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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: grislyatoms on June 15, 2010, 05:00:05 PM
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Kiddo knows the "sweet spots".
Groin, fingers (pinky in particular), nose, eyes,face, ears.
I pity anyone who will mess with my child...
She'll kickem inna nuts, break their fingers, bite anything she can get hold of and then run like hell.
Missed a few years of Princess -type innocence but...it was a good trade-off.
For her birthday (August , she'll be 12) I'm going to let her pick out a .357 revolver.
Gonna work her up on .38 and then see if she can handle .357.
.38/.357 - best training combo ever.
BTW - any other "sweet spots"?
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I want her to grow up with it as a familiar old friend. Any suggestions?
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I want her to grow up with it as a familiar old friend. Any suggestions?
4" S&W 686. Stainless.
BTW - any other "sweet spots"?
You've got it pretty good. Legs are very powerful - worst case - kick anything you can. Break some toes with a good stomp.
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BTW - any other "sweet spots"?
Yes ... especially if you are grabbed/being held from behind.
Stomp down HARD! on the instep of the assailant's foot, with your heel. Works best if you are wearing shoes/boots with a hard heel. The idea is to crush the bones in the arch of the foot (is that the metatarsal?).
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eyes its gross but a fight ender
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Yes ... especially if you are grabbed/being held from behind.
Stomp down HARD! on the instep of the assailant's foot, with your heel. Works best if you are wearing shoes/boots with a hard heel. The idea is to crush the bones in the arch of the foot (is that the metatarsal?).
What he said. Also, if grabbed from behind, you can throw a wicked elbow into the side of the persons head. Elbows are insanely powerful, and heads tend to bleed a LOT.
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What about a side kick to a knee?
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Don't forget raking your instep down the shin as you go to stomp on the other person's instep. Hard sole edges work better, but even sneakers can hurt.
If you get into a chest-thumping, belly-bumping situation and can manage it, clapping them on the ears will cause a world of hurt. Big, wide arm swing or start with the arms close together as if to break an armhold attempt then open up enough to get the needed width. Flat hands seem to work better than cupped hands. Do it hard.
Thrust extended knuckles of first 2 fingers into the adam's apple/voicebox.
Use elbows instead of fists whenever possible - less chance of injury to you.
Do not forget that pens, keys, books (hardback or softcover), hairbrushes, those stubby antennas on some cell phones all make excellent stabbing devices. Books also are shields.
Depending on how heavy/bulky it is, a backpack can make an expedient flail.
Punting/drop-kicking the huevos may not be the best way to attack. Too much risk of either getting the leg trapped or losing balance, or worst of all hurting your own foot. If you are going to do it, use the middle of the shin instead of the instep.
Kicking/stomping the side of the knee may be viable. Depends on a lot of variables.
Perhaps buy this book http://www.amazon.com/womans-guide-personal-defense-street/dp/0399518452
stay safe.
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Cowgirl boots ;)
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Cowgirl boots ;)
With little silver bull horns on the tips. =D
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Just got back from Los Ranchos gun shop. She (well I, for legal purposes) are the owners of a magnificent adjustable sight model 66.
I figure I'll let her cut her teeth on it... and rhen get her something a little more compact.
My first S&W btw. Wow. I'm impressed.
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She (well I, for legal purposes) are the owners of a magnificent adjustable sight model 66.
IIRC, that's identical to the Model 19, but stainless, right?
Coolness.If she's smart, she'll keep it forever.
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What about a side kick to a knee?
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Just got back from Los Ranchos gun shop. She (well I, for legal purposes) are the owners of a magnificent adjustable sight model 66.
I figure I'll let her cut her teeth on it... and rhen get her something a little more compact.
My first S&W btw. Wow. I'm impressed.
Well done. It'll serve her well long after the price is forgotten.
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seems like we got the sweet spots covered, not panicking is also key.
Speaking of keys- if she is in the car already she needs a plan. stomp the gas , turn the wheel, grab the keys. Have plans for all the various scenarios used by abductors- like code words only you and the misses would know.
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Ears, if grabbed at the base where it meets the head, will come off like orange peels.
Nostrils, arent exactly strong
The armpits, if hit, hurt and the nerve endings will numb the arms for a bit.
All comes down to PRACTICE. Keep her doing it until its muscle memory
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BTW - any other "sweet spots"?
Knees and throat, nerve bundles on the inside of the thigh and forearms. I presume that she wouldn't be using sharp and pointy implements but there are a few choice places for those as well.
I remember my first time with a full power .357. I was a scrawny little 13 year old. Very amusing, guy was expecting me to go flying back. :)
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ad the best old jail trick always have a pencil sharp is good but even an unsharpened one will do
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One ex con to another in my classroom, "You do that again and I'll stick a pencil in your eye!"
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BTW - any other "sweet spots"?
Throat is a possibility.
eyes its gross but a fight ender
The problem with attacking the eyes is that some people have a tendency to scratch at them. My old kenpo instuctor said that when attacking the eyes, you should go for penetration - the inside corner (along the nose) is a good target, as the bones will guide your fingers deep into the socket and . . . well, we really don't need to get more graphic, do we?
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Kiddo knows the "sweet spots".
Kids are mean, nasty, violent critters! (if left alone) Seriously, young animals already know how to fight dirty, we adult-types take the fight out of them so that they can fit-in in public.
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Gouging the eyes as HankB suggested once saved my sister from a would-be rapist that had forced her into his car at the point of a sawed-off shotgun. She complied with him (to the point of starting to get undressed) until he put the gun down, and then she put a thumb in each of his eye sockets as far as they would go. Then she got out of his car and ran.
Messed him up pretty bad. I don't know that she permanently damaged him, but he was incapacitated so badly that the cops were able to just come fetch him, and he was still pretty messed up when he showed up in court several days later.
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Kudos to your sister, Broken Paw - glad she made it work out OK. :police:
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Kudos to your sister, Broken Paw - glad she made it work out OK. :police:
Me too. My sister's a pretty remarkable woman. She's one of those people who just...does what needs to be done. No matter what.
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She married???
Just kiddin', I'm married, but still...my kinda woman. Sounds pretty much like my wife!
Bob
PS: SWMBO is an only child, before you ask.
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I pity the poor criminal. He's lying there with his groin screaming, his foot and knees broken, shins bleeding, fingers broken, eyes gouged out, and then she shoots him. ;)
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Turning 12 this summer...
Covered so far:
BODY PARTS
- groin
- fingers (emphasis pinkie)
- eyes
- ears
- nose
- face (general)
- feet
- shins
- knees
- throat
- armpits
ATTACKS
- bite
- kick
- stomp
- elbow
- poke
- gouge
- run
WEAPONS
- pens/pencils
- keys
- brushes
- cell phone
- books
- backpacks
- cowgirl boots
REVOLVER
- S&W Model 66
I would add:
BODY PARTS
- collar bone
- temple
- inner thigh
- lower ribs
- side of the neck
- nasal depression (as an aiming point)
WEAPONS
- rocks
- bottles
- flashlights
- pipes
- tools
- sports equipment
- shivs
- chains
I'd also point out that there are dozens of objects that can make an improvised weapon around you at any given time. Try a few objects out with her and decide where they can inflict the most pain/damage.
Not to mention there are purpose-built objects meant to inflict damage while not sticking out to the unknowing eye. Something like this can be a big force multiplier: http://www.szaboinc.com/edged_detail.asp?offset=35&ID=114 (http://www.szaboinc.com/edged_detail.asp?offset=35&ID=114) and on a key-chain it sort of looks like a pink puzzle-piece or kanji.
Anything holding you back from getting her some training?
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Sticks! Sticks and stick like objects are ubiquitous.
You can really seriously injure or kill someone with a sturdy chunk of material about two feet long (baseball bat, 2x4, rebar, chair/table leg, etc)
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What about a side kick to a knee?
After having one dislocated, knees moved right to the top of my target list; no matter how tough your opponent is, when you take his knee out from under him, you can stroll out of his reach as casually as you want.
Also, don't forget the spot where the upper lip and nose meet. Not the easiest to attack, but if you can't get enough movement for a punch, a thumbnail pushed in there will make a tough opponent cry.
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Chin jab. Use your full bodyweight and hit BG on the point of the chin with an open palm. Not safe at all for sparring. Possibly lethal move. This is why boxers typically tuck their chins in.
The move with a hundred names - when your adversary is on the ground, jump onto his upper chest. When just above the guy (in the air), shoot your feet forward, heels first, and pwn him. Very good chances of the guy ending up dead. Obviously, this isn't good for sparring either, and being a "finishing off" move, comes with a host of legal issues. There are few situations where this method would be acceptable, but it is very effective.
Kick with the side of your foot, not the toes.
Karate chops to the neck/throat are fun. Hit an inch below the Adam's apple for added damage (again, not for sparring).
Work on a few techniques, and know them thoroughly.
Go on the offensive.
Win.
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Damn, this is inspiring! I think I'm going next door and beat up my neighbor's kid.
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Damn, this is inspiring! I think I'm going next door and beat up my neighbor's kid.
That'll teach him to stay off your lawn. :P
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Another revolver you may want to add to the list is a Ruger SP-101. It's a small-frame, but has plenty of weight to soften most .38+P recoil. Even .357Mag loads aren't that bad in it. Plus the smaller, yet cushioned grips fit smaller hands well. And you've given her a gun well-suited for her first CCW.
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Solar plexus and I haven't (I don't think) seen anyone mention the heel of the palm upward under the nose.
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First revolver/handgun I ever owned was a Taurus in a similar configuration to the model 66.
I really enjoyed it... and have sung it's praises many times.
This model 66...words can't describe it. Maybe I should create another thread...and maybe kiddo and I will have to negotiate terms.
Fit and finish...excellent. "Pointability" ...excellent
Recoil ...entirely manageable.
Overall a magnificent piece.
Ever since I had the income to purchase and feed semi-autos I never looked back. In doing so I missed out.
I'll never again question folks' choice to pack a revolver.
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Next 1911 is going to be SnW. I thought they got all their respect from movie hype... SnW for me from now on.
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Next 1911 is going to be SnW. I thought they got all their respect from movie hype... SnW for me from now on.
S&W is make good guns again; they are on the up-wave of their cycle. Other companies that were known for good guns <cough>Kimber<cough>, are on the down-wave.
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I know what ya mean... the Kimber UCII I bought awhile back was just horrible. Hammer-following right out of the box, wouldn't feed/eject properly...Two trips back to the factory and it still wouldn't run right.