Post by: El Tejon on March 24, 2006, 11:18:58 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20060323/sc_space/sleepdeprivationthegreatamericanmyth
Post by: Azrael256 on March 24, 2006, 11:47:19 AM
I can unequivocally state that I am sleep deprived on a regular basis, but I'm a college student, so it's no surprise. 4 hours a night 5 days a week is kinda hard on the ol' brain. When I'm on vacation, however, I do this novel thing called sleeping when I'm tired, and being active when I'm not. I usually end up sleeping 6 hours a night, on the dot, by just listening to what my brain is telling me.
Post by: jefnvk on March 24, 2006, 11:56:19 AM
6-7.5 is what I try for.
Post by: Fly320s on March 24, 2006, 12:25:49 PM
I'll try to find it. It may have been in one of my wife's Prevention magazines.
Post by: Guest on March 24, 2006, 12:38:48 PM
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People who get only 6 to 7 hours a night have a lower death rate than those who get 8 hours of sleep. From a six-year study of more than a million adults
I really hate yahoo news because they take what is obviously an elaborate study with equally elaborate results and dumb it down into something that doesnt even make sense. Death rate? What kinds of illness, over what amount of time, how does it break down to age group and gender? There is so much information missing from this that its hard to arrive at any conclusions. Over a long enough period of time the death rate for evryone is %100, the statement doesnt suggest that people who sleep less live longer or are more productive, just that fewer of them died than people who got more sleep. That could mean damn near anything. Maybe people who slept more had more active lifestyles which resulted in more fatal accidents. Maybe the low-sleepers spent their whole say starting at a blank screen because they were too tired to do anything else. This is one of those things that can be interpreted to mean anything you want it to.And then there is this little gem
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"There is really no evidence that the average 8-hour sleeper functions better than the average 6- or 7-hour sleeper," Kripke says, on the basis of his ongoing psychiatric practice with patients along with research, including the large study of a million adults (called the Cancer Prevention Study II).
And he suspects that people who sleep less than average make more money and are more successful.
This guy is supposed to be a researcher and in one fell swoop he uses an absence of evidence as evidence and goes on to relay a suspicion, a suspician that should have been *easily* established by the research he conducted, and yet apparently wanst established enough that he can actually make a claim about it. Which leads one to conclude that his "research" fell pretty far short of comprehensive.
And he suspects that people who sleep less than average make more money and are more successful.
Post by: Standing Wolf on March 24, 2006, 03:59:28 PM
Post by: yesterdaysyouth on March 24, 2006, 04:17:06 PM
Post by: Sylvilagus Aquaticus on March 24, 2006, 04:52:41 PM
No flies on that old man...well, there might be now.
Regards,
Rabbit.
Post by: Phantom Warrior on March 25, 2006, 03:51:46 AM
Post by: ...has left the building. on March 25, 2006, 07:32:03 AM
Post by: O.F.Fascist on March 25, 2006, 10:24:19 AM
These days if I dont get 7 or 8 though I'm usually way sleepy in the morning, and at night I get sleepy earlier.
Post by: Justin on March 25, 2006, 12:47:21 PM
Post by: gunsmith on March 25, 2006, 01:51:36 PM
Post by: brimic on March 25, 2006, 08:30:19 PM
Post by: Spec ops Grunt on March 25, 2006, 08:36:33 PM
Post by: gunsmith on March 25, 2006, 09:45:42 PM
I've woken my self up by my loud snoring and my last
girlfriend would kick me at 3 am for it.
I do not have med insurance right now so I can't have myself checked.
am I a typical gun nut or what? I have an AR15 with all the bells and whistles that set me back over
two grand, an M1A that cost me close to two grand with some of the bells and whistles
a stack on filled with ammo and other guns...but no medical insurance. and only next months rent in the bank
Post by: zahc on March 25, 2006, 10:44:39 PM
Post by: brimic on March 25, 2006, 11:31:51 PM
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brimic. what are the symptoms of sleep apnea? is it snoring?
I've woken my self up by my loud snoring and my last
girlfriend would kick me at 3 am for it.
http://armedpolitesociety.com/viewtopic.php?id=1137I've woken my self up by my loud snoring and my last
girlfriend would kick me at 3 am for it.
If you do a search, there is a huge thread on APS about sleep apnea.
Basicly it amounts to a person's breathing stopping many times per hour due to blockage of the airway. Snoring is a symptom, being tired or lacking energy during the waking hours is a symptom, and having a partner noticing you stopping breathing or gasping for air while sleeping is a major tip off.
Post by: K Frame on March 26, 2006, 03:24:49 AM
Post by: BozemanMT on March 26, 2006, 03:43:34 AM
My wife needs a lot of sleep, I tend to get up and surt on weekends for a couple hours before she gets up. (when she's happy, i'm happy). which explains what I'm doing here at 6am on a sunday. :-)
Post by: Guest on March 26, 2006, 05:13:37 AM
Post by: SalukiFan on March 26, 2006, 03:37:53 PM
I'm also a little confused by one of the lines in the article:
Sleep problems are commonly reported in the elderly, but the increase in spending on sleeping pills was highest in this period for 10-19 year olds, possibly due to an association with medication for attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD).
So what association would that be? Anyone want to fill me in?
- SalukiFan
Post by: Azrael256 on March 26, 2006, 03:56:57 PM
Post by: Guest on March 26, 2006, 05:54:15 PM
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Sleep problems are commonly reported in the elderly, but the increase in spending on sleeping pills was highest in this period for 10-19 year olds, possibly due to an association with medication for attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD).
Im going way out on a limb here but there is a paradoxal (sp) effect with Ritalin, and other ADHD treatments. For kids with ADHD they can have a mellowing/focusing effect, for teens and adults this can result in the opposite, which would perhaps cause them to start taking sleeping pills. Personally, I am of the opinion that if ADHD medication is having such an effect on a person then that person should not be on the medication, but today's medical community is still in the habit of "stacking" medications, rather than reevaluating them.