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Title: Obamagate #1
Post by: charby on March 24, 2010, 05:57:32 PM
Looks like scandal number one is starting.

Drop out of the primary race and get a federal admin office. hmmmm?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20001105-503544.html

Title: Re: Obamagate #1
Post by: brimic on March 24, 2010, 08:32:16 PM
Wow, even See-BS is starting to come out of the afterglow of the chosen one's inaugeration.
Title: Re: Obamagate #1
Post by: RocketMan on March 24, 2010, 10:28:17 PM
It's unfortunate, but this will not go anywhere in a Democrat-controlled Congress.
Title: Re: Obamagate #1
Post by: gunsmith on March 25, 2010, 12:25:30 AM
the msm wont follow up or care enough to create the firestorm needed for a real "gate"
Title: Re: Obamagate #1
Post by: brimic on March 25, 2010, 01:55:34 AM
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It's unfortunate, but this will not go anywhere in a Democrat-controlled Congress.

Or with Eric Holder as AG.

Want to keep the slime off you? Surround yourself with slime.
Title: Re: Obamagate #1
Post by: sanglant on March 25, 2010, 04:09:26 AM
more like, "don't want people to know you have been swimming in the sewer?" "then fill your pool with sewage." =|
Title: Re: Obamagate #1
Post by: taurusowner on March 25, 2010, 11:56:00 AM
the msm wont follow up or care enough to create the firestorm needed for a real "gate"

This.  BHO will not have any scandals because the media will always deflect for him.
Title: Re: Obamagate #1
Post by: longeyes on March 25, 2010, 12:03:51 PM
Individual scandals won't matter in the political climate that's evolved.  We are dealing with one monstrous scandal that is now finding a name.
Title: Re: Obamagate #1
Post by: taurusowner on March 25, 2010, 12:34:16 PM
Individual scandals won't matter in the political climate that's evolved.  We are dealing with one monstrous scandal that is now finding a name.

That's a good point.  The classic concept of a "scandal" is that an otherwise mostly "good" official does something bad or is involved with some bad people.  But the "scandal" is something apart from his normal actions as that official.  BHO breaks that mold.  His entire presidency is a string of bad actions and involvements with even worse people.  There is no "good" BHO to make an individual scandal something apart.
Title: Re: Obamagate #1
Post by: Headless Thompson Gunner on March 25, 2010, 12:37:31 PM
Yup.  If the actions they take out in the open, the actions that they take credit for, aren't enough to sink these people, then secret conspiracies and scandals won't matter a bit.

Their public policies are a scandal.  Never mind their secret machinations in the dark.
Title: Re: Obamagate #1
Post by: agricola on March 25, 2010, 03:58:06 PM
No offence, but isnt this Obamagate #19? 

Title: Re: Obamagate #1
Post by: mellestad on March 25, 2010, 04:05:38 PM
This.  BHO will not have any scandals because the media will always deflect for him.

The only reason this is confusing to me, is because it was originally linked to on this site by a msm source.   =|
Title: Re: Obamagate #1
Post by: sanglant on March 25, 2010, 04:25:22 PM
and do you really believe they will follow up, and force the issue into the light? [popcorn]
Title: Re: Obamagate #1
Post by: taurusowner on March 25, 2010, 04:33:28 PM
The only reason this is confusing to me, is because it was originally linked to on this site by a msm source.   =|

That reminds me of back during the election, about how there was a study done that showed the MSM had X times the number of positive stories about BHO vs McCain.  Did they do positive stories about McCain.  Yep.  But when it's only a fraction of the amount of positive stories done about BHO, can on really point to the minuscule number of pro McCain stories and say "See! They're equal! The MSM is saying good things about both sides!"

Just because one MSM source wrote one story about this scandal, it is in no way shape or form comparable to the dozens of stories, segments, editorials, and expose's pushed on us for weeks whenever a conservative is accused of something.
Title: Re: Obamagate #1
Post by: mellestad on March 25, 2010, 04:43:53 PM
and do you really believe they will follow up, and force the issue into the light? [popcorn]

If the there is no appropriate response to the congressman from the whitehouse, I imagine there will be followup, yes.

The media likes blood in the water, it doesn't matter which side it comes from.

Either way, I look forward to the discussion...although at this point I don't see much to talk about, other than waiting to see what develops.  If Obama did something illegal or if his staffers did something illegal, the Republicans have *every* possible motive to ferret it out, and the media won't ignore a juicy issue like that.  The idea that something verifiably illegal happened involving Obama but no-one will follow up on it is cynical on one side and naive on the other.

Honestly, considering how many people are employed in the white house I am surprised they have kept their noses as clean as they have.  (Naturally, you might think they are simply being shielded by the media, but there isn't anything I can say to debunk a good conspiracy theory)
Title: Re: Obamagate #1
Post by: Balog on March 25, 2010, 04:55:24 PM
If you think the msm isn't trying to cover Obama's ass I'd suggest you look at how long Bill Ayers and Rev Wright were being screamed about on teh intarwebz before the msm was forced to cover it. And look at how they covered it.
Title: Re: Obamagate #1
Post by: mellestad on March 25, 2010, 06:22:52 PM
If you think the msm isn't trying to cover Obama's ass I'd suggest you look at how long Bill Ayers and Rev Wright were being screamed about on teh intarwebz before the msm was forced to cover it. And look at how they covered it.

I guess I would ask for a more defined definition of 'cover' then.  If you are saying someone at CNN is actively protecting the Obama white house, I would be highly skeptical of that claim.  If you are saying that news organizations are less likely to do investigative journalism focused on politicians that hold the same views as their consumer base, I would agree with that.

Besides, it isn't like any of the media outlets do much legwork for anything anyway.  Most of the 'scandals' on both sides are found out by politicians with an obvious ax to grind or from 'teh intarwebz'.  Any more media outlets rely on the Internet to decide which scandals generate an appropriate level of consumer outrage before they cover them.
Title: Re: Obamagate #1
Post by: 230RN on April 07, 2010, 05:21:55 AM
Well, that's the White-House-On-Lake-Michigan for you...

... if true.
Title: Re: Obamagate #1
Post by: taurusowner on April 07, 2010, 05:29:51 AM
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If the there is no appropriate response to the congressman from the whitehouse, I imagine there will be followup, yes.

Still waiting for that followup?
Title: Re: Obamagate #1
Post by: mellestad on April 07, 2010, 11:40:34 AM
Still waiting for that followup?


I see Issa saying he is going to give the Whitehouse more time, and Sestak is not saying who offered him a job or what that job was, or any details about anything.  How can you have a scandal when the guy complaining about the scandal won't even talk about the scandal?  Honestly it sounds like Issa is wussing out.

We'll see, but right now Issa is the only one who seems to care about it and unless he is willing to put his money where his mouth is nothing is going to happen since none of the only witness is refusing to discuss it with anyone.
Title: Re: Obamagate #1
Post by: longeyes on April 07, 2010, 12:18:20 PM
A pimple on the ass of the biggest elephant in the biggest living room in history.  The entire thrust of this administration is "scandalous," if you consider trying to torpedo your own nation a "scandal."