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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: makattak on November 05, 2010, 10:18:19 AM
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First, San Francisco has banned Happy Meals:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101103/hl_nm/us_mcdonalds_toys
Ok, ok, it's California, and specifically, San Francisco. They're nuts, I'm not concerned.
However, NOW we have lawyers coming after McDonald's for the Happy Meals:
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/san-francisco-s-ban-happy-meals-won-t-af
It's cigarettes part II.
Here's the money quote:
“It is also unfair to their parents because it makes a parent’s job very hard and it inculcates a lifetime of Big Mac Attacks."
Wow. Just wow.
Nope, nothing wrong with our legal system, nothing to see here, move along.
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It is also unfair to their parents because it makes a parent’s job very hard .....
:'( :'(
Boo-hoo....boo - hoo......
:facepalm: Good Grief!
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Good. I hope more places ban them. If the not-very-healthy food weren't bad enough, they are taking advantage of psychological tricks to sell that food to kids. That's not good.
I'm all for marijuana being legalized, but that doesn't mean head shops should offer toys with marijuana in order to appeal to children.
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I didn't know that toys and pretty boxes were psychological tricks. :laugh: I suppose next, we'll ban the mazes on the backs of paper place-mats, and the crayons that go with them.
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McDonalds is probably doing us a favor.
Parents that are so weak that their children whine/bully/manipulate them in to excessive Happy Meals are very likely to fail at other basic parenting tasks and turn out non-useful members of society. The Happy Meal toys mark them for the rest of us.
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Good. I hope more places ban them. If the not-very-healthy food weren't bad enough, they are taking advantage of psychological tricks to sell that food to kids. That's not good.
I'm all for marijuana being legalized, but that doesn't mean head shops should offer toys with marijuana in order to appeal to children.
Wow.
I guess we should start outlawing candy, too. It's not healthy.
Sweet cereals as well. Some of those have TOYS in them!
We can't trust parents to do the right thing. Thus we must outlaw guns junk food. IT'S FOR THE CHILDREN!!!
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I would be quite happy to return to a belief in absolute personal responsibility, along with a belief that islands, and princesses, and God exist, but I can't get there from here. It's magicians all the way down.
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You left out the unicorns.
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I would be quite happy to return to a belief in absolute personal responsibility, along with a belief that islands, and princesses, and God exist, but I can't get there from here. It's magicians all the way down.
Yep. Time to outlaw guns, then. Can't trust people to be responsible.
We really ought to start on cars, too. Don't get me started on those dangerous hazards.
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When they outlaw Happy Meals, only outlaws will have Happy Meals.
=D
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Good. I hope more places ban them. If the not-very-healthy food weren't bad enough, they are taking advantage of psychological tricks to sell that food to kids. That's not good.
You realize that the motives of politicians banning fast food, cigarettes, etc isn't even related one bit to public health, right?
For the Children! is such a nice cover and opposition breaker, though...
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Since when does anything that can be presented as "for the children" automatically become unethical?
Yep. Time to outlaw guns, then. Can't trust people to be responsible.
We really ought to start on cars, too. Don't get me started on those dangerous hazards.
Right, because unhealthy food is very similar to guns and cars.
We don't allow restaurants to lace food with certain toxins even if they'd improve the taste of the food. Why not? Why aren't you all campaigning to allow this?
You realize that the motives of politicians...
Even corrupt, vote-grubbing politicians and mindless tree-hugging liberal groupies are right on occasion. I happen to think this is one of them.
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Since when does anything that can be presented as "for the children" automatically become unethical?
Right, because unhealthy food is very similar to guns and cars.
We don't allow restaurants to lace food with certain toxins even if they'd improve the taste of the food. Why not? Why aren't you all campaigning to allow this?
Why do you hate the poor?
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We don't allow restaurants to lace food with certain toxins even if they'd improve the taste of the food. Why not? Why aren't you all campaigning to allow this?
McDonald's food, despite what many think, is not actually toxic. It's unhealthy in large quanities. Which falls squarely in my "No *expletive deleted*it." catagory.
If people want to be fat, and raise fat children, who enjoy McRib's that's their buisness. And neither you, nor I , nor the Gov. of San Fran has any buisness getting involved.
I *might* have a little sympathy for this if anyone was trying to say that Happy Meals were a healthy, balanced meal. But that's not happening.
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Good. I hope more places ban them. If the not-very-healthy food weren't bad enough, they are taking advantage of psychological tricks to sell that food to kids. That's not good.
I'm all for marijuana being legalized, but that doesn't mean head shops should offer toys with marijuana in order to appeal to children.
Plenty of people here in northern California feel the exact same way. Which is exactly what is wrong with this state.
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Maybe I give tyme too much credit, but I can't help suspecting he doesn't really mean it. He's just stringing us along until he can compare Happy Meals to, for example, marijuana. And at the end, he points out that banning one is just as stupid and evil as banning the other.
Please?
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I would be quite happy to return to a belief in absolute personal responsibility, along with a belief that islands, and princesses, and God exist, but I can't get there from here. It's magicians all the way down.
Where are you, and why do you claim you can't get there from here? have you tried earth google? Have you stopped at a gas station to get a cheap roadmap? Are you afraid to stop and ask directions?
BTW -- you also left out mermaids. [tinfoil] [popcorn] [popcorn] :lol: :lol: :lol:
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If the not-very-healthy food weren't bad enough, they are taking advantage of psychological tricks to sell that food to kids.
I'm still wondering about this. I presume it refers to the enticing name, the toy, and the kid-friendly packaging (which I think is just a paper bag now). Those are very straight-forward, so I'm trying to figure out how they're a "psychological trick." If some breathless Christian denounced Halloween candy as a psychological trick to interest young people in witchcraft and slutty costumes, I think we would all enjoy laughing at such a person.
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Less then 100 years ago the biggest killer of children was hunger and malnutrition.
Being fat at any time before say 1940 was a sign of wealth and prosperity.
Let the farking parents, parent. And if they do it poorly then the kids can either fail or rise above their parents. Their future is what they make of it. It's not the gorram .gov's job to tell you what can or cannot eat.
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McDonalds is the last refuge for Darwinism.....no wonder the liberals want to outlaw it...
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Happy Meals are a great way to feed and entertain kids from time to time for very little money.
PlayPlaces are, in addition to being magnificent monuments to the concept of minimal-liability play structures, great places for kids to blow off some steam indoors. I've love to have kiddo the older pay outside, but the fifteen month old invariably gets soggy and frozen. Indoor cheap options are good.
Free wi-fi is not bad either, nor is the latest re-design to make the places somewhat attractive and less plastic-y and uncomfortable.
I can out-liberal your "fast food is evil" position with my "Why do you hate poor people?" position any day, no contest. =D
If making unhealthy food fun for kids is evil and should be banned, why isn't there a plan to ban Chuck E. Cheese? Oh, right, it costs $30 for a family to go there and get something to eat and play for a while. Social engineering, of course, is something we (and by we, I mean not me, seein' as how I'm one of the faceless poor people these guys are trying to engineer) do to poor people.
Hm, Whole Foods et al sell organic free-trade chocolates with little bug-themed trading cards. Better outlaw those. Wouldn't want little Hayden, Kayden, and Kennedy getting their hands on that stuff and getting the idea that junk food is fun. Oh, right, the legislators will sure their kids get properly shuttled by their nannies to their tennis lessons, so it's ok. It's just The Poor that we (again, we meaning not me) need to protect from themselves.
Stop oppressing the proletariat.
/raving liberal BW alter-ego
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And that's thread win. The lady can't even afford an avatar anymore. And you want to give her a Sad Meal. :'( =)
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And that's thread win. The lady can't even afford an avatar anymore. And you want to give her a Sad Meal. :'( =)
Doubleyew-tee-eff. I didn't even realize it was gone until you said something. I think it was saved to the stbx's photobucket, so not unexpected. It was time. Off to find a new avi.
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Right, because unhealthy food is very similar to guns and cars.
There's nothing unhealthy about McDonalds food.
By which I mean, unlike the stereotype, it contains nothing very diffrent from what you would expect, chmeically, about a hamburger packed between two loaves of bread. It's a piece of meat between two loaves of bread.
There's nothing wrong about eating at McDonalds unless you eat there too often and maintain a sedentary lifestyle. If you take meat home, cook it, place it between two slabs of bread and wolf-down the entire thing ever day and then refuse to move, guess what? You're going to get fat. And eventually sick.
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I would be quite happy to return to a belief in absolute personal responsibility, along with a belief that islands, and princesses, and God exist, but I can't get there from here.
Let's try this one.
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"The San Francisco law would allow toys to be given away with kids' meals that have less than 600 calories, contain fruits and vegetables, and include beverages without excessive fat or sugar."
So, you can give a toy with a veggie burger and a bottle of Shiner, but not with a little-bitty real burger, fries and a soda?
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"The San Francisco law would allow toys to be given away with kids' meals that have less than 600 calories, contain fruits and vegetables, and include beverages without excessive fat or sugar."
So, you can give a toy with a veggie burger and a bottle of Shiner, but not with a little-bitty real burger, fries and a soda?
I'm guessing chocolate milk is "excessive fat." My poor scrawny kid, beset on all sides by well-meaning people trying to get her to drink reduced-fat milk. Kid is in something like the tenth percentile for weight, but .gov wants me to give her 2% milk because too many other kids are fat and lazy. Nice.
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What is the essence of the modern welfare state but one big "happy meal?"
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Let's try this one.
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God: not pictured
Fixed.
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since fistful wanted it added......
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Your god is a hippy. Why am I not surprised. ;/ :P
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Heretics. Ye shall know God:
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And that's thread win. The lady can't even afford an avatar anymore. And you want to give her a Sad Meal. :'( =)
LMAO.
But, yeah, what BW wrote...with bells on it.
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I'm guessing chocolate milk is "excessive fat." My poor scrawny kid, beset on all sides by well-meaning people trying to get her to drink reduced-fat milk. Kid is in something like the tenth percentile for weight, but .gov wants me to give her 2% milk because too many other kids are fat and lazy. Nice.
My 4YO daughter is in the same boat. She is off the charts to the left, mass-wise. She makes up for it in rage personality and spunk.
Your god is a hippy. Why am I not surprised. ;/ :P
But, he gets points for being a tiger killin' hippy. Or Navi.
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Heretics. Ye shall know God:
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Well played.
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Heretics. Ye shall know God:
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[barf] [barf]
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Happiness,
Is a warm meal
Munch, munch, chew, chew
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Like BW and Roo_ster, my kids are way underweight as well. Our family doc even tells us to let them eat what they want and drink as much whole milk as they'd like (as long as it isn't replacing a meal).
I just bought my 2yo a Chicken Nugget w/fries Happy Meal while we were out running errands. I counted the calories. Including the chocolate milk, the total was 590. Fat, Sodium, etc were within reason as well. You could eat much worse at a "sit down" restaurant. And spend more money...
Chris
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Like BW and Roo_ster, my kids are way underweight as well. Our family doc even tells us to let them eat what they want and drink as much whole milk as they'd like (as long as it isn't replacing a meal).
I just bought my 2yo a Chicken Nugget w/fries Happy Meal while we were out running errands. I counted the calories. Including the chocolate milk, the total was 590. Fat, Sodium, etc were within reason as well. You could eat much worse at a "sit down" restaurant. And spend more money...
Chris
Sorry, but chickens don't have nuggets, only roosters do. =D
Both my girls are extremely skinny and it's all we can do to put any weight on them. They drink a gallon of whole milk a piece.
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I was very underweight in high school (and college), and my doctor actually recommended I drink malts. Fortunately for me, I worked at a fast food restaurant for a year, and could have 3-4 a day for free.
They can pry my malt from my cold, skinny fingers.
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I was very underweight in high school (and college), and my doctor actually recommended I drink malts. Fortunately for me, I worked at a fast food restaurant for a year, and could have 3-4 a day for free.
They can pry my malt from my cold, skinny fingers.
Malt? Like Colt .45? Or is that another name for milkshake?
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Malt? Like Colt .45? Or is that another name for milkshake?
Heathen!
Malt. As in ice cream, milk, malt powder or syrup...blend and enjoy.
Shakes (without malt) are a pathetic shadow of the real thing.
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I rather call such arguments against fast food, quite simply, BS. They are the same food you will find anywhere else, in a ratio that has been found customers rather enjoy. The meat is still meat, the fries are still potatoes, the toppings are exactly the same. Now, quality may be a valid argument. The beef in your big mac isn't as high as the 27+ fancy burger in some expensive restaurants. The buns maybe have a few extra preservatives, but probably no more then any other mass produced bun/bread that isn't specifically marketed as low/no preservative.
But nutrition? Nope. Simply no appreciable different between eating out anywhere else. You can find healthy food at home. You can find healthy food and specialty restaurants. You can find relatively healthy food specially marked on the menu, at both sit down and fast food restaurants.
Take a look at some of the nutritional info from larger sit down restaurants. Let's look at...Applebee's just for the sake of comparison.
Grilled Shrimp and Spinach salad. Sounds healthy right? I mean. It's grilled shrimp, not fried. That's good right? Spinach! Everyone knows spinach is great for you. Salads, salads are healthy food options when you eat out.
Lets also take a look at a pretty standard Mcdonalds meal...say a big mac and a large fry. Mmm greasy, low quality fatty meat. Deep fried potatoes. Cheap toppings. Heart attack in a sack man!
So if I told you we were talking about 1050 calories, 72 grams of fat, 11 grams of saturated fat, 2530 mg of sodium...would you think we we're talking about a grilled shrimp and spinach salad or a big mac value meal?
If you guessed the big mac, you'd be wrong. Those are the stats from Applebee's website nutrition guide for their grilled shrimp and spinach salad. For the record and sake of comparison the big mac and large fries is 1040 calories 54 grams of fat 14 grams of sat fat and 1390mg of sodium. Based on the numbers people tend to ZOMG EVIL BAD FOOD FOR YOU......THE BIG MAC AND LARGE FRY IS BETTER FOR YOU THEN A GRILLED SHRIMP AND SPINACH SALAD. The AB's grilled oriental chicken salad? Even worse for you. 1310 calories 93 grams of fat 15 grams of sat fat 2.5 grams of trans fat (big mac meal above rings in at 1.5) and 1470mg of sodium. Now we're beating the big mac and large fry in every. single. category. WITH A FREAKING SALAD. Something specifically on the menu to make people feel good about themselves when they go out to eat. A big mac and salad w/ranch dressing is only 730 calories 44 grams of fat 13 grams of saturated fat and 1580mg of sodium, now we're talking some comparatively healthy eats!
Point isn't that AB's are a bunch of lying *expletive deleted*che bags, the stats are similar to anyone else. And it certainly isn't to say woofing down a big mac and large fry on a nightly basis is a good idea. Point is that eating out, unless you are very selective and stick very closely to the "healthy" options, isn't all that healthy anywhere. And even then it is relatively unhealthy to what you can do at home. And I find picking on fast food establishments to be ridiculous. If anything your average fast food restaurant is fairly honest and open that their food isn't the healthiest thing on the face of the planet, much more so than your average sit down chain. If anything, I'd call the sit down chain more dishonest for loading down healthy looking things like a salad to the point they are literally worse for you then a big mac value meal. Wanna talk psychological sales tricks? Any idiot knows a big mac value meal is bad for you. Put a salad in front of most anyone though and the healthy meter goes off.
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I rather call such arguments against fast food, quite simply, BS. They are the same food you will find anywhere else, in a ratio that has been found customers rather enjoy. The meat is still meat, the fries are still potatoes, the toppings are exactly the same. Now, quality may be a valid argument. The beef in your big mac isn't as high as the 27+ fancy burger in some expensive restaurants. The buns maybe have a few extra preservatives, but probably no more then any other mass produced bun/bread that isn't specifically marketed as low/no preservative.
Yep.
I put the liberal spin on it up above, but the libertarian spin is that it's about punishing McD's or being so ubiquitous aka successful.
And the human spin is that it's more fun to attack stuff you aren't attached to. No legislator values Happy Meals, but many do enjoy being able to grab a dinner at Applebee's et al.
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>I was very underweight<
What do you mean, "was"?
Yer still a skinny lil' runt, bro! >:D
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You folks supporting this make me wonder if I'm on the right forum. ;/
I can count on the fingers of one hand the times we have been to McDonald's in the last ten years. Personally, I don't consider their fare to be "food" in the classic sense of the word but... it does fill an occasional need. Kiddo always enjoyed our rare trips to McDonalds.
Keep your *&^%^&*%$&*! nanny-state intrusion the hell away from me. I hope "freedom" like this stays in it's cesspool.
That's from my Facebook post.
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Honestly folks... what will be legislated next?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITPTJzPv4J8&feature=related
You see, according to Cocteau's plan, I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think; I like to read.
I'm into freedom of speech and freedom of choice.
I'm the kind of guy who likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecued ribs with the side order of gravy fries?" I WANT high cholesterol. I wanna eat bacon and butter and BUCKETS of cheese, okay?
I want to smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section. I want to run through the streets naked with green Jell-o all over my body reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly might feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future.
Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiener".
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If folks in SF can't parent, that's not my problem. Stay the F888 out of my affairs.
You know what? Outlaw dumb parents, instead.
CA is broke, yet they spend $$$$$$$$
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2010/08/23/july-la-school-officials-defended-rfk-taj-mahal-more-justified
on infrastructure and then tout crap like this?
[barf] [barf] [barf]
CA is a cesspool, and always will be.
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How many folks with children actually support this nonsense?
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You could eat much worse at a "sit down" restaurant. And spend more money...
My Dad's been known to order a Happy Meal, just because it's a modest amount of chow, and comes with a toy he can give to the grand-kids.
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You see, according to Cocteau's plan, I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think; I like to read.
I'm into freedom of speech and freedom of choice.
I'm the kind of guy who likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecued ribs with the side order of gravy fries?" I WANT high cholesterol. I wanna eat bacon and butter and BUCKETS of cheese, okay?
I want to smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section. I want to run through the streets naked with green Jell-o all over my body reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly might feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future.
Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiener".
:lol:
This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pSEMNEqQJI) is the link to that speech, FWIW.
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So if I told you we were talking about 1050 calories, 72 grams of fat, 11 grams of saturated fat, 2530 mg of sodium...
...I'd say that sounds like breakfast.
Last I checked, I eat between 2500 and 3200 calories a day without gaining weight, and I don't really watch the sodium either, since I usually crave salt after exertion. When I was Happy Meal age, I probably burned off those calories within an hour after eating it. Get the kids off their butts and send them out to play.
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...I'd say that sounds like breakfast.
Last I checked, I eat between 2500 and 3200 calories a day without gaining weight, and I don't really watch the sodium either, since I usually crave salt after exertion. When I was Happy Meal age, I probably burned off those calories within an hour after eating it. Get the kids off their butts and send them out to play.
But, but...little Timmy might get dirty. Or scrub his knees. Or be exposed to pollen. Dontcha know that kids of today are fragile little things in a world full of dangers all out to hurt them?
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is "psychological trick" a new buzzword for successful marketing?
you know the first "trick " mcd's used? the napkins and straws. they were the first to put em out where the customers could get at em. they found kids loved getting the napkins and straws and that anyplace that made the kids happy owned mom and dad. my kids are rail thin too and they eat lots of "bad things". i was the junkfood junkie and was a 28 inch waist till i was 41.
i try to keep em outa sodas and into milk and juice but my lids think that lowfat milk tastes bad
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...I'd say that sounds like breakfast.
Last I checked, I eat between 2500 and 3200 calories a day without gaining weight, and I don't really watch the sodium either, since I usually crave salt after exertion. When I was Happy Meal age, I probably burned off those calories within an hour after eating it. Get the kids off their butts and send them out to play.
And for a good breakfast you might not be far off.
Point is simply that a big mac doesn't warrant picking on
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Biggest source of fats in most foods is the heavy, mayo-based sauces that get served on them for "flavor" (i.e. covering up poor ingredients). When I get a Big Mac (which is rare), I always swap the "special sauce" for mustard (no fat or calories, but lots of flavor). Cuts a significant amount of calories off. Same thing with salads...go for the low-fat ones instead of the Honey Mustard or Ranch or Thousand Islands.....
Also, french fries are just sponges for fat w/o any nutritional value...you're better off getting a second burger than a side of fries...
McDonalds can be a healthy place to eat...if you're smart about it....hence the "Darwinism" post earlier....
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Point is simply that a big mac doesn't warrant picking on
Or eating, for that matter.
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It's been over 20 years since I've eaten at McDonalds. I once removed the "meat" patty from a Big Mac and tried eating it sans bun, cheese or sauce. I wouldn't recommend that to anyone.
That said, if someone wants to eat a 300-calorie piece of tire rubber, that's their business. Last night I ate a 14-inch, 3000 calorie pizza (2500 for the pizza, 500 for the extra cheese I added). If the food police had their way, I'd be in prison for doing that.
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My Dad's been known to order a Happy Meal, just because it's a modest amount of chow, and comes with a toy he can give to the grand-kids.
same here but the toys go to my own kids.
Chris
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same here but the toys go to my own kids.
Chris
Don't you know those things'll kill ya?
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Isn't getting calories the whole point of eating food ???
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Isn't getting calories the whole point of eating food ???
Yes, but if you only burn 2k/day and you're eating 3k+ because you're eating calorie rich restaurant food, you'll end up fat. The idea is to eat lower calorie foods when possible so you're less likely to take in more calories than you burn.
Chris
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Yes, but if you only burn 2k/day and you're eating 3k+ because you're eating calorie rich restaurant food, you'll end up fat. The idea is to eat lower calorie foods when possible so you're less likely to take in more calories than you burn.
Chris
I'm just lucky if I can keep even.... ;/
I don't really eat much anymore, though - back when I was logging I think I ate 6-8K calories per day :P