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Title: Here we go! WI Conference committee!
Post by: AJ Dual on March 09, 2011, 07:24:26 PM
They're stripping out all the non-fiscal portions that don't require a quorum, and the Democrats are screaming bloody murder. (Their screaming on the live feed is... music to my ears... [:P] )

And since it's the non-fiscal stuff that had the Democrats run out of state at the bidding of their union puppet-masters, they're possibly returning since there's no more point in quorum breaking.
Title: Re: Here we go! WI Conference committee!
Post by: Monkeyleg on March 09, 2011, 07:38:26 PM
Which bill?
Title: Re: Here we go! WI Conference committee!
Post by: bedlamite on March 09, 2011, 07:54:58 PM
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704629104576191003890014010.html (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704629104576191003890014010.html)
Title: Re: Here we go! WI Conference committee!
Post by: stevelyn on March 09, 2011, 07:59:38 PM
I thought I could hear a high-pitched whine coming from a southeasterly direction.  =D
Title: Re: Here we go! WI Conference committee!
Post by: Regolith on March 09, 2011, 08:57:45 PM
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704629104576191003890014010.html (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704629104576191003890014010.html)


There's an epic rant (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704629104576191003890014010.html#articleTabs%3Dcomments%26commentId%3D2192369) on page 5 of the comments section for that article.
Title: Re: Here we go! WI Conference committee!
Post by: bedlamite on March 09, 2011, 09:06:38 PM
http://legis.wisconsin.gov/lfb/2011-13%20Budget/2011_03_09%20Modification%20to%20SS%20SB%2011_AB%2011.pdf (http://legis.wisconsin.gov/lfb/2011-13%20Budget/2011_03_09%20Modification%20to%20SS%20SB%2011_AB%2011.pdf)
Title: Re: Here we go! WI Conference committee!
Post by: Headless Thompson Gunner on March 09, 2011, 11:02:19 PM
Cool!

But did they know about this option from the start?
Title: Re: Here we go! WI Conference committee!
Post by: AJ Dual on March 09, 2011, 11:48:58 PM
Cool!

But did they know about this option from the start?

Presumably.

IMO, it's mainly a matter of "being the grownups" that they waited as long as they did.

Title: Re: Here we go! WI Conference committee!
Post by: charby on March 09, 2011, 11:51:44 PM
That Marilyn chick is a 1st class 'tard.
Title: Re: Here we go! WI Conference committee!
Post by: Headless Thompson Gunner on March 10, 2011, 12:48:03 PM
Presumably.

IMO, it's mainly a matter of "being the grownups" that they waited as long as they did.


I guess that's my question, what's up with the timing?

If their absence makes the Dems look bad and strengthens our side's position, then no sense in pushing this through now.  Milk it for all its worth.

If the protests and delays and media spin are playing into the Dems hands, then they shoulda passed this bill on day 1 and bypassed all of this crap.

It makes me wonder why they held off initially, then suddenly changed tactics right now.  What happened to prompt the switch?
Title: Re: Here we go! WI Conference committee!
Post by: makattak on March 10, 2011, 12:49:35 PM
I guess that's my question, what's up with the timing?

If their absence makes the Dems look bad and strengthens our side's position, then no sense in pushing this through now.  Milk it for all its worth.

If the protests and delays and media spin are playing into the Dems hands, then they shoulda passed this bill on day 1 and bypassed all of this crap.

It makes me wonder why they held off initially, then suddenly changed tactics right now.  What happened to prompt the switch?

I'm betting Republican senators getting wobbly. There was already one defection.
Title: Re: Here we go! WI Conference committee!
Post by: Headless Thompson Gunner on March 10, 2011, 12:58:04 PM
I wonder.  Recent media reports have been depicting the Repubs on shaky ground, saying that the public is supporting the unions moreso than the Gov and the Rep senators.  It's easy to discount such reports in the media, given the source, but now I wonder if there might actually have been some truth to it.  

Did the Repubs see the writing on the wall and conclude that they were losing this fight?  If so, that doesn't bode well. 

If the public can't see that the public unions are a major problem these days, and doesn't have the stomach to back politcritters who take on the public unions, then we're in a bigger mess than I thought.
Title: Re: Here we go! WI Conference committee!
Post by: brimic on March 10, 2011, 01:04:47 PM
found this on anoother site. Must be the nutty Tea Party ;/

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F03%2Fdeath-threat.jpg&hash=6fccf2c671c1d5861fbb7c7c635e9bda48f35cf6)
Title: Re: Here we go! WI Conference committee!
Post by: charby on March 10, 2011, 03:10:25 PM
So I'm watching the live feed of the protest, Rev Jesse Jackson is chatting "Show me what democracy looks like" and the crowd is responding "this is what democray looks like"

I just want to get a bigger bull horn and scream "Its a representative republic"

Title: Re: Here we go! WI Conference committee!
Post by: Balog on March 10, 2011, 03:23:26 PM
Good for Wisconsin. Now ram through Vermont carry, school vouchers, and every other damn thing they can before the 14 traitors get back.
Title: Re: Here we go! WI Conference committee!
Post by: makattak on March 10, 2011, 03:38:49 PM
Good for Wisconsin. Now ram through Vermont carry, school vouchers, and every other damn thing they can before the 14 traitors get back.

Remember the bills still have to pass the house.

I'd settle for school vouchers, but given that it's still Wisconsin, I'll bet that's a stretch.
Title: Re: Here we go! WI Conference committee!
Post by: Balog on March 10, 2011, 03:42:09 PM
Don't they have a majority in both houses?
Title: Re: Here we go! WI Conference committee!
Post by: makattak on March 10, 2011, 03:45:06 PM
Don't they have a majority in both houses?

I believe it's 57-37 in the house, in favor of Republicans. I'm not certain on the number of squishy Republicans in the house, though.
Title: Re: Here we go! WI Conference committee!
Post by: Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas on March 10, 2011, 03:54:54 PM
found this on anoother site. Must be the nutty Tea Party ;/

http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/death-threat.jpg
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Subject: Atten: Death threat!!!! Bomb!!!!
:laugh:
I keep looking at the subject line and laughing hysterically. I don't know why.

And somehow, i know that this person sent it from their work email address.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Here we go! WI Conference committee!
Post by: brimic on March 10, 2011, 04:15:33 PM
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Good for Wisconsin. Now ram through Vermont carry, school vouchers, and every other damn thing they can before the 14 traitors get back.

I want TABOR. We replaced our rino senator (Mary Panzer) with a very staunch conservative (Glen Grothman) a 1/2 dozen years back because she wouldn't bring TABOR up for a vote when it would have passed. Vermont carry would be awesome, but I want to keep protect from theft some of my money first so that I could afford to buy a new piece and some blasting ammo. I'm tired of my property taxes going up by leaps and bounds every year- it was $2800 10 years ago, my last tax bill was a shade under $4800.
Title: Re: Here we go! WI Conference committee!
Post by: Angel Eyes on March 10, 2011, 04:31:13 PM
And somehow, i know that this person sent it from their work email address.  :laugh:

I'm not convinced the perp has a job.
Title: Re: Here we go! WI Conference committee!
Post by: AJ Dual on March 10, 2011, 05:39:46 PM
It passed the Assembly just a few minutes after 4:00pm CST.  =D
Title: Re: Here we go! WI Conference committee!
Post by: RaspberrySurprise on March 10, 2011, 07:47:13 PM
So I'm watching the live feed of the protest, Rev Jesse Jackson is chatting "Show me what democracy looks like" and the crowd is responding "this is what democray looks like"

I just want to get a bigger bull horn and scream "Its a representative republic"



I want to bang my head into a wall every time someone says our country is a democracy.
Title: Re: Here we go! WI Conference committee!
Post by: Northwoods on March 13, 2011, 02:18:37 PM
I want TABOR. We replaced our rino senator (Mary Panzer) with a very staunch conservative (Glen Grothman) a 1/2 dozen years back because she wouldn't bring TABOR up for a vote when it would have passed. Vermont carry would be awesome, but I want to keep protect from theft some of my money first so that I could afford to buy a new piece and some blasting ammo. I'm tired of my property taxes going up by leaps and bounds every year- it was $2800 10 years ago, my last tax bill was a shade under $4800.

TABOR??

Anyway, that rate of increase isn't much off from overall inflation.  It works out to ~5.4% annually.  At a normal 4% inflation you'd only be $600 cheaper.