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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas on December 09, 2010, 02:02:46 AM
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Seems like every picture of combat units I see features gloves. Why?
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Anti-burn gear.
First, in the event of vehicle fires or flash burns from explosions, second, spent shell casings are blister inducing hot, third, things in direct sunlight get really, really, damned hot in the desert. I had a set of lamb skin aviators that were issued to me, and it would still burn my hand if I touched the metal roof of my humvee for more than about 10 seconds. Also anti-chaffing/abrasion/laceration usage as with most all gloves.
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Plus, war is a dirty, nasty, gross buisness where you have to touch dirty, nasty, gross things. Gloves are helpful in protecting you from all the nastiness that goes along with that....
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spent shell casings are blister inducing hot,
Another advantage of the Mosin Nagant; the hulls are plenty cool to catch as they leave the chamber.
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Another advantage of the Mosin Nagant; the hulls are plenty cool to catch as they leave the chamber.
The Nagant is a useless implement of modern battle. The amount of hot casings a modern infantry squad can produce will boggle your mind.
Like KGB and seeker have stated, gloves come in real handy real fast. Non combat vet, but being stationed in the desert you learn it real fast. We wore them for field exercises, at the rifle range, etc. During the summer I carried mine around all the time in case I might need them.
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Another advantage of the Mosin Nagant; the hulls are plenty cool to catch as they leave the chamber.
By the time you get the bolt open, they've had plenty time to cool.
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Eye protection hearing protection and gloves should be basic kit for just about everyone.
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Another advantage of the Mosin Nagant; the hulls are plenty cool to catch as they leave the chamber.
Where does that heat go instead? It heats up the barrel and receiver faster. Not a good thing for rapid fire.
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Another thing is, in the desert it gets cold at night. Real cold, and if your hands poking out of your parka are naked, well, that gets mighty uncomfortable mighty fast.
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Where does that heat go instead? It heats up the barrel and receiver faster. Not a good thing for rapid fire.
Mosin-Nagant and "rapid fire"? Not really an issue.
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Heh, I once shot a 3 gun match with an M-44, because I'm just that badass. ;/ I was pretty good until about halfway through a 30 round course I cut my thumb near to the bone with a stripper clip. I often wear a nomex flight glove on my offhand whne doing something like that or shooting a pump shotgun since reloading involves rolling it over in my support hand with it wrapped into my weakside forearm. 32rd shotgun field course with an 870. HOTTT!!!
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I think you've all forgotten the most important reason...
It looks cool.
=D
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I think you've all forgotten the most important reason...
It looks cool.
=D
Yep. Way more cool than a hand full of splinters from pulling targets on the rifle range. Or sun burned hands from setting up a mobile runway in the desert. Or blistered hands from driving a humvee for 14 hours. Or blistered hands from swinging a sledge for driving engineer stakes. Or scorpion and spider bites from moving sandbags. Or laying out concentina. Or going under barb wire. Or clearing malfunctions on hot weapons.
(All of these are things I've had to do, while not a comprehensive list.) Some of these, I remembered gloves. Others, I didn't have my gloves and paid the price.
But, yeah, you can look more "tactical" with gloves on....
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I always grew my own.
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Nomex gloves were the standard when I deployed to prevent major damage from burns to your hands in the event you get hit by an IED.
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Yep. Way more cool than a hand full of splinters from pulling targets on the rifle range. Or sun burned hands from setting up a mobile runway in the desert. Or blistered hands from driving a humvee for 14 hours. Or blistered hands from swinging a sledge for driving engineer stakes. Or scorpion and spider bites from moving sandbags. Or laying out concentina. Or going under barb wire. Or clearing malfunctions on hot weapons.
(All of these are things I've had to do, while not a comprehensive list.) Some of these, I remembered gloves. Others, I didn't have my gloves and paid the price.
But, yeah, you can look more "tactical" with gloves on....
Where do I sign up? :laugh:
No, just thought I'd stick an extra thanks in there for you guys that have been knee deep in the *expletive deleted*it for the rest of us. ;)
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Well, as wildland firefighters we are always supposed to wear gloves when handling a hose, or digging fireline, etc.... I carry mine in my nomex pants cargo pockets.
I guess it does keep your hands a little cleaner for later eating a slimy bologna and white bread sandwich ;/
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Although I am no longer a paramedic, I still carry a box of purple nitrile gloves in my car in case I have to give first aid to someone. The grandkids really like it when I blow them up as big purple hand balloons.
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big purple hand balloons.
Want! :laugh:
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Mosin-Nagant and "rapid fire"? Not really an issue.
Unless it's a level action with the thing that goes up. Man, that thing's a tack driver!
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They help keep your hands nice and soft for the ladies.
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Don't forget the straitjacket, gotta have one of those for precision rapid fire.
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I remember running chocks & chains in the early days of my Navy career. Gloves were a MUST with that. Not only did they keep ones hands from getting filthy dirty, but also helped avoid getting fingers or other parts of the hands pinched. Same thing during VertRep. I also can't tell you how many times I've run .020" safety wire through a finger or thumb. Gloves help with avoiding that, too.
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Funny, when I was in helos I had ridiculous callouses down the outside of my index fingers, I ran a ton of safetywire by hand, pliers too much damn trouble. A Sikorsky H-3 is of course held together with safetywire, changing all the blades, you better pack a lunch and some extra wire.
Thor, tell the truth. You were an AT weren't you. We give them .020 safetywire and wee little screwdrivers so they don't hurt anything like they might if they had real tools. Hammer? Never. =D
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And yet in Deck department gloves were a big no-no. If one of em got caught on that 5 inch kevlar mooring line you were busy handling you were going through that 8 inch wide steel chock. Everything that might get caught was removed prior to handling lines, gloves, rings, bracelets/watches and anything dangling from your belt.
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And yet in Deck department gloves were a big no-no. If one of em got caught on that 5 inch kevlar mooring line you were busy handling you were going through that 8 inch wide steel chock. Everything that might get caught was removed prior to handling lines, gloves, rings, bracelets/watches and anything dangling from your belt.
Yes, Gloves can be a detriment, mrs 280 and I were doing the woodchipper thing and I repeatedly told her not to wear gloves. Did she listen? ;/
Well, finally, a branch managed to snag the back edge of one of the gloves and start to drag her in there, just for a second but just enough to freak me out. I banned her from the chipper after that. She was all mad about it but I figured it was better than watching her squirt out the other end of the chipper. Besides, in this state nobody'd ever believe me when I told them it was an accident, "Yea, sure it was buddy, you better come with us." :lol:
THEN, one day she takes my short handled 3 lb sledge to pound in some stakes for the volleyball net, and smashes her index finger to where the tip looked like a cherry tomato. Yup, I banned her from hammers too. =D
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. . . woodchipper . . . in this state nobody'd ever believe me when I told them it was an accident . . .
North Dakota?
There were no injuries in the following story:
A friend of mine back when I worked in the woodshop got the fingertip of his glove caught in the bit on a drill press. I had my back to him and heard this "Whoomp! flap flap flap flap flap flap flap. . . ." turn around and he is standing there with no glove on his right hand, which he now has clutched to his chest, and he's white as a ghost! Glove was wrapped tight around the still-spinning bit and chuck, and the wrist was flapping against something. Table vise maybe.
The interesting part of this story is he had syndactyly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syndactyly) (webbed fingers) between his middle finger and ring finger, up to the first knuckle. As a result, he had to cut the crotch between those fingers out of all his gloves. I don't know if that's what saved his hand or not. . .
These were the gloves. you can tell by looking at them that he was VERRRRRY lucky!
(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.solidcactus.com%2Fautobarn%2Flatex-dipped-knit-gloves.jpg&hash=4f686d3b268fba444277c4470a46a8aa4c969396)
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Rags will do that too. never use a rag to wipe a piece of rotating work. Stop the work, then wipe.
Maybe that's not the best way to word that. But it makes sense. :lol:
Rigid 300 "portable" pipe threading machine. Low speed, monstrous torque. It used to come with a forward/reverse switch. A while back they added a foot pedal. Why? Because if you get caught up in the machine the hope is it will pull your foot off the pedal as it sucks you in. How does it suck you in? By grabbing your glove or rag with a burr on the pipe end. ;)
Chances are, if you DO get sucked in, it may stop in time not to kill you but I do believe it will mess you up pretty good before it stops. It takes a second or two to wind down.
Oh, CT. "Divorce CT style" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helle_Crafts
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The Nagant is a useless implement of modern battle. The amount of hot casings a modern infantry squad can produce will boggle your mind.
How many misses does it take to stop an enemy soldier?
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How many misses does it take to stop an enemy soldier?
In actual battle, supressive fire is an actual and useful tool. Do you know why the modern infantry platoon is so effective?
You set up a base of fire. They use supressive fire to pin down the enemy, or at least distract them. Your maneuver element flanks the enemy. Even a modern infantry squad can do this, and do serious damage to a much larger enemy. Even us Airwing folks practiced this during field exercises.
Not easy to do with a bolt action rifle that feeds 5 rounds into the magazine at a time via stripper clip.
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Yes, Gloves can be a detriment, mrs 280 and I were doing the woodchipper thing and I repeatedly told her not to wear gloves. Did she listen? ;/
Well, finally, a branch managed to snag the back edge of one of the gloves and start to drag her in there, just for a second but just enough to freak me out. I banned her from the chipper after that. She was all mad about it but I figured it was better than watching her squirt out the other end of the chipper. Besides, in this state nobody'd ever believe me when I told them it was an accident, "Yea, sure it was buddy, you better come with us." :lol:
THEN, one day she takes my short handled 3 lb sledge to pound in some stakes for the volleyball net, and smashes her index finger to where the tip looked like a cherry tomato. Yup, I banned her from hammers too. =D
A true ban hammer!
Sawdust
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The Nagant is a useless implement of modern battle. The amount of hot casings a modern infantry squad can produce will boggle your mind.
Like KGB and seeker have stated, gloves come in real handy real fast. Non combat vet, but being stationed in the desert you learn it real fast. We wore them for field exercises, at the rifle range, etc. During the summer I carried mine around all the time in case I might need them.
Ohhh, Really?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSCL_-mnN4k
(just kidding)
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Ohhh, Really?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSCL_-mnN4k
(just kidding)
Want!
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for ranch work gloves are like totally necessary, I would imagine combat would like totally be sucky without them.
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for ranch work gloves are like totally necessary, I would imagine combat would like totally be sucky without them.
Uhh...if gloves make having people with guns and bombs trying to kill you not sucky, I really want a pair of those gloves.
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Uhh...if gloves make having people with guns and bombs trying to kill you not sucky, I really want a pair of those gloves.
=D =D :P
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Uhh...if gloves make having people with guns and bombs trying to kill you not sucky, I really want a pair of those gloves.
that's the tactical kevlar and titanium gantlets.
there:
power +100
defense +250
cool +1000
and no you can't buy a set. :P
:laugh:
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that's the tactical kevlar and titanium gantlets.
there:
power +100
defense +250
cool +1000
and no you can't buy a set. :P
:laugh:
Can I buy a vowel?
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lol, always used to shorten it to gaunt, now you know why. :laugh:
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that's the tactical kevlar and titanium gantlets.
there:
power +100
defense +250
cool +1000
and no you can't buy a set. :P
I needed those on election day when the feral cat here tried to chew my hand off at the wrist. ... ( it still hurts )
:laugh:
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The best part of STT is "Dizzy" in the tent. Just sayin..... =D
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The best part of STT is "Dizzy" in the tent. Just sayin..... =D
I liked the way she "wore" that shirt. . .
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