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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: Perd Hapley on April 09, 2010, 10:51:28 PM
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I just had this really weird thought about Noah's Ark floating in space.....
Now that you've had some time to digest that, it brought up the question I sometimes ponder but never actually research, about how various inanimate objects would be affected by the vacuum of outer space. What would happen to wood, for example? Or if you did strap corpses to your mock-Reaver vessel, what would happen to them in space?
Thank you.
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Umm...desication?
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Umm...desication?
Do you think he is trying to make jerky or something? =D
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Is anyone else seeing/not seeing the pic that Fistfull posted?
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Do you think he is trying to make jerky or something? =D
Space jerky.
Is anyone else seeing/not seeing the pic that Fistfull posted?
There isn't one.
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oh there's a pic, i vote we ban him for it.
:lol: =D
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Is anyone else seeing/not seeing the pic that Fistfull posted?
I was just giving you some time to wonder why on earth I was thinking such a bizarre thought, but here's the closest picture I could find to the ark in space. I'm hoping Tuttle will oblige us with something. =)
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i suspect the wood would freeze and split where on the dark side, and char and fall apart on the bright side, the bodies would be freeze dried on the first and charbroiled on the second. [tinfoil]
wait, does that mean there's a dark side of the ark? if so....
if the board your on starts posting different threads,, i'll see you on the dark side of the ark.... =D
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The fluids in the body would begin immediately boiling as soon as atmospheric pressure was lost with corresponding expansion and laceration/fracturing of the surrounding tissues until the thermal loss overtakes that process causing the remaining fluids to freeze. Oh wait, did you not want a serious answer? *whistles innocently*
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The fluids in the body would begin immediately boiling as soon as atmospheric pressure was lost with corresponding expansion and laceration/fracturing of the surrounding tissues until the thermal loss overtakes that process causing the remaining fluids to freeze. Oh wait, did you not want a serious answer? *whistles innocently*
You're gross sometimes, Bill. :lol:
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You're gross sometimes, Bill. :lol:
No, gross is visualizing what happens to a persons skeleton in vacuum when the bone marrow locked inside suddenly expands in volume several times over.
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Dude. [barf]
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what, you didn't know how jerky was made? [popcorn]
but really
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIK4DVLHf7Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfI0NKl-Kq0
=D
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No, gross is visualizing what happens to a persons skeleton in vacuum when the bone marrow locked inside suddenly expands in volume several times over.
*crunchsplat*
:P
What I've gotta wonder, though, is would the skin actually rupture like a hot dog in the microwave? IIRC, bones, etc. are porous what with the marrow producing blood and all, and the tear ducts/nose/mouth/nethers... wouldn't the fluids merely seep from them instead (like poking holes in the aforementioned hypothetical hot dog)?
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*crunchsplat*
:P
What I've gotta wonder, though, is would the skin actually rupture like a hot dog in the microwave? IIRC, bones, etc. are porous what with the marrow producing blood and all, and the tear ducts/nose/mouth/nethers... wouldn't the fluids merely seep from them instead (like poking holes in the aforementioned hypothetical hot dog)?
I'm not sure. We should test.. FOR SCIENCE!! Anybody got a fresh cadaver and a vacuum chamber they aren't currently using?
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Seems NASA already has.
NOT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART OR PeTA PEOPLE:
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/atmosphere/q0291.shtml
... but very interesting nonetheless.
Summary: You puff up like a marshmallow, but the real danger is lack of oxygen.
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I'm hoping Tuttle will oblige us with something. =)
PFFT
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I imagine drying out and otherwise perfect preservation. As it's oxygen dependent microbes that are the reason for decay, in space where there is no oxygen or other gases there would effectively be no organic decomposition and any damage would be purely physical. Cooking either through heat or radiation, impact from asteroids or other space debris, etc.
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This thread is quiet now because none of you can believe how completely and utterly I have destroyed Tuttle's reputation as an image manipulator. Look upon my work and weep. Weep because Tuttle has fallen. But moreso, weep because I have taken his place.
You do not yet know tyranny.
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:'(
/cue lamentations of women and children
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Now that you've had some time to digest that, it brought up the question I sometimes ponder but never actually research, about how various inanimate objects would be affected by the vacuum of outer space. What would happen to wood, for example? Or if you did strap corpses to your mock-Reaver vessel, what would happen to them in space?
Thank you.
Thermal cycling (I assume your object is rotating, alternating between sun and shade) would quickly break down most materials, including wood and flesh. Dessication and outgassing would also be major problems for many materials. Radiation would do a number on most materials, too.
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It doesn't matter how long or how a corpse would become nothing when floating in space because the armies of Hell on their way to Earth from Phobos will pick up all corpses and reanimate them for use in their horrifying army.
Amateurs.
This is probably what the horrible Daemon piloted ship would look like cruising through space.
Be warned, it's graphic.
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Mabs, you are the dumbest tyrant ever. I am not afraid of you. You are dumb.
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Mabs, you are the dumbest tyrant ever. I am not afraid of you. You are dumb.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcY090XV284#t=9m45s :laugh:
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Dionysusigma would seem to be right about the hot-dog-in-the-μwave popping.
The vapor pressure of water is 47 mm Hg at body temperature -- about 1 psia. Assuming a fresh, warm corpse, the blood would start evaporating quickly, maybe even boil, and try to fill the body cavity to that 1 psia with nothing pushing back. Maybe a little less because of the salt in the body's fluid, maybe a little more because the gases (N2) dissolved in the fluids would start to come out of solution, like "the bends."
Man, what a f@rt that would be! Might even be enough to throw the corpse out of orbit!
Say, if Noah took only two of each animal, what did he feed the lions after the two lambs/sheep were eaten?
And he must've had one heck of a ventilation and stall-cleaning problem, yes?
Terry, 230RN
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Hey, if Noah took only two of each animal, what did he feed the lions after the two lambs/sheep were eaten?
And he must've had one heck of a ventilation and stall-cleaning problem, yes?
Terry, 230RN
You have to remember, they had a LOT of kids back then...
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It doesn't matter how long or how a corpse would become nothing when floating in space because the armies of Hell on their way to Earth from Phobos will pick up all corpses and reanimate them for use in their horrifying army.
Amateurs.
This is probably what the horrible Daemon piloted ship would look like cruising through space.
Be warned, it's graphic.
(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi41.tinypic.com%2F15nn2vq.jpg&hash=0df009ba405f71c50aa8031b51ee3419dca1f179)
I wouldn't worry too much about a Daemon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemon_%28computer_software%29) piloted ship. Revdisk could probably telnet into it and crash it. And you're still a goof.
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what if it's this daemon?
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spent the day shooping fence posts in concrete in meatspace
Check out "Knowing" with Nicholas Cage for some moderne space arks
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Mabs, you are the dumbest tyrant ever. I am not afraid of you. You are dumb.
:(I wouldn't worry too much about a Daemon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemon_%28computer_software%29) piloted ship. Revdisk could probably telnet into it and crash it. And you're still a goof.
:((
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Not feeling very gay right now are you? =|
=D
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Not feeling very gay right now are you? =|
=D
NOT REALLY NO
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:lol:
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Since this is fistful's thread, I don't feel bad about hi-jacking it and turning it gay.
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I thought gay threads were born that way, so how can you turn it gay? You are obviously just pushing homophobic propaganda that being gay is a "choice." Hate-monger.
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OK, I've already nixed three possible replies, maybe I should leave this one alone... :angel:
:laugh:
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OK, I've already nixed three possible replies, maybe I should leave this one alone... :angel:
:laugh:
That is why I have stayed out of it. :angel: [popcorn]
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Say, if Noah took only two of each animal, what did he feed the lions after the two lambs/sheep were eaten?
Terry, 230RN
Dinosaurs.
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I thought gay threads were born that way, so how can you turn it gay? You are obviously just pushing homophobic propaganda that being gay is a "choice." Hate-monger.
Your threads are special. You seem to infuse latent Zardoz into everything you post.
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I don't know what latex has to do with Zardoz and I don't want to know.
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on the ark, the best theory(all we have on the actual workings[assume-ing :angel: it happened ;)]) i have hear is, that God arranged for 2 of each animal at it smallest size, and put them to sleep(the animals) for the voyage [popcorn]
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on the ark, the best theory(all we have on the actual workings[assume-ing :angel: it happened ;)]) i have hear is, that God arranged for 2 of each animal at it smallest size, and put them to sleep(the animals) for the voyage [popcorn]
That's awfully convenient, don't you think?
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That's awfully convenient, don't you think?
It's one theory.
The entire story of the Ark assumes an all-powerful Creator God intervening in the natural world. Putting the animals on the Ark was His idea. So there's nothing sneaky about postulating that this God might assist the operation in various ways.
Another theory that might go alongside, is that there may have been only one variety of canine, ursine, etc, at that time, from which other sorts of dogs, wolves, bears, etc, descended. This would have reduced the number of animals that were on board.
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Funny, this is the first I've heard either of these postulations.
Hmmmm, I'd have to vote for theory A. I mean, if you're already on a mission from God it's not too far fetched to believe He (or She) would give you a hand if you asked for it. ;)
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Funny, this is the first I've heard either of these postulations.
Hmmmm, I'd have to vote for theory A. I mean, if you're already on a mission from God it's not too far fetched to believe He (or She) would give you a hand if you asked for it. ;)
*gigglesnort*
Maybe I haven't had enough coffee yet, but I read that and this is all I could think of:
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IMHO, and this is as one of the resident heathens, theorizing as to how it happened is kind of counterproductive, right? I mean, if you believe in an all powerful creator, and that the Bible is His word....shouldn't it be a matter of faith? Just sayin....
As a dirty rotten heathen, I actually have alot of respect for people that believe in thier faith and don't try to come up with explanations for every little thing. Obviously, being educated and knoweldgeable about the faith matters.
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depends, if your just bored, and can't do anything else. well i can think of a lot worse things to be doing. :angel:
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Actually, 280 was right. Having an omnipotent being to step in and tie up loose ends is very convenient. :laugh:
IMHO, and this is as one of the resident heathens, theorizing as to how it happened is kind of counterproductive, right? I mean, if you believe in an all powerful creator, and that the Bible is His word....shouldn't it be a matter of faith? Just sayin....
As a dirty rotten heathen, I actually have alot of respect for people that believe in thier faith and don't try to come up with explanations for every little thing. Obviously, being educated and knoweldgeable about the faith matters.
That's not really the arena of faith. Faith shouldn't really come into it, until you've decided whether the whole scenario is believable in the first place. If the evidence suggests that you should believe it, then faith is really only for those times when you doubt God's judgment on a particular issue. As in, when your small child dies, do you curse God for screwing up, or do you continue to trust that He is wiser than you when He allowed your kid to die so early in life? That's what faith is for, because there is no scientific way of knowing what scenario would have worked out better.
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I've heard that the unicorns were out playing in the puddles and missed the boat.
Which is why they are now extinct ;)
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I've heard that the unicorns were out playing in the puddles and missed the boat.
Which is why they are now extinct ;)
The dinosaurs too.
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Actually, 280 was right.
Don't be spreading that around, you'll ruin my rep for being precisely incorrect on all matters. :O
:lol:
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Another theory that might go alongside, is that there may have been only one variety of canine, ursine, etc, at that time, from which other sorts of dogs, wolves, bears, etc, descended. This would have reduced the number of animals that were on board.
Isn't that some kind of evol...
Ah, never mind. My theory is that he had great HVAC equipment for ventilation and a food synthesizer on board: Select E2 for Oat's 'n Honey Nut Bars for a buck, A6 for a steak dinner for a sawbuck, a whole lamb (B7) for for the lions for $20, five bales of hay a day (M3) for the elephants for only $15.00, F7 for soup and sandwich for a fiver...
I'm not signing this one so nobody will know who posted it. =D
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Isn't that some kind of evol...
I never understood why people considered proof of evolution proof of no God.
Surely if God can create an entire universe in seven days he can create evolution, no?
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Isn't that some kind of evol...
Kind of. The sort of creationists who so theorize accept that natural selection can lead to new breeds (or even new species); they just don't buy that natural processes can lead from guppies to goats. Another objection is that random processes can only lead to a loss of genetic information, not add to it.
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No, wrong.
The unicorns ate the dinosaurs.
Then God turned the all unicorn souls into the rainbow after the storm. :laugh:
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And on this wise did the LORD God bestow His Holy Obama upon all mankind.
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And on this wise did the LORD God bestow His Holy Obama upon all mankind.
That would be a good reason to be an atheist :mad:
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Fistful: Making intolerance tolerable since 2005. :laugh:
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Mabs, you are the dumbest tyrant ever. I am not afraid of you. You are dumb.
....and you're gay....whoever heard of a gay tyrant?.... :O
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Mabs, you are the dumbest tyrant ever. I am not afraid of you. You are dumb.
....and you're gay....whoever heard of a gay tyrant?.... :O
I thought Mabs was the gay one. So now Fistful is gay, and mabs is a tyrant? I thought he was a goof.
I can never keep track of these things.
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take 2 oxis and it all adds up. :angel:
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....and you're gay....whoever heard of a gay tyrant?.... :O
I thought Mabs was the gay one. So now Fistful is gay, and mabs is a tyrant? I thought he was a goof.
I can never keep track of these things.
No, no, no......Mabs is the gay tyrant (if there is such a thing) and fistful is.....well, fistful....and that's even worse.... :facepalm:
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I don't remember Noah being German, but that looks awfully like an 88
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Noah is the father of all races. At least if you believe the story. =)
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yep, we have a lot to blame on that incestuous b___age(can we say that here?). [popcorn]
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Incestuous? Perhaps you're thinking of Lot? ???
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....and you're gay....whoever heard of a gay tyrant?.... :O
Wasn't there some Alexander fellow...?
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i was thinking of this (http://ldolphin.org/canaan.html), your right Incestuous is to strong. but i bet it was still damaging to the younger ones =)
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Dude, Ham was a married adult by then, not a little tyke.
Yeah, OK, I know the first eleven chapters pretty well and have probably thought about them way too much.
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Mabs:
I never understood why people considered proof of evolution proof of no God.
'Cause there's religious-like fervor on both sides of the issue.
Terry, 230RN
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No, wrong.
The unicorns ate the dinosaurs.
Then God turned the all unicorn souls into the rainbow after the storm. :laugh:
CHARRRRRRRRRRLIEEEEE! Let's get on the ARRRRRRRK, CHARLIEEEEEEEEEE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5im0Ssyyus
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:lol: hey where's my, was it kidney? :O
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Wasn't there some Alexander fellow...?
Alexander was NOT gay....and I have irrefutable proof...
1. He was in the military....so, even if he was gay, he couldn't tell anyone.
2. Archaeologists have found no evidence of pink armor.
3. If Alexander had been gay, the Macedonian Army would have conquered the known world in better shoes.
4. Mabs would use his picture as his avatar.
:P