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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: AZRedhawk44 on January 14, 2011, 12:20:47 PM
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http://www.elpasotimes.com/ci_17087113?source=most_viewed
That's 1 of 2 possible things:
1. An act of War.
2. An act of International Terrorism.
I don't care which you call it.
I want some bloodthirsty, rampaging Devil Dogs down there YESTERDAY.
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really you got all this
That's 1 of 2 possible things:
1. An act of War.
2. An act of International Terrorism.
from that article? amazing
were we just talking about the msm jumping too fast on the arizona shooting?
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Thees can notta happen.
They have el gun control, no?
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I'd settle for them rolling a few pieces of armor out of Ft Irwin to do some "patrolling."
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I'd settle for them rolling a few pieces of armor out of Ft Irwin to do some "patrolling."
What and send some 120mm rounds back across the border?
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What and send some 120mm rounds back across the border?
High velocity lend-lease.
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http://www.elpasotimes.com/ci_17087113?source=most_viewed
That's 1 of 2 possible things:
1. An act of War.
2. An act of International Terrorism.
I don't care which you call it.
I want some bloodthirsty, rampaging Devil Dogs down there YESTERDAY.
You should lead the charge whilst yelling, " 'MMMURIKA STRROOONNNNGG!" :D
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So, someone - who may or may not be a Mexican - fires a gun in the general direction of Americans (according to the article, they 'heard shots' and are 'so far assuming' the sole bullet they recovered came from Mexico), and we want to declare war?
Is this the standard for war now?
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i don't believe they actually found any bullets in this case yet still looking
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So, someone - who may or may not be a Mexican - fires a gun in the general direction of Americans (according to the article, they 'heard shots' and are 'so far assuming' the sole bullet they recovered came from Mexico), and we want to declare war?
Is this the standard for war now?
No, war will be justified when we find a dead Mexican in a Mexican Army uniform outside an El Paso radio station.
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So, someone - who may or may not be a Mexican - fires a gun in the general direction of Americans (according to the article, they 'heard shots' and are 'so far assuming' the sole bullet they recovered came from Mexico), and we want to declare war?
Is this the standard for war now?
Stranger things have incited war. Like the SpAm War. Trojan War. And so on...
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So, someone - who may or may not be a Mexican - fires a gun in the general direction of Americans (according to the article, they 'heard shots' and are 'so far assuming' the sole bullet they recovered came from Mexico), and we want to declare war?
Is this the standard for war now?
Maybe not a war.....but definitely a punitive expedition.... :cool:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancho_Villa_Expedition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancho_Villa_Expedition)
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Sooner or late someone IS going to unleash a volley from the Mexican side.
And some American is going to be on the receiving end, get out of his truck, drag a rifle out, and shoot back.
And the media will crucify him.
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And the media will crucify him.
Only if he gets caught.
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Funny, when that Border Patrol agent shot that 14 year old kid dead as a stone(pun intended) for throwing a rock at him, I don't remember hearing the mexican side clamoring for military action or expeditions.
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I don't remember hearing the mexican side clamoring for military action or expeditions.
You don't tug on superman's cape ;)
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You don't tug on superman's cape ;)
...or pee on the neighbor's Doberman.....
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You don't tug on superman's cape
I think Black Adam may be more apropos.
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Maybe not a war.....but definitely a punitive expedition.... :cool:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancho_Villa_Expedition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancho_Villa_Expedition)
Yes. That was a retalition to a town burned down to the ground. That's not equivalent to 'hey some guys heard gunfire south of the border'.
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Yes. That was a retalition to a town burned down to the ground. That's not equivalent to 'hey some guys heard gunfire south of the border'.
...however, there's been plenty of Mexican violence bleeding over on the US side of the border to warrant it....
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Yeah, those people who went jet-skiing on falcon lake experienced drug pirate violence first hand.
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taking a jet ski trip across the border? might have consequences, would that be an invasion if it was folks coming the other way?
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Yes. That was a retalition to a town burned down to the ground. That's not equivalent to 'hey some guys heard gunfire south of the border'.
But you have to consider how successful it was - I mean, just imagine how bad things would be if we hadn't done that.... =|
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But you have to consider how successful it was - I mean, just imagine how bad things would be if we hadn't done that.... =|
It founded on a lack of expansive vision. The previous expedition to Mexico was quite the success.
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taking a jet ski trip across the border? might have consequences, would that be an invasion if it was folks coming the other way?
Exactly my point. :)
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taking a jet ski trip across the border? might have consequences, would that be an invasion if it was folks coming the other way?
You guys need a class in critical thinking (and reading)... =|
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/10/12/mexican-police-official-investigating-border-lake-shooting-dead/
1. American recreational jetskiiers, no matter how dumb it might be to use a lake on the US/MX border, have a right to use AT LEAST the American portion of the waters without being shot at. Dumb is dumb, but right is right.
2. Those same jetskiiers have no right to illegally enter MX.
3. If they enter MX and are interdicted by MX Federales or other MX LEOs, they ought to be treated in a way that respects their inherent right to continue breathing and to resolve any conflict via MX/US legal proceedings.
4. If MX pirates or drug smugglers take them, then the effing US Marines need to resolve it RFN if the MX forces refuse to or are impotent to do so.
Conversely:
1. American road workers have a right to not be shot at while building roads.
2. If they are shot at from MX, then MX LEO/Federales should find the gunman.
3. If MX LEO/Feds cannot resolve it, time for some Marines.
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the american jetskiers were big on living on the edge they knew the ruins they were "adventuring " at were in mexico and dangerous. consequences rights and responsibility
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So conversely, Any Mexican jetskiers that come one our side are just "living on the edge", and you're OK with gunning them down? (They WERE living adventurously and asking for it!)
:facepalm:
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the american jetskiers were big on living on the edge they knew the ruins they were "adventuring " at were in mexico and dangerous. consequences rights and responsibility
And this means we should blithely tolerate drug cartels murdering our citizens how?
I've noticed you continually point out how a few rifle shots across the border or some jet skiers who obviously were asking for trouble (to paraphrase you) are no cause for military intervention. Well then what about these then: The territory on OUR side of the border that we've had to cede due to our citizens being murdered there by foreign nationals or the current Mexican government that all but officially supports illegal immigration into our country, and has gladly sent us 20 million of their citizens? Does that meet your qualifications for casus belli?
You know, there's a military term for when another country's people flood into yours against your country's will and you lose territory through acts of violence. It's called a *expletive deleted*ing foreign invasion! And that most certainly qualifies for military intervention, if only to halt the influx of bodies.
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is it still an invasion when you post ads on the other side of the border advertising jobs? and pay em when they show up to work?
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is it still an invasion when you post ads on the other side of the border advertising jobs? and pay em when they show up to work?
No, it's a crime, and should be dealt with accordingly.
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the american jetskiers were big on living on the edge they knew the ruins they were "adventuring " at were in mexico and dangerous. consequences rights and responsibility
I guess the same goes for the US paramilitary groups that act out beyond the limits set by the Minutemen... SSS on the border appears to be OK by your logic, C&SD.
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I guess the same goes for the US paramilitary groups that act out beyond the limits set by the Minutemen... SSS on the border appears to be OK by your logic, C&SD.
reach much? or just not comfy with addressing the idea of consequences rights and responsibility
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SSS on the border appears to be OK by your logic, C&SD.
I'm more of a "buzzards gotta eat same as worms" train of thought...
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Re: US-Mexico Border. Marines. RFN!
« Reply #27 on: January 18, 2011, 01:49:36 PM »
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So conversely, Any Mexican jetskiers that come one our side are just "living on the edge", and you're OK with gunning them down? (They WERE living adventurously and asking for it!)
Face Palm!
Kinda like the kids who were living on the edge by throwing rocks at Border Patrol, eh?
I believe the comment earlier in the thread was "You don't tug on Superman's cape."
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Actually, I'm kind of surprised at our current lack of any taste for military adventurism against Mexico.
I guess it hasn't occurred to OBOTUS and the DNC yet that annexation will add new voters and welfare recipients faster than illegal immigration would.
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It's a crime, not an act of war. Treat it accordingly.