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Title: The good guy finally wins and will retire. Cleared of Haditha massacre.
Post by: Desertdog on September 03, 2010, 01:04:41 AM
This Marine went through more trying to prove himself innocent than he probably went through in the war.  Three cheers forthe good guys.

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Title: Re: The good guy finally wins and will retire. Cleared of Haditha massacre.
Post by: roo_ster on September 03, 2010, 01:54:43 AM
The mendacity involved in falsely accusing someone(s) and making their life a living hell ought to be punishable somehow and in some way.
Title: Re: The good guy finally wins and will retire. Cleared of Haditha massacre.
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on September 03, 2010, 05:17:18 AM
hopefully they get wnd in hell and they move abscam jack to the warm side
Title: Re: The good guy finally wins and will retire. Cleared of Haditha massacre.
Post by: BridgeRunner on September 03, 2010, 06:40:00 AM
The mendacity involved in falsely accusing someone(s) and making their life a living hell ought to be punishable somehow and in some way.

+1

The same punishment that would have been imposeed for the crime falsely accused.  (logistically speaking, high burden of proof, need to show malice.)
Title: Re: The good guy finally wins and will retire. Cleared of Haditha massacre.
Post by: vaskidmark on September 03, 2010, 07:19:32 AM
As much as I'm glad to see this over, I note with some regret that only one person has actually been aquitted of the charges, while the others have had the charges dismissed.

To my simple mind there is a significant difference between a decision that beyond a reasonable doubt you are not guilty and a decision to not go forward with a trial of the facts.  And, yes, I do understand the concept of "dismissal with prejudice," which unfortunately I did not read.  (I know, the reportalist either is not a legal beagle or just didn't think it was that important to include, as opposed to it not being stated means it did not happen.)

I quite well understand and appreciate the utter hell that all who were charged have gone through, and truely do not wish to impose more on those who did not go to trial.

But even a directed verdict from the bench seems to provide absolute closure, while mere dismissal leaves open a question of what the final outcome might have been.

All things considered, I wonder how the careers of those involved in attempting to force this issue will be affected.  And I do hope they are affected in some significant way.

stay safe.
Title: Re: The good guy finally wins and will retire. Cleared of Haditha massacre.
Post by: Stand_watie on September 03, 2010, 11:05:28 AM
+1

The same punishment that would have been imposeed for the crime falsely accused.  (logistically speaking, high burden of proof, need to show malice.)

+1 to that. It would make (real) crime victims more credible in court if people who could be proven to be false accusers were punished accordingly.
Title: Re: The good guy finally wins and will retire. Cleared of Haditha massacre.
Post by: HankB on September 03, 2010, 03:17:55 PM
Glad he was cleared, but it looks like he's still suffering early retirement . . . I guess actual innocence only means a reduced (but not eliminated) punishment.

It's a pity the high-ranking careerists (or is the proper term REMFs?) who were behind his persecution are still there, free to do all the damage they can to the military they're supposedly a part of.  :mad:
Title: Re: The good guy finally wins and will retire. Cleared of Haditha massacre.
Post by: Hawkmoon on September 03, 2010, 08:40:13 PM
Murtha is ultimately responsible, and Murtha is a hot steamin' pile ...
Title: Re: The good guy finally wins and will retire. Cleared of Haditha massacre.
Post by: RevDisk on September 03, 2010, 11:07:36 PM
The mendacity involved in falsely accusing someone(s) and making their life a living hell ought to be punishable somehow and in some way.

We'd have like, 20 prosecutors left in the entire country.    =D
Title: Re: The good guy finally wins and will retire. Cleared of Haditha massacre.
Post by: Boomhauer on September 03, 2010, 11:10:31 PM
Murtha is ultimately responsible, and Murtha is a hot steamin' pile ...

Well, he is in a hot, steaming area now...

Title: Re: The good guy finally wins and will retire. Cleared of Haditha massacre.
Post by: kgbsquirrel on September 03, 2010, 11:27:52 PM
The mendacity involved in falsely accusing someone(s) and making their life a living hell ought to be punishable somehow and in some way.

"In August 2006, Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich filed a lawsuit against Murtha for character defamation during an ongoing investigation into the Haditha incident. In April 2009 this suit was dismissed by a federal appeals court, which ruled that Murtha could not be sued because he was acting in his official role as a lawmaker when he made the statements."

I wouldn't expect much success for any of the others who were acquitted or had charges dropped even if the *expletive deleted*bag wasn't already six feet under. By the by, SSGT Wuterich is still being tried for negligent homicide.
Title: Re: The good guy finally wins and will retire. Cleared of Haditha massacre.
Post by: roo_ster on September 04, 2010, 09:01:58 AM
"In August 2006, Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich filed a lawsuit against Murtha for character defamation during an ongoing investigation into the Haditha incident. In April 2009 this suit was dismissed by a federal appeals court, which ruled that Murtha could not be sued because he was acting in his official role as a lawmaker when he made the statements."

I wouldn't expect much success for any of the others who were acquitted or had charges dropped even if the *expletive deleted*bag wasn't already six feet under. By the by, SSGT Wuterich is still being tried for negligent homicide.

Sounds like Murtha ought to have has a date with hot feathers, tar, & a rail to mete out the justice denied by the system rigged to protect him.
Title: Re: The good guy finally wins and will retire. Cleared of Haditha massacre.
Post by: Hawkmoon on September 04, 2010, 10:26:47 AM
We'd have like, 20 prosecutors left in the entire country.    =D

Which would make the world a better place.

Did you have a point?