded link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNwdYwEZYWY#t=7m30s
Title: Re: Any nukyoolar corpsemen here?
Post by: Scout26 on February 04, 2010, 06:52:23 PM
I figured out why I hate his speeches.  It's the teleprompters at 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock which are the only things he looks at.  It's either EYES RIGHT or EYES LEFT and never straight ahead.  The only occasion when he does that is pre-recorded commercial stuff.

It's really annoying.  =(

Agreed, and he pauses between swings.  It's like watching a metronome......
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Post by: dogmush on February 04, 2010, 07:10:34 PM
So you all realize that it was probably 8 years of the whole nukyoolar thing that made him a corpse man now, right?

That means the zombies are Bush's fault too.
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Post by: Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas on February 04, 2010, 07:15:47 PM
Agreed, and he pauses between swings.  It's like watching a metronome......
The public speaking classes all demand that you swing your head so everybody thinks you're looking at them. Obama's head-waving is a way of doing just that.
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Post by: S. Williamson on February 04, 2010, 08:09:17 PM
The public speaking classes all demand that you swing your head so everybody thinks you're looking at them. Obama's head-waving is a way of doing just that.
And I don't disagree with the idea, either.

Just vary it a little, not like "blah blah blah" *turn head 30 degrees to the right of center* "blah blah blah" *turn head 30 degrees to left of center*  ;/
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Post by: sanglant on February 04, 2010, 08:11:53 PM
i go errrrr every time he looks the other way, it makes the world spin a little easier >:D
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Post by: Sergeant Bob on February 04, 2010, 08:29:29 PM
Obobblehead.
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Post by: Scout26 on February 04, 2010, 08:38:30 PM
The public speaking classes all demand that you swing your head so everybody thinks you're looking at them. Obama's head-waving is a way of doing just that.

Yes, but he always looks at the same two points.  Never directly ahead or different vertical angles, (front of audience, back of audience, middle of audience)  It's always the same to points (Telepromter left and right).  Never changes his timing, like I said, watch him, he's a metronome.
Title: Re: Any nukyoolar corpsemen here?
Post by: longeyes on February 04, 2010, 08:47:48 PM
He's got the U.S. Marine "Corpse" guarding him last time I checked.  Hard to understand how he makes that mistake unless, well, he ain't as bright as they've been telling us...
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Post by: seeker_two on February 04, 2010, 09:11:58 PM
The public speaking classes all demand that you swing your head so everybody thinks you're looking at them. Obama's head-waving is a way of doing just that.

....only if he went to the Stevie Wonder School of Oratory....  :lol:
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Post by: Perd Hapley on February 04, 2010, 10:03:37 PM
Yes, but he always looks at the same two points.  Never directly ahead or different vertical angles, (front of audience, back of audience, middle of audience)  It's always the same to points (Telepromter left and right).  Never changes his timing, like I said, watch him, he's a metronome.


Doesn't he usually have a teleprompter on either side?  Might explain it. 
Title: Re: Any nukyoolar corpsemen here?
Post by: HankB on February 05, 2010, 03:11:36 PM
Another video here . . . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlKIfzoC8D0

CORPSE-MAN = ZOMBIE?

Funny you should mention this . . . in the video linked above, he emphasizes that the Navy Corpse Man is an American . . . OF HAITIAN DESCENT!

Haiti . . . land of VOODOO and ZOMBIES!!!

Maybe TOTUS knows something we don't?  :O
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Post by: Scout26 on February 05, 2010, 03:16:27 PM

Doesn't he usually have a teleprompter on either side?  Might explain it.  

That's exactly how they're set up:

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fo.aolcdn.com%2Fphoto-hub%2Fnews_gallery%2F6%2F4%2F646457%2F1264430322987.JPEG&hash=c78c3ca090ef6fed2c385d5e2ce0f2f381a34d94)

The words are projected onto the glass screens on either side.
Title: Re: Any nukyoolar corpsemen here?
Post by: Jamisjockey on February 05, 2010, 07:03:52 PM
Okay this one has just gotten silly.
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Post by: StopTheGrays on February 08, 2010, 02:07:52 PM
I have no problem with using the teleprompter or the mispronunciations. It is the cadence of the speech that bugs me and the constant use of strawman arguments. Everytime he starts with "...some may say..." I just go  ;/

 
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Post by: MechAg94 on February 08, 2010, 03:15:37 PM
Does he refer to the US Marine Corps or the US Marine Corpse?  Just curious. 
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Post by: seeker_two on February 08, 2010, 07:56:08 PM
Does he refer to the US Marine Corps or the US Marine Corpse?  Just curious. 

..or Rep. Murtha?.....
Title: Re: Any nukyoolar corpsemen here?
Post by: Laurent du Var on February 09, 2010, 04:27:33 PM
Just out of curiosity - what's the right pronounciation of
Corpsman or Marine corps ?
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Post by: Scout26 on February 09, 2010, 04:35:03 PM
Just out of curiosity - what's the right pronounciation of
Corpsman or Marine corps ?

COREman

US Marine CORE

The p and s are silent.  I think it's French  =D :P
Title: Re: Any nukyoolar corpsemen here?
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 09, 2010, 04:38:06 PM
Just out of curiosity - what's the right pronounciation of
Corpsman or Marine corps ?

The way Obama said it, it sounds like the word for dead body (corpse), plus "man."
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Post by: BReilley on February 09, 2010, 05:22:41 PM
I have to admit I don't see the BIG BIG DEAL with this one, aside from it being just another gaffe.  It suggests that he didn't really prepare for the speeches, however, it's not like the average citizen knows what a corpsman is or how to pronounce the word.

Nuclear, on the other hand, is a word nearly anyone knows, and although "nukyular" is a very common mispronunciation, it's still a mispronunciation.  It made Bush sound stupid(which is not to say that he is stupid).

I'll give Obama more of a pass than I give Bush.
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Post by: MechAg94 on February 09, 2010, 07:00:45 PM
I refuse to hold Obama to any different standard on such things as I would a Republican. 

Which means that for me personally, I don't care, but I think the media is treating them far differently.  Considering the history with Dan Quayle and "potatos", it is nothing new.
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Post by: Perd Hapley on February 09, 2010, 07:00:58 PM
"Corpsman" is by no means an obscure word, and "nucular" is not that bad, as mispronunciations go.  I would have to say that "corpse-man" is more noticeable, and more likely to make a person sound stupid. 

But part of that is subjective, I admit.  I don't usually notice "nucular," and I can't say for sure how I even pronounce it. 

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Post by: sanglant on February 09, 2010, 07:15:14 PM
and bush was never held up as the great orator, therefore THE obama should get much less slack on any speaking issue [tinfoil]
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Post by: BReilley on February 10, 2010, 01:08:11 PM
and bush was never held up as the great orator, therefore THE obama should get much less slack on any speaking issue [tinfoil]

At first thought, I agree.  Obama and his team have postured him as the end-all, be-all of speakers, but regardless, they're both Presidents.  They both should have a command of the language.
Title: Re: Any nukyoolar corpsemen here?
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 10, 2010, 04:56:40 PM
But you seriously still think "nucular" is worse than "corpse-man"? 
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Post by: doczinn on February 11, 2010, 06:40:35 PM
Laurent, I can't believe a Frenchman would have to ask how to pronounce "corps"...

Unless you assumed we pronounced as wrongly as we do most French words.
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Post by: BReilley on February 13, 2010, 12:16:24 AM
But you seriously still think "nucular" is worse than "corpse-man"? 

You seriously don't?

Look at the word "corpsman".  Sound it out.  Corpse-man.
Look at "nuclear".  Sound it out.  ...

It's a mispronunciation either way, and sure it makes him look dumb and it lets us all know he didn't properly prepare - but, I don't see what's the B-F-D about him mispronouncing what amounts to a semi-obscure word for most of the population.
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Post by: Perd Hapley on February 13, 2010, 12:49:43 AM
Look at the word "corpsman".  Sound it out.  Corpse-man.

That's it exactly.  I wasn't sure how to make my point, but you just made it for me.  It's as if he's never heard this word spoken before.  Naturally, it's nothing of ground-breaking importance, but it does indicate a certain lack of familiarity with (or interest in) the military and its jargon.  "Corpse-man," reflects actual ignorance of a semi-obscure word common bit of military jargon.  This is an, admittedly small, disappointment from a commander-in-chief. 

I guess I see "nucular" as an unconscious switching of vowel sounds.  I hear that sort of thing all the time, in various words, from people with varying degrees of education.  It's so common, I can't think of any examples that even stand out in my memory.  It's quite common for people to pronounce words the way other people do, rather than sounding them out letter by letter. 


But, hey, I'm sorry.  I've just never been able to climb aboard the nucular-bashing bandwagon.  I have too many other grammar/spelling/syntax errors to get annoyed about.  Also, I suspect most people on said wagon were also mispronouncing the word until someone pointed out that Bush was doing it.  Present company excepted, of course.   =)