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Title: We must be living in a virtual utopia
Post by: Northwoods on May 24, 2010, 01:53:44 AM
Otherwise, why on earth would this be a sufficiently high priority to warrant congressional action.

Quote from: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/23/afoot-congress-ban-drop-cribs/?test=latestnews
Senator Moves to Ban Drop-Side Cribs

Associated Press

Consumer Product Safety Commission Chairman Inez Tenenbaum has pledged to ban the manufacture and sale of the cribs by the end of the year with a new standard that would make fixed-side cribs mandatory.

WASHINGTON  -- The baby crib, usually a safe haven for little ones, became a death trap for 6-month-old Bobby Cirigliano.

The side rail on his drop-side crib slid off the tracks and trapped his head and neck between the mattress and the malfunctioning side rail. His face pressed against the mattress, the boy suffocated.

"I just don't feel complete anymore," says his mother, Susan Cirigliano of North Bellmore on New York's Long Island.

Bobby was one of at least 32 infants or toddlers since 2000 who suffocated or were strangled in a drop-side crib, which has a side that moves up and down to allow parents to lift children from the cribs more easily than cribs with fixed sides. Drop-sides are suspected in an additional 14 infant fatalities during that time.

Consumer Product Safety Commission Chairman Inez Tenenbaum has pledged to ban the manufacture and sale of the cribs by the end of the year with a new standard that would make fixed-side cribs mandatory. It could be several months into 2011 before becoming effective.

While the industry has already started phasing out drop-sides, there are plenty for sale on the Internet, and that's part of the reason Congress is getting involved.

"There's a great urgency here. We have to make sure that no parent is unaware that drop-side cribs could kill their children," Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y., said in an Associated Press interview.

At a news conference in New York on Sunday, Gillibrand plans to outline legislation to outlaw the manufacture, sale and resale of all drop-side cribs and ban them from day-care centers and hotels. She hopes the legislation will accelerate efforts for a ban, either via Congress or the CPSC.

The industry insists that babies are safe in drop-side cribs.

"We believe firmly that when these products are assembled and used properly, they are the safest place to put your child," said Mike Dwyer, executive director of the Juvenile Products Manufacturers Association.

I certainly don't mean to take anything away from the tragedy of the 32 dead kids.  But, seriously, this is the risk factor that is high enough to warrent this level of attention?  Falls killed (from 2000-2006) 310 kids aged 0-2.  Accidental drownings killed 2704.  Poisoning killed 264.  Overeall accidental suffocations, not just those involving cribs, took the lives of 5441 kids aged 0-2. 
Title: Re: We must be living in a virtual utopia
Post by: PTK on May 24, 2010, 02:00:38 AM
Simple. Re-election. :)
Title: Re: We must be living in a virtual utopia
Post by: KD5NRH on May 24, 2010, 02:19:04 AM
Falls killed (from 2000-2006) 310 kids aged 0-2.  Accidental drownings killed 2704.  Poisoning killed 264.  Overeall accidental suffocations, not just those involving cribs, took the lives of 5441 kids aged 0-2.

In 2006 alone, 579 children 4 and under were killed in car wrecks, yet we don't see any Federal action geared toward discouraging people from just tossing Junior in the car for an unnecessary trip.

(Actually, I think this may be a significant factor in the reduction of infant/toddler fatalities from car wrecks since the requirements for safety seats; the extra hassle of strapping the child into the car seat makes the parent think twice about whether they really want to make an extra run to Taco Bell or whatever.)
Title: Re: We must be living in a virtual utopia
Post by: MicroBalrog on May 24, 2010, 03:45:11 AM
What did you think gasoline taxes are for if not to discourage the use of private automobiles?
Title: Re: We must be living in a virtual utopia
Post by: KD5NRH on May 24, 2010, 04:47:16 AM
What did you think gasoline taxes are for if not to discourage the use of private automobiles?

Can't really claim that does anything for child safety, though; at least on the Dallas buses, you can have your infant in your lap while riding.
Title: Re: We must be living in a virtual utopia
Post by: seeker_two on May 24, 2010, 06:20:15 AM
Simple. Re-election. :)

True....gotta have the soccer-mom vote....  ;/
Title: Re: We must be living in a virtual utopia
Post by: Northwoods on May 24, 2010, 11:23:34 AM
What did you think gasoline taxes are for if not to discourage the use of private automobiles?

They're for revenue generation.  If they were to discourage private automobile use they'd be closer to $18/gal, not 18cents/gal
Title: Re: We must be living in a virtual utopia
Post by: Tallpine on May 24, 2010, 11:30:47 AM
In other news, OSHA is considering banning fixed-sided cribs because childcare workers can hurt their backs lifting infants into and out of cribs.

 ;/

 :lol:
Title: Re: We must be living in a virtual utopia
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on May 24, 2010, 11:33:30 AM
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While the industry has already started phasing out drop-sides, there are plenty for sale on the Internet, and that's part of the reason Congress is getting involved.

So, we're going to have Congress ban garage sales that have used cribs, or Craigslist/eBay crib sales?

If the industry isn't making any more... problem solved.
Title: Re: We must be living in a virtual utopia
Post by: Tallpine on May 24, 2010, 11:36:53 AM
So, we're going to have Congress ban garage sales that have used cribs, or Craigslist/eBay crib sales?

If the industry isn't making any more... problem solved.

Oh no, we will have to have SWAT raids on homes that might possibly have a drop side crib inside.  =(
Title: Re: We must be living in a virtual utopia
Post by: roo_ster on May 24, 2010, 12:14:22 PM
Oh no, we will have to have SWAT raids on homes that might possibly have a drop side crib inside.  =(

To keep them from flushing the evidence down the toilet...

Don't forget, they'll shoot your dogs while doing so.
Title: Re: We must be living in a virtual utopia
Post by: longeyes on May 24, 2010, 12:35:40 PM
Interesting how the collectivists go insane over the rare and unique.  What is it exactly that they fear, other than the risk of being alive...?
Title: Re: We must be living in a virtual utopia
Post by: dogmush on May 24, 2010, 01:28:04 PM
In other news, OSHA is considering banning fixed-sided cribs because childcare workers can hurt their backs lifting infants into and out of cribs.

 ;/

 :lol:

I was going to say, What about mothers in wheelchairs.  Read creativly enough I bet the Americans with Disabilities Act requires drop-side cribs.

Why does Kristen Gillibrand hate the handicapped?
Title: Re: We must be living in a virtual utopia
Post by: longeyes on May 24, 2010, 06:48:31 PM
What motivates the Left isn't just an obsession with "safety," it's nihilism.
Title: Re: We must be living in a virtual utopia
Post by: Waitone on May 24, 2010, 09:27:46 PM
Studied irrelevancy.

Won't do anything about exploding debt, but boy-howdy they are all over cribs and atm fees.  We are ruled by morally vapid, intellectual midgets.