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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: T.O.M. on December 02, 2010, 12:12:19 PM
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This is turning into one of those days when I'm seriously concerned about the future of the human race.
1. There's a bit of snow/ice on the ground here in central Ohio. It is December after all. I'm behind a car in traffic. We're stopped at a red light. Light turns green, and I watch the little front-wheel drive car in front of me as I hear the tires start to spin on the ice/snow. And I watch as the car starts that slide to the side when the tires are spinning with no real traction. And the car keeps sliding, and I her the engine actually revving up instead of backing off. Sure enough, the tire hits pavement, and the car accellerates rapidly, right over the curb, across the sidewalk, and into a fence. Good news was that there was a cruiser coming towards us, so I could just go on my way, and ignore this idiot.
2. In court, and putting a guy on probation for assault, resisting arrest, and some other minor charges, and tell him that if he violates after he's released from jail today, he can be sent to jail for up to an additional 2 years by the time all of the sentences are added up. He then pipes up, tells his lawyer to shut the f@#k up, and tells me that he's going to kick my f@#king a$$ if he's not home for Christmas. I've already told him he's going home on Probation, and repeat this to him. He tells me to perform a sex act on him involving my mouth, stands up, spits at me, and flips the table over. He gets introduced to the wall, then the foor, while I order the hearing continued, and him remanded to jail until the next hearing in January, 2011.
3. I log on here at lunch and find several PM's about my recent coyote threads. All names have been removed to protect the innocent and guilty alike. One advises me that I should just carry my shotgun around during our walks, as it is useful against coyotes, snakes, and two legged varmin. Another suggests that I get proactive and start shooting coyotes as I see them with a .22 rifle. A third recommends that I might want to think about getting a .223 rifle, like an M4, to carry during walks because it's got the longer range to be effective against coyotes as they run back to the pack. A fourth berates me, and says that if it wasn't for treehuggers like me who don't want to hurt some animal who tries to attack me or my dog, there wouldn't be a problem with coyotes. A fifth told me I might want to consider getting a CCW permit and carry a pistol just in case.
Maybe I'm just having one of those days, but did someone declare today to be act like an idiot day???
Rant off, back to my ham and salami sandwich.
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Real men carry Garands on their dog walks.
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3. I log on here at lunch and find several PM's about my recent coyote threads. All names have been removed to protect the innocent and guilty alike. One advises me that I should just carry my shotgun around during our walks, as it is useful against coyotes, snakes, and two legged varmin. Another suggests that I get proactive and start shooting coyotes as I see them with a .22 rifle. A third recommends that I might want to think about getting a .223 rifle, like an M4, to carry during walks because it's got the longer range to be effective against coyotes as they run back to the pack. A fourth berates me, and says that if it wasn't for treehuggers like me who don't want to hurt some animal who tries to attack me or my dog, there wouldn't be a problem with coyotes. A fifth told me I might want to consider getting a CCW permit and carry a pistol just in case.
Maybe I'm just having one of those days, but did someone declare today to be act like an idiot day???
Rant off, back to my ham and salami sandwich.
Hey, I'm insulted:
Why no inclusion of my suggestion of a detcord collar as a last resort for your dog if the pack gets him?
Ohhhh, you were only listing bad ideas, my mistake.
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2. In court, and putting a guy on probation for assault, resisting arrest, and some other minor charges, and tell him that if he violates after he's released from jail today, he can be sent to jail for up to an additional 2 years by the time all of the sentences are added up. He then pipes up, tells his lawyer to shut the f@#k up, and tells me that he's going to kick my f@#king a$$ if he's not home for Christmas. I've already told him he's going home on Probation, and repeat this to him. He tells me to perform a sex act on him involving my mouth, stands up, spits at me, and flips the table over. He gets introduced to the wall, then the foor, while I order the hearing continued, and him remanded to jail until the next hearing in January, 2011.
It's probably not something that falls within the realm of professional decorum for one in your position, but if I were in your shoes, I might be just the eensiest bit tempted to send the lad a Christmas care package containing a picture of my arse and a note saying "sorry you won't have the opportunity to kick it. Here, kiss it, instead."
That would probably be a Wrong Thing to do.
I know that because all of the Wrong Things come from the voice behind my left shoulder.
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Well - when driving to town yesterday I had to pull over several times to let people pass because I refused to drive faster than 45-50mph on the ice covered road. ;/
Sometimes I think the whole world is insane exept for me, and that's driving me crazy ;)
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1. There's a bit of snow/ice on the ground here in central Ohio. It is December after all. I'm behind a car in traffic. We're stopped at a red light. Light turns green, and I watch the little front-wheel drive car in front of me as I hear the tires start to spin on the ice/snow. And I watch as the car starts that slide to the side when the tires are spinning with no real traction. And the car keeps sliding, and I her the engine actually revving up instead of backing off. Sure enough, the tire hits pavement, and the car accellerates rapidly, right over the curb, across the sidewalk, and into a fence. Good news was that there was a cruiser coming towards us, so I could just go on my way, and ignore this idiot.
There's a long hill on northbound Kipling before it gets to 38th Avenue. Every time it snows, there's a couple of "The car wouldn't stop" accidents coming down that hill.
No. You couldn't make the car stop because you were driving too fast for conditions.
2. In court, and putting a guy on probation for assault, resisting arrest, and some other minor charges, and tell him that if he violates after he's released from jail today, he can be sent to jail for up to an additional 2 years by the time all of the sentences are added up. He then pipes up, tells his lawyer to shut the f@#k up, and tells me that he's going to kick my f@#king a$$ if he's not home for Christmas. I've already told him he's going home on Probation, and repeat this to him. He tells me to perform a sex act on him involving my mouth, stands up, spits at me, and flips the table over. He gets introduced to the wall, then the foor, while I order the hearing continued, and him remanded to jail until the next hearing in January, 2011.
Now, that's what I call "swift and terrible justice."
You're wrong, by the way. This is "Idiot Week."
Terry, 230RN
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Having grown up and lived in various Snow Belt cities, I can relate to the first incident - I call them "Digital Drivers" - on icy surfaces, either the brake or the gas pedal are pressed to the floor, there's no in between.
As far as Incident 2 is concerned . . . having served as a juror a couple of times and watched people represent themselves in court, I know there are some amazingly stupid people, but this is beyond the pale . . . maybe the perp's home situation is such that he actually prefers a jail cell?
. . . A fifth told me I might want to consider getting a CCW permit and carry a pistol just in case.
What's wrong with that idea - and not just for coyotes? Having a CCW doesn't mean you're going to become a trigger happy dolt, it just means you'll be discretely prepared, and have a choice of how to react. (It worked for the Governor of Texas.)
Well - when driving to town yesterday I had to pull over several times to let people pass because I refused to drive faster than 45-50mph on the ice covered road. ;/
Once when driving from MN to IL through WI, I was driving about 35 in a 70 zone in the lane that was least icy. A moron, after honking his horn at me to pull over onto the worse part of the interstate so he could pass (fat chance!) eventually roared by, flipping me the bird as he did so.
I caught up to him about 5 miles later . . . his car was spanning the ditch alongside the road, supported by the front and rear bumpers. A State Trooper was approaching, so I drove on, thinking "Karma is REAL!!! =D
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I caught up to him about 5 miles later . . . his car was spanning the ditch alongside the road
29 years ago, my new bride and I drove about 40 miles to pick up her brother at a nearby town. He was coming home from college and that was as far as his other took him. It was the evening before thanksgiving and both the traffic and the roads were horrible. Lots of cars slid off the road everywhere but I kept plugging along in her old VW bug, scraping ice off the inside of windshield.
We were heading back and almost home when another car came up in the left lane to pass. He got directly even with me when I hear this awful scraping scratching noise. I looked left and saw the short distance between our car and his slowly increase until he hit the soft snow at the edge and spun around. =D
I wasn't going to stop out there for anything! >:D
It was within walking distance to an exit and phones.
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Coyote Option 3a. Carry an M4gery with a AOW shorty Rem 870 12ga slung where the M203 would go. And a tactical wheelbarrow.
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I'm afraid it may be catching. Just dropped a speedloader in the toilet, right before I flushed. Good thing I've got more ammo, and HKS loaders are cheap.
Funny thing about the coyote deal. I was just looking for info about behaviors, if they are skittish, etc., not the crap you read on Wiki/PETA/etc. I know some of you have real experience, so I was looking for that information. Yet so many people took it as "I want to hunt coyotes with my dog," or missed the "I live in the suburbs." Can't carry a long gun in the suburbs without getting lots of unwanted attention from the local PD, and probably the SWAT team at that. Even if I could, I'd worry about touching off a .223 round when the houses are that close together. A shotgun, maybe with smaller shot...maybe I should think about a Taurus Judge, or a cruiser model Mossberg and a leather trenchcoat. =D
I have a CCW permit, thank you very much. And, I only hug trees after way to much to drink. :laugh:
The now jailbird is in solitary...head-butted a deputy on arrival at the jail. Now facing felony charges.
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maybe I should think about a Taurus Judge
FTFY.
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The now jailbird is in solitary...head-butted a deputy on arrival at the jail. Now facing felony charges.
You must have a nice jail, for the perp to like it so much he doesn't want to leave. ;/
As for hugging trees . . . even after way too much to drink, don't hug them below, say, waist level of the previous inebriated man . . . you know, the one who was, uh, done with his beer. :O
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"The now jailbird is in solitary...head-butted a deputy on arrival at the jail. Now facing felony charges."
Somewhat slower but even terribler justice.
Good thing you offered him probation, but it sounds as if this guy has a "why can't we all just get along?" problem and shouldn't be on the streets anyhow.
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A shotgun, maybe with smaller shot...maybe I should think about a Taurus Judge, or a cruiser model Mossberg and a leather trenchcoat.
Which is why I said that it's a pity that a sawed off (maybe 6" barrel?) is such legal hassle. If you had to shoot one in the suburbs, shot is a better option that either handgun or rifle.
The thing about coyotes is that they are infinitely adaptable, and there's really no predicting them at all. They usually run away, unless they don't. Lately I've seen more and more that just stand and look at you, like "oh yeah? whatcha gonna do...? :P "
Before (when was it ... earlier this year?) I would never have believed that coyotes would kill a healthy adult - even a petite and pretty folksinger :O
I don't want them to be eradicated, but I shoot every one that I get the chance, which isn't very often.
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Funny thing about the coyote deal. I was just looking for info about behaviors, if they are skittish, etc., not the crap you read on Wiki/PETA/etc. I know some of you have real experience, so I was looking for that information. Yet so many people took it as "I want to hunt coyotes with my dog," or missed the "I live in the suburbs." Can't carry a long gun in the suburbs without getting lots of unwanted attention from the local PD, and probably the SWAT team at that. Even if I could, I'd worry about touching off a .223 round when the houses are that close together. A shotgun, maybe with smaller shot...maybe I should think about a Taurus Judge, or a cruiser model Mossberg and a leather trenchcoat. =D
I have a CCW permit, thank you very much. And, I only hug trees after way to much to drink. :laugh:
The now jailbird is in solitary...head-butted a deputy on arrival at the jail. Now facing felony charges.
Sorry about the coyote thread. Even here, folks can be hard of understanding. Don't take it too hard, it's still better than most of humanity.
As for the guy, brilliant. Truly. Sober?
I have a semiserious question. I understand most (all?) courts transcript the proceedings. Do they include things like the comments the guy made?
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Sorry about the coyote thread. Even here, folks can be hard of understanding. Don't take it too hard, it's still better than most of humanity.
As for the guy, brilliant. Truly. Sober?
I have a semiserious question. I understand most (all?) courts transcript the proceedings. Do they include things like the comments the guy made?
In order of presentation: I like it here very much, which is why I keep posting my gun questions here. Better answers, and fewer negative comments about my decision to only carry a .380/.39/9mm, etc.
Yes he was sober today, after spending the last three weeks in jail. Just dumb or crazy.
As for transcripts, yep. Every word. We use digital recordings on a computer, then pay for transcripts as needed. If the files weren't protected, I'd try making an MP3 of some of teh "greatest hits" and posting for all of your amusement...
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Ohhhh, mannnn, I can't resist.... Please forgive me, yeronner, but...
380/.39/9mm, etc.
Probation? Please? I've got to be home at Christmas.
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And I promise not to carry my .46 any more and will run out and buy a .39 right away.
I'm not signing this one so nobody (especially hizonner) will know who posted it.
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Chris, after reading your story, I wonder if some of you judge-types are just in it for the lulz.
Maybe I'm just having one of those days, but did someone declare today to be act like an idiot day???
I used to have trouble remembering which day to act like an idiot. So now I just do it every day.
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Drivers are nutz. Twice within he past week I have encountered enough loonies on the streets that I have commented to my wife that the locals are celebrating "Get Hawkmoon Day" way too often.
As for the coyotes, I am following the advice closely. My issue is slightly different. We also live in a 'burb. Coyotes have entered the area as of a couple/few years ago, and my wife and I are now the custodians of her granddaughter's toy poodle. I've fenced in an area of the front yard so the toodle can "go" without our worrying that she'll run off, but I don't think the fence is enough to stop a hungry 'yote. So I keep reminding my wife not to let the toodle out during the day unless she keeps an eye on her, and at night I stand armed guard.
I'm trying to decide whether it would be a good idea or a Very Bad Idea to bait the 'yotes into the yard so I'd have an excuse to terminate them with prejudice.
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Is there any way that you could sentence the guy to a few years of remedial education classes? I highly doubt he even knew what probation means.
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i suspect he and his peers know quite a bit about probation and parole
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i suspect he and his peers know quite a bit about probation and parole
This. I'm thinking batshit crazy was involved, and maybe some drugs/withdrawls.
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or hes a real punk and was trying to build some rep before they send him to the country. hoping that this time he wouldn't have to write to mom and ask her to send makeup and pantyhose to him
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This. I'm thinking bat**it crazy was involved, and maybe some drugs/withdrawls.
I'm thinking he's a guy with phenomenally poor judgment and a tendency to commit violence. Hence the assault charge, then head-butting a deputy.
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Well - when driving to town yesterday I had to pull over several times to let people pass because I refused to drive faster than 45-50mph on the ice covered road. ;/
Sometimes I think the whole world is insane exept for me, and that's driving me crazy ;)
Did you create a traffic jam in your town?
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People are kinda like weather....you just have to dress properly. I want to believe that every day will be mild and sunny....but I always prepare myself for some kind of *expletive deleted*it to fall from the sky.
Most folks are pretty decent, but there certainly is no shortage of idiots. Working in the court system, I'm sure you see the less-than-gifted on a regular basis. I had to go down to Children's hospital in Columbus this week - OMG -it was raining creatons in the waiting room down there. The health care problem could be solved with the money those people had spent on tattoos. It does make you wonder. Motivated me to buy a new (to me) Sig and more ammo today.
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2. In court, and putting a guy on probation for assault, resisting arrest, and some other minor charges, and tell him that if he violates after he's released from jail today, he can be sent to jail for up to an additional 2 years by the time all of the sentences are added up. He then pipes up, tells his lawyer to shut the f@#k up, and tells me that he's going to kick my f@#king a$$ if he's not home for Christmas. I've already told him he's going home on Probation, and repeat this to him. He tells me to perform a sex act on him involving my mouth, stands up, spits at me, and flips the table over. He gets introduced to the wall, then the foor, while I order the hearing continued, and him remanded to jail until the next hearing in January, 2011.
I especially liked this one. :angel:
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While I'm generally opposed to their use in LE I'd love to hear how well the tasers worked on your new friend. Or did they skip that and move straight to a "Gee I hope no one is filming this" good old fashioned beat-down? Either way, his bill probably isn't paid yet, wake him up and hit him again. :police:
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As for transcripts, yep. Every word. We use digital recordings on a computer, then pay for transcripts as needed. If the files weren't protected, I'd try making an MP3 of some of teh "greatest hits" and posting for all of your amusement...
I thought court transcripts were public record unless sealed?
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This is turning into one of those days when I'm seriously concerned about the future of the human race.
2. In court, and putting a guy on probation for assault, resisting arrest, and some other minor charges, and tell him that if he violates after he's released from jail today, he can be sent to jail for up to an additional 2 years by the time all of the sentences are added up. He then pipes up, tells his lawyer to shut the f@#k up, and tells me that he's going to kick my f@#king a$$ if he's not home for Christmas. I've already told him he's going home on Probation, and repeat this to him. He tells me to perform a sex act on him involving my mouth, stands up, spits at me, and flips the table over. He gets introduced to the wall, then the foor, while I order the hearing continued, and him remanded to jail until the next hearing in January, 2011.
Some people just don't know when to shut up..... :facepalm:
3. I log on here at lunch and find several PM's about my recent coyote threads. All names have been removed to protect the innocent and guilty alike. One advises me that I should just carry my shotgun around during our walks, as it is useful against coyotes, snakes, and two legged varmin. Another suggests that I get proactive and start shooting coyotes as I see them with a .22 rifle. A third recommends that I might want to think about getting a .223 rifle, like an M4, to carry during walks because it's got the longer range to be effective against coyotes as they run back to the pack. A fourth berates me, and says that if it wasn't for treehuggers like me who don't want to hurt some animal who tries to attack me or my dog, there wouldn't be a problem with coyotes. A fifth told me I might want to consider getting a CCW permit and carry a pistol just in case.
Gunwriter Michael Bane often takes a Bond Arms .410 derringer with him on his dog walks. I'd imagine a birdshot round would scare off any coyotes...and a buckshot round wouldn't leave them time to be scared....
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3. I log on here at lunch and find several PM's about my recent coyote threads. All names have been removed to protect the innocent and guilty alike. One advises me that I should just carry my shotgun around during our walks, as it is useful against coyotes, snakes, and two legged varmin. Another suggests that I get proactive and start shooting coyotes as I see them with a .22 rifle. A third recommends that I might want to think about getting a .223 rifle, like an M4, to carry during walks because it's got the longer range to be effective against coyotes as they run back to the pack. A fourth berates me, and says that if it wasn't for treehuggers like me who don't want to hurt some animal who tries to attack me or my dog, there wouldn't be a problem with coyotes. A fifth told me I might want to consider getting a CCW permit and carry a pistol just in case.
Yeesh. Everyone knows the .223 is only good for shooting poodles, what you need to carry is an M-14 clone or FAL. Some people's kids. ;/
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Gunwriter Michael Bane often takes a Bond Arms .410 derringer with him on his dog walks. I'd imagine a birdshot round would scare off any coyotes...and a buckshot round wouldn't leave them time to be scared....
A derringer? I thought there was the possibility of a pack somewhere in the near distance.
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Late to the thread, but:
1) I seem to go weeks without seeing crappy drivers, then all of the sudden in one day, usually on my way to work, the crappy drivers come out of the woodwork and are all in the cars closest to me.
2) I know it wasn't fun for you to deal with, but I couldn't help laughing out loud when I read that. If he wasn't doing it as part of a tough guy routine (or even if he was) I can't help picturing him butting his head against the wall of his cell as he recalls his stupidity (or learns about it when his lawyer tells him what "probation" means), especially as December 25 approaches. :)
3) I think I mentioned in your coyote thread how a hunting guide berated me for not shooting coyotes while I was hunting pigs. He also seemed to think I was some kind of enviro or something, versus a guy who just hunts what he eats. I've actually noticed some (though not the majority of) varmint hunters can actually be a bit like enviros. Just like when an enviro gets in my face about why I drive a truck instead of a Prius. Even though when I explain the "hunt/eat" thing, most guys will be cool, some, like the pig guide, will pull an enviro style rant about my not killing them on sight. I figure if a guy wants to shoot a coyote, that's his business and okay with me. If I don't, the same should apply.
PS - I did shoot a coyote that killed my mom and sister's cats. I didn't eat him.
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The health care problem could be solved with the money those people had spent on tattoos. It does make you wonder.
That has always been my main anger point. If you can budget $$ for tats, rims for your car, cigs, or bling bling teeth, you can save for emergencies and then others would not have to subsidize your ass.
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That has always been my main anger point. If you can budget $$ for tats, rims for your car, cigs, or bling bling teeth, you can save for emergencies and then others would not have to subsidize your ass.
This reminded me of a saying we have in healthcare, in EMS or the emergency room: the tooth to tattoo ratio. The less teeth you have or the more tattoos you have, the more indestructible the patient seems. They shrug off trauma that would kill lesser people.
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I thought court transcripts were public record unless sealed?
They are. When I said protected, I meant the software. I tried a couple of times to make soundfiles, and there's something about this software that indicates the file is copy protected, and won't let me convert it to MP3.
Not a legal issue. More like a "lack of computer savy" issue on my part.
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You mentioned a problem with losing an HKS loader. I was lusting after an 8 shot 357 revolver S&W makes. They are apparently cutting the pro-series pistols to be able to use moon clips. IMO, that makes using and reloading revolvers a hell of a lot easier and faster.
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Having had the subject of the speedloader mentioned again, I will confess to an abiding curiosity as to how it came to suffer such ignominy.
The story, please.
stay safe.
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Having had the subject of the speedloader mentioned again, I will confess to an abiding curiosity as to how it came to suffer such ignominy.
The story, please.
stay safe.
And its fate. Was it consigned to the deeps of the sewers, or was it retrieved and (hopefully) rinsed off?
=D
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PS - I did shoot a coyote that killed my mom and sister's cats. I didn't eat him.
If a coyote killed my sister's cats I would let it go, but killing my mom is where I draw the line.
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^ Dam!
What, do I hafta stay on line 60/60/24/7/365.25?
Blast! Beat me to it, CNYCacher. I, too, hate dangling modifiers or whatever you call 'em.
Terry, :facepalm: , 230RN
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Grammar Nazis. :P :laugh:
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That has always been my main anger point. If you can budget $$ for tats, rims for your car, cigs, or bling bling teeth, you can save for emergencies and then others would not have to subsidize your ass.
That's the thing, they aren't budgeting for em. They have a three-paycheck month and go "whulllooook! I got some extra money. I have been fiscooally responsible. I deserve a present!"
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Late to the thread, but:
PS - I did shoot a coyote that killed my mom and sister's cats. I didn't eat him.
to bad, the yotes here are to afraid to eat our cats, I need the one that bit me eaten by a yote because missus ranch owner is found of it so I'm not allowed to shoot it.
Tallpine, http://www.spinner.com/2009/10/29/folk-singer-taylor-mitchell-killed-by-coyotes/?icid=main
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Grammar Nazis. :P :laugh:
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Grammar Nazis. :P :laugh:
Bad grammar is something up with which I will not put. (BTW, I, too, would not have harmed a cat-eating coyote. "Good Doggy!" =D )
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(BTW, I, too, would not have harmed a cat-eating coyote. "Good Doggy!" =D )
Normally I wouldn't either, but Ma and sis were crying. Plus he took the cats in my folks' yard, which crossed way over the "You leave me alone and I'll leave you alone" line. :)
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They are. When I said protected, I meant the software. I tried a couple of times to make soundfiles, and there's something about this software that indicates the file is copy protected, and won't let me convert it to MP3.
Not a legal issue. More like a "lack of computer savy" issue on my part.
Heh, some folks could fix that in short order...
Burn it to CD. Send. We'll sort it out for ya.
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Saw a coyote the other night, here:
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Where one is manifestly NOT allowed to carry a loaded firearm.
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Grammar Nazis. :P :laugh:
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Sorry....you really need to work on that lisp....
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Ben: a lot of people who live in areas seriously affected by coyotes (or feral cats, wild boars etc) view destruction of varmints as a civic duty. In Germany (I'm told) it's actually a legal requirement for hunters to kill all feral cats they see in the woods. Not saying I agree but just providing a possible rationale. :)
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I aint no gramer nazi. It wuz jist the way it red. wuz I rite that it wuz a dangling modifier. ?
One of these days I've got to check on local regs and bounties on shooting coyotes. We're in transitional multi-family/agricultural zoning, and I've sure seen some juicy, safe shots at them from my balcony. The fox population around here has gone down in the last two or so years, and the coyote population has gone up, by my casual observation.
Used to be a $25 bounty on them from the Extension Agency, subsidized by the farm and ranch organizations. But maybe Colorado has got too "civilized" for the bounty to still exist.
Anyhow, $25 used to buy a lot of groceries. I wonder if that counts in terms of "not killing something you don't eat," if the killing can buy groceries. Sort of a second-degree "hunting for the table."
Terry, 230RN
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We have a feral cat problem here. Too warm to kill them off in the winter.
I've got two black cats that prowl my hood. I'm real tempted to go borrow a trap from animal control and deal with them.
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I aint no gramer nazi. It wuz jist the way it red. wuz I rite that it wuz a dangling modifier. ?
It was. I was just being a smartass. :)