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Title: Got a GSG 1911
Post by: Matthew Carberry on April 07, 2011, 01:44:29 PM
Once I see how it does at the range I'll likely be getting rid of the Rugers.

And getting a can.
Title: Re: Got a GSG 1911
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 07, 2011, 02:09:52 PM
So it's a .22 1911? What kind of price do those go for?
Title: Re: Got a GSG 1911
Post by: Matthew Carberry on April 07, 2011, 02:11:51 PM
$350 down from $369.

Cost to my dealer was $320-something.

Mags are spendy.
Title: Re: Got a GSG 1911
Post by: lee n. field on April 07, 2011, 02:36:01 PM
Once I see how it does at the range I'll likely be getting rid of the Rugers.

And getting a can.

Dibs!

Let us know on the GSG, of course, but I'm happy with my Mk II for .22-ish purposes.
Title: Re: Got a GSG 1911
Post by: 230RN on April 07, 2011, 02:43:44 PM
My son got one of them and he's real happy with it.
Title: Re: Got a GSG 1911
Post by: Matthew Carberry on April 07, 2011, 03:09:25 PM
I have a mk I Target Ruger and a mk II 22/45 4" I bought as a training type .22.

I'm whittling down to "1911-ish pattern only" and the GSG will replace the 22/45.

Same leather and manual of arms, weight and feel as my Colts.
Title: Re: Got a GSG 1911
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 07, 2011, 03:41:29 PM
Bu
I have a mk I Target Ruger and a mk II 22/45 4" I bought as a training type .22.

I'm whittling down to "1911-ish pattern only" and the GSG will replace the 22/45.

Same leather and manual of arms, weight and feel as my Colts.

But - but they're outdated and obsolete!
Title: Re: Got a GSG 1911
Post by: Matthew Carberry on April 07, 2011, 07:44:40 PM
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But - but they're outdated and obsolete!

I'm 40, another decade or so and women with C&R licenses can have me delivered straight to their door.
Title: Re: Got a GSG 1911
Post by: MillCreek on April 07, 2011, 08:27:37 PM
I'm 40, another decade or so and women with C&R licenses can have me delivered straight to their door.

You mean that can be happening for me now at 51?  Where do I go to sign up for this service!
Title: Re: Got a GSG 1911
Post by: Matthew Carberry on April 07, 2011, 08:29:30 PM
You mean that can be happening for me now at 51?  Where do I go to sign up for this service!

Your body first has to be declared a deadly, yet curious, relic of a weapon by the .gov.  It's a 4 page form.
Title: Re: Got a GSG 1911
Post by: Pharmacology on April 07, 2011, 11:23:30 PM
I think my favorite "accessory" for my 1911 is the kimber .22 conversion slide that I picked up for about $200 back when THR was good.
Title: Re: Got a GSG 1911
Post by: Boomhauer on April 08, 2011, 12:01:22 AM
I picked up a GSG 1911, too.

The mags are better designed than the Rugers (they have an internal feed ramp that keeps the rounds feeding smoothly without jamming into the feedramp like my 22/45 does sometimes).

Easier to disassemble. Feels better in the hand, mags drop free without hesitation and feel like real mags. Accepts an adapter for a suppressor readily.

I'm not getting rid of my 22/45 by any means, and I don't suggest that you do, but I can tell you, that much like my 10/22, the 22/45 is getting mothballed.
Title: Re: Got a GSG 1911
Post by: Perd Hapley on May 21, 2011, 04:55:54 PM
Join the club I have. I only found one shop near St. Louis that had them. Some shops had them on order, some couldn't find them, and some had never heard of them.

Range report will be forth-coming.

Due to budgetary constraints, and my wife's short fingers, it has replaced my only other handgun. This means it will be a car gun, and possibly a carry gun, if we get our CCW paperwork together.

My thanks to Matt for his recommendation and advice.
Title: Re: Got a GSG 1911
Post by: Matthew Carberry on May 21, 2011, 06:02:11 PM
Congrats!

Wring it out at the range good, and remember the fat end of the spring goes forward when reassembling. =)
Title: Re: Got a GSG 1911
Post by: Perd Hapley on May 21, 2011, 07:05:19 PM
You may not be as accurate as the gun, but you should at least be smarter than the gun.  :P
Title: Re: Got a GSG 1911
Post by: Perd Hapley on May 22, 2011, 06:42:14 PM
Apparently, the design of the guide rod was changed from a round cross-section to a cruciform type, which my gun has. There seem to be reports popping up everywhere, about the newer guide rods catching on the plug. When this happens, the bushing rotates, then the guide rod breaks.

The fellow in the below thread is talking about having some steel rods made.

http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=316604

I haven't fired mine yet, but it does seem to have a lip where the round section in the front transitions to the cruciform shape.
Title: Re: Got a GSG 1911
Post by: lee n. field on May 22, 2011, 08:05:27 PM
Molded plastic guide rod?
Title: Re: Got a GSG 1911
Post by: Perd Hapley on May 22, 2011, 11:05:25 PM
Molded plastic guide rod?

It looks like plastic, but I'm pretty sure it's some lightweight alloy, probably MIM. I guess it could be steel, but I haven't magnet-tested it yet.
Title: Re: Got a GSG 1911
Post by: Matthew Carberry on May 23, 2011, 03:35:50 AM
 The rest of the gun is zinc alloy.  ???

The rod seems a bit shorter than it absolutely needs to be to allow for disassembly.  Hopefully, if someone is looking to make a steel one they look at that too.  It seems like it is just shy of the bushing with no good reason to be, functionwise. 
Title: Re: Got a GSG 1911
Post by: roo_ster on May 23, 2011, 01:30:37 PM
I look forward to reports, as I am interested.
Title: Re: Got a GSG 1911
Post by: Boomhauer on May 23, 2011, 01:34:46 PM
The rest of the gun is zinc alloy.  ???

The rod seems a bit shorter than it absolutely needs to be to allow for disassembly.  Hopefully, if someone is looking to make a steel one they look at that too.  It seems like it is just shy of the bushing with no good reason to be, functionwise. 

Huh? The GSG is aluminum slide, steel frame, per my understanding.

Don't confuse the GSG-1911-22 with the POS, zinc Chiappa 1911-22.




Title: Re: Got a GSG 1911
Post by: Matthew Carberry on May 23, 2011, 01:47:45 PM
For the record, the round rod on mine works just fine.

tafkafistful,  =D

Could you post a pic of the cruciform guide rod?


Title: Re: Got a GSG 1911
Post by: Matthew Carberry on May 23, 2011, 02:00:33 PM
Huh? The GSG is aluminum slide, steel frame, per my understanding.

Don't confuse the GSG-1911-22 with the POS, zinc Chiappa 1911-22.






I don't think the frame is steel.

I could buy aluminum now that you say it, it looked like the "in the white" portion of my LW Commander where I used hand files to undercut the trigger guard.  Although Birchwood Casey gunblue (the paste kind in the plastic tube) did work on it and I think that wouldn't blue aluminum?

Maybe I'm just a better filer than I knew, so steel cuts like buttah?

Never filed a MIM part but the thumb safety I think is steel based on how it looked in the white, I had to take it down in width a bit.

I guess the thing to draw from my experience is you can 'smith the gun, just like a 1911.
Title: Re: Got a GSG 1911
Post by: Matthew Carberry on May 23, 2011, 02:34:01 PM
You can see the undercut and the bevel I put on the safety.  It was one of those squared off shelf hi-ride ones, I'll probably replace it when I buy the new ambi for my "real" 1911 and put on a flat mainspring housing at the same time so it matches my other two 1911 pattern guns.  Those are thin grips on it.

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Title: Re: Got a GSG 1911
Post by: Matthew Carberry on May 23, 2011, 02:36:32 PM
Oh, here's a family portrait, minus the Mustang cause he's too little.

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Title: Re: Got a GSG 1911
Post by: Perd Hapley on May 24, 2011, 12:28:26 AM
You can see the undercut and the bevel I put on the safety.  It was one of those squared off shelf hi-ride ones, I'll probably replace it when I buy the new ambi for my "real" 1911 and put on a flat mainspring housing at the same time so it matches my other two 1911 pattern guns.  Those are thin grips on it.

Will you let us know what type/brand of mainspring housing you go with? I'm thinking I'll want one as well. Good looking guns, by the way.

I can't find any pictures of the guide rod on the tubes, so I'll have to take a picture for you.
Title: Re: Got a GSG 1911
Post by: Matthew Carberry on May 24, 2011, 02:21:06 AM
Will you let us know what type/brand of mainspring housing you go with? I'm thinking I'll want one as well. Good looking guns, by the way.

I can't find any pictures of the guide rod on the tubes, so I'll have to take a picture for you.

I will be using the cheapest part I can find.  Probably a Colt branded part from Midway or Brownells.
Title: Re: Got a GSG 1911
Post by: Perd Hapley on May 24, 2011, 10:31:27 AM
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Supposedly, the problem is with the transition from the rounded portion near the tip, to the x-cross-section part of the rod.
Title: Re: Got a GSG 1911
Post by: Matthew Carberry on May 24, 2011, 12:00:38 PM
That can't be worth machining that way. They must be welding the round on the end.

I'd bet some are either misaligned or the transition wasn't taken down smoothly enough.

I'd probably hand cycle to figure out the wear points and then polish them up if I didn't just send the part back.
Title: Re: Got a GSG 1911
Post by: Perd Hapley on May 28, 2011, 07:00:28 PM
Grrrr! Yup, the bushing moved on me, and jammed up the weapon. I'll be calling them.

But it did feed pretty reliably until that happened.